The things we do for money

14:13 / 12.08.06

I think it's safe to say that it's almost impossible to eroticise cardigan vests. Especially ones with question mark motifs.

I will trump that assumption and do a specialized clip for you...

I am interested that no one seems to be taking up the discussion that what I choose to do can categorically tagged as being an official "sex worker."

14:52 / 12.08.06

As far as I understand it and according to wikipedia the term "sex worker" broadly covers "pornography actors or actresses" so I think if you are making little sexual fetish clips for sale to people that includes you.

Wikipedia: A sex worker is a person who earns money by providing sexual services. The term is sometimes used as synonomous with prostitution but most scholars define the term "sex work" more broadly, to include other individuals who perform sexual or sexually-oriented activities in the sex industry, such as strippers, pornography actors and actresses, and telephone sex workers (Weitzer 2000).

15:06 / 12.08.06

I wasn't arguing about the label; I just wondered if it applied to me.

I suppose I do qualify as a sex worker. I provide clips of erotica for men (and women) to view and to use however they wish.

Considering my views on sexuality and my own personality, I tend to think that this will serve as an interesting viewpoint.

15:12 / 12.08.06

No I know you weren't arguing, I'm sorry if I sounded like I thought you were. I was just saying I think it does apply to you. Does being labelled a sex worker bother you? Only I'm not sure what you mean by an 'interesting viewpoint'.

But in this world of hundreds of porn links, how do you get noticed? There are so many people doing it, so many webcams, videos. It would be easy to get lost under the triple x's.

15:34 / 12.08.06

It doesn't bother me; it interests me. I'm surprised that I have taken this long to do anything professionally--or, I guess, amateurly--erotic, mainly because I've always dreamt or wanted to do something of this nature.

Right now, I'm okay with being just another anonymous naked body in a sea of other naked bodies.

16:19 / 12.08.06

I understand that and I suppose if it is a long held desire than the question 'are you making any money from it?' is largely irrelevant. But if it wasn't a desire and you did also wnat to make money from it, how would you raise yourself up over all the other bodies, so to speak?

16:27 / 12.08.06

I don't know if I can answer that, Olulabelle. All I can say is that I'm working on a series of what I hope are unique or interesting tableaux that will titillate the discerning (or not so discerning, I'm guessing) viewer.

I'm going to do vintage erotica (ala Bettie Page and certain Weegee photos), straight out bondage ( because I own the garments for such), and specialized ones, like the Doctor Who erotica.

I can only hope that what I find appealing and sexy will be same for the person purchasing the clips.

Gypsy Lantern

17:04 / 12.08.06

I'm going to do vintage erotica (ala Bettie Page and certain Weegee photos), straight out bondage ( because I own the garments for such), and specialized ones, like the Doctor Who erotica.

Fuck. I seem to have inadvertantly manifested such a thing as "Doctor Who erotica" into existence...

I guess that's at least another five years for me in purgatory after I die, to account for accidentally unleashing that concept on the world. I should learn to keep my mouth shut.

17:06 / 12.08.06

Gypsy Lantern, I assure you that there are people in the world who will be thanking you for this concept in one way or another.

Gypsy Lantern

17:19 / 12.08.06

That's what I'm afraid of.

17:19 / 12.08.06

Well there's a big fashion for Bettie Page and vintage erotica at the moment. About a year or so ago no-one had heard of her apart from long-standing fans and now everyone knows her. Same goes for Dita Von Tese, she's very mainstream now and although she's not vintage I expect she furthers the cause.

I hope it goes brilliantly Kali, keep us updated.

17:20 / 12.08.06

You shouldn't be sorry so much for thinking it as for suggesting it and letting me run with it.

Tennantsuiteroticago!!!!!

19:04 / 12.08.06

Some of what I plan on offering:

and

(and that's kind of creepy since she sort of looks like me)

and

and

(my secret idol)

and the soon-to-be fetishized and eroticized suit

What an odd collection for inspiration. I'm also looking into using wigs and stage make-up so if anyone has experience in that field, PM me.

Gypsy Lantern

15:11 / 13.08.06

You shouldn't be sorry so much for thinking it as for suggesting it and letting me run with it.

I'm only perturbed because I can see the bigger picture. A bit of innocent Doctor Who erotica is one thing - saucy poses on the Tardis control panel and so on. But once that idea is set loose into the world, it is only a short leap before someone develops the concept further into full-on "Doctor Who hardcore". Given that the Tardis can travel anywhere in time and space, the possibilities for hardcore porn scenarios are endless: Tom Baker/Queen Victoria, Sylvester McCoy/three alien hookers, the three Doctors gangbang, that sort of thing. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

I want no hand in unleashing such things...

Hahahahahahaha

Coming. Out. Red.

Now shit your leg off.

21:20 / 13.08.06

Gypsy, I have a friend who works for Playboy TV. Apparently they're currently co-ordinating the latest series of "Doctor Screw". I shit you not.

Goodness Gracious Meme

21:24 / 13.08.06

OUCH.

14:21 / 14.08.06

Looks like we've both been trumped, Gypsy Lantern.

On a rather dour note, I find it rather disturbing of the people that I have spoken to--using a "hypothetical" situation, of course--that they equate such pics and clips as these as being pornography. One person--a female friend--went so far as to call such activities "the act of a slut."

I was shocked. I had thought my friends a bit more open-minded, I guess, but I'm curious: I have often been amazed by the puritanical behavior of Americans before. Do you think these opinions are uniquely American? By that I mean: we will use every means of our power to sexualize everything, but when presented with it in a seemingly benign form, we rail against it or are quick to label it "unclean" or "whorish" or "sick."

Thoughts?

Sax

14:31 / 14.08.06

Doubtless, someone shall ask if you will be doing doggy style.

It will, however, not be me.

15:09 / 14.08.06

Kali- I guess it all depends on where they are in the "is it porn, is it erotica, and is there a difference anyway?" argument.

Whatever kind of porn/erotica/whatever, though, "the actions of a slut" is a really, really unpleasant turn of phrase.

15:09 / 14.08.06

Now I wouldn't sully the adorable image of K-9. I do have some limits.

Bear

15:14 / 14.08.06

I think I had a dream about Dr Who porn the other night which I'm blaming this thread for, although to be fair it was better than the actual BBC offering.

15:19 / 14.08.06

Whatever kind of porn/erotica/whatever, though, "the actions of a slut" is a really, really unpleasant turn of phrase.

I agree, Stoatie. I think out of all the offensive words you can use on any gender, "slut" is one of the worst.

These are people whom I can generally trust to discuss intelligently about the "difference" between porn and erotica, so some of their comments I was taken aback by.

Not that that's changed my mind. I rarely give a damn what people think.

Ticker

15:37 / 14.08.06

Slut's been on the uprise in the reclaiming department. Ethical sluts, happy sluts, concerned sluts, and so on.

My favorite of course are rope sluts. Folks that aren't prone to specific sexual interactions, rather they just like being tied up. They may or may not then engage in a sexual act once tied up, but you know, that's not the point.

I'm wicked puritanical which works very well to fuel my perversions. Being shocked and outraged gives one a nice righteous bearing. The saving point is realizing there is no sense in being outraged over things you can't control and are, well obviously harmless anyway.

The old 'low self esteem equals promiscuity' kinda falls apart when you visit bonobo-land.

16:38 / 14.08.06

I can't remember the last thing I was shocked by. I could probably remember the last