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And the best single of the 21st century thus far is...

 
  

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Jackie Susann
22:39 / 25.08.06
Oh man, I keep wanting to defect to other people's choices!

And yeah, Jackie is fine - I would feel like I was in Rumblefish if people kept calling me Jackie Susann every time they spoke to me.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
13:22 / 26.08.06
gleaming, cold, David Cronenberg sensuality.

Quickly, off the topic, those words push a naughty button in my head.

Back on topic, I elect "Murder on the Dancefloor" by Sophie Bextor-Ellis. Provided it makes the time constraints.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
15:55 / 26.08.06
Gosh I hate that song; it seems so flat and lifeless, going through the motions as if bored.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
16:07 / 26.08.06
I really like it. Of course, I decided that when I was really drunk at a gay bar.

Nope, nope, I still like it.
 
 
Jackie Susann
22:25 / 26.08.06
New criterion! You can only nominate a song if you decided they were best when really drunk at a gay bar. Possibly if you are gay, you can substitute straight bar. Bisexuals, I don't know what we are going to do, but maybe we can just go with sleazy bars. By this logic I am changing my pick to Kelly Clarkson's Since U Been Gone.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
22:44 / 26.08.06
I saw a cabaret lady performing "That Don't Impress Me Much" in sign language at Duckie and it was the first time I'd ever encountered (not "heard", really) the song. I know it doesn't fit... just an ... anecdote.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
22:52 / 26.08.06
Oh I was really drunk. Really ill afterwards. On Sea Breezes.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
14:29 / 28.08.06
Another song I decided was really good at the gay bar: "Just Walk Away", Kelly Clarkson. Just the right amount of sass to strengthen you after you've had a couple of Mary-tinis.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
14:41 / 28.08.06
The best little gay bar in Atlanta is where I find my drunken pop music gems.

This place is really ace.
 
 
Jackie Susann
21:52 / 28.08.06
I don't know what it is about Kelly Clarkson that makes her sound so great when you're really drunk in gay bars (forgive the tautology), but I should really cop her CD. Does she have more than one? Which one should I get?
 
 
The Falcon
21:57 / 28.08.06
'Breakaway' has all the hits: the title track, Since U Been Gone, Miss Independent (Live), Walk Away. I think track 6 - Addicted - is really awesome in that same kinda vein, too.

I wish I was 15.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
14:14 / 29.08.06
For a while I've tried to figure out how certain types of songs sound better in different environments and how that carries over when you're not in that particular environment.

Some things sound better in a gay bar. I dunno why.
 
 
Dxncxn
11:59 / 30.08.06
A disclaimer: I don’t like most of what I write about why I like songs. It doesn’t do them justice. Architecture about dancing, and so on. But I do understand why lists are pointless. So, with apologies to the records in question, I am (today) unable to choose between:

Destiny’s Child: “Lose My Breath”
It’s just an all-out assault, from the “Hit me!” at the start, right through to the last seconds. No space here for Michelle to interject a couple of lines about God or about Doing The Right Thing. And no, ‘You’re no match for me’ is hardly new lyrical territory for the genre or DC themselves, but it’s just flawlessly done. The bit (at 1:30, if we’re being all Ian MacDonald about it) when the “Funky Drummer” break (or something very like it) joins the rest of the drum track like the most natural thing in the world. The melody on the last line of each verse (“Grabbed you Grind you Liked you Tried you/Moved so fast baby now I can’t find you” being the first) where there’s no passing notes, just these fantastic, aggressive leaps up & down. The fact that, drums aside, the whole of the backing track consists of just three notes (two high string-ish hits and one droney lower one).

Girls Aloud: “The Show”
Lyrics about the value of not rushing into sex (except for, you know, the bits that aren’t). That splendidly sarcastic intro/outro. That keyboard noise - the first thing you hear - which is so crunchily textured that you can feel it as much as hear it. The ‘here it comes!’ reverse-echo thingy on the vocal before the second “That special something...” bit. The not-in-Kansas-anymore structure, and the fact that it’s quietly and absolutely in service of the song, rather than making an issue of itself. If only the band themselves weren’t so off-puttingly homely...

Radiohead: “Pyramid Song”
Not a song I’d’ve chosen to like, if that was the way things worked. I find Radiohead tiresome, for all the obvious reasons (although I recognise that at least some of them have more to do with the NME and my friends and my issues than they have with Radiohead themselves). And so it took me about two years to realise or admit just how much I do like this. It feels like it’s in some weird time signature although I’m not sure that it actually is: it’s kind of slippery, like you have to watch your footing in case it disappears underneath you. I particularly like the way “There was nothing to fear, nothing to doubt” comes out like it’s the saddest thing in the world. And, hey, you can’t trust anyone who doesn’t like any embarrassing records, can you?*

Brandy: “What About Us”
It’s weird and it’s catchy. It may not sound like a big deal, but that pretty much sums it up. Growing up in the late eighties I remember thinking that mainstream pop music seemed to have given up on sounding like nothing-you’d-ever-heard-before, and wishing that it hadn’t. The best bits of the last seven or eight years of US R’n’B have felt, then, like something I’ve been waiting for for as long as I can remember: it’s weird and it’s catchy. And none more so than this. Again, it’s rhythmically treacherous - like there’s two entirely different things going on at once, or like it’s a zombie dragging one of its feet behind it**. And there’s all sorts of time-stretched, backwards, apparently malfunctioning noises going on. And it got to number four.

and Mariah Carey: “We Belong Together”
...which I’ve already said more than enough about here.


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* Something I do believe, actually, although now’s probably not the time.
** Not my line, sadly, although I can’t recall who I pinched it from.
 
 
Dxncxn
16:37 / 30.08.06
[Having just re-read all that, I feel that the last sentence of the Girls Aloud bit really doesn’t look all that clever. Rather than request an edit and risk looking like I was trying to cover my tracks, I just wanted to apologise. I’ve kept this short to avoid too much threadrot, but please feel free to PM me if anyone feels an edit would be in order, or has any further comment. Again, sorry].
 
 
miss wonderstarr
16:45 / 30.08.06
Do you really think they're homely? I suppose they aren't within the superhuman, barely-real Beyonce league, but perhaps a key aspect of their brand appeal is their (originally) girl-next-door quality ~ the "anyone could have done it" (Halo Jones!) everywoman aspect. Maybe "homely" and "girl-next-door" are neighbouring terms.
 
 
Dxncxn
16:57 / 30.08.06
No, I actually think they're the most attractive band of, well, pretty much ever. Or it's between them, "Could It Be Magic"-era Take That and maybe also All Saints. But I wasn't concentrating, and forgot that whole 'your tone of voice doesn't carry very well over the internet' thing. But the apology still stands, since I don't think, in retrospect, that the comment needed making, whatever I meant.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
17:39 / 30.08.06
Thanks for reminding me to re-listen to "Lose My Breath" with your guide-notes and annotations, (duncan).

I've just realised that Janet Jackson's "Trust A Try" was 2001 and thus within the fight boundaries. It would take more energy than I currently have to capture and convey this track's huge, melodramatic, stagey power ~ I will see if anyone agrees with me that it's a stormer.
 
 
Jackie Susann
03:53 / 31.08.06
You know what else came out in 2001?

What's luv?

Lock thread, fite over.
 
 
Brigade du jour
13:47 / 31.08.06
I nominate OutKast's 'Hey Ya' as a contender. A tightly-tied bag of joy, wild fingers picking at the string.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
13:53 / 31.08.06
If we're going for that, I nominate OutKast's "Roses." That song is brilliant.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:21 / 31.08.06
I've been trying and trying really hard to not post this, as I realise it will be a very unpopular choice...

...but I have to say Nine Inch Nails, The Hand That Feeds.

A more perfectly crafted example of industrial pop I've not heard since, well, Head Like A Hole, or possibly Ministry's Stigmata.

It's even got a really cool 80s synth noise that comes in about half-way through. There's nothing wasted, there's no fat on the beast. It would be industrial pop by numbers, were it not for the sheer passion of the thing. It's note-perfect, not a thing is wrong.

Not a particularly Barbelith-friendly choice, maybe, but it does it for me, which is, I guess, what it's all about.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
15:38 / 31.08.06
No, I'd agree with you, Stoatie, that song is ace. I blow hot and cold towards Trent Reznor these days, but I still remember when I lived in New Orleans and my friends and I would throw shit at Reznor lurking in his own corner across the way from us.
 
 
tickspeak
17:58 / 31.08.06
Mostly rock, but some dance in here too. I'll also cast my votes for Hey Ya! and Can't Get You Out Of My Head (tho by the Drunk At A Gay Bar criteria it'd be Love At First Sight, the single mix, natch). And All the Love In the World kicks The Hand That Feeds in the teeth.

Black Dice's Conetoaster (yeah, I know Pitchfork said so, I'm sorry) is Pure Dance Music. No better song to drive to at 3 AM in January.

And You Will Know Us By the Trail Of Dead, whom I normally can't fuckin stand, put out a killer track called Intelligence in '03. When that programming kicks in I just can't fight it.

You could pick almost any track from The Faint's Danse Macabre album and it'd be a contender, but for my money the strongest is The Conductor.

And are we forgetting that both of Andrew WK's albums came out in the past 6 years??? Ready To Die gave me hope for the future of humanity, and I Love Music is the best anthem since Freddie Mercury kicked off.

Sahara Hotnights put out Jennie Bomb. How come no one's talking about Jennie Bomb?? Keep Up the Speed, Alright Alright (Here's My Fist Where's the Fight?), or On Top Of Your World, if you please.

Well shit, now that's 8 Best Songs Of the Century (9 w/NIN) added to the list. Uuh, among those I'm gonna have to go with...hang on...

Yeah, it's AWK. Ready To Die is simplicity itself, the central riff written by a 4-year-old, utterly inane, and it makes me feel like Rocky. Sometimes I think about George Bush when I sing along, sometimes it's Tom Cruise, and sometimes I just jump up and down until I can't think about anything.

OH FUCK ME I FORGOT THE UNICORNS. Nike apparently really really wanted I Was Born (A Unicorn) for an ad campaign but the dudes said HELL NO. HELL YES TO THEM because that song is so good it could totally make me buy fuckin Nikes.

Alright, whatever. Now I'm thinking about The Rapture and I just give up.
 
  

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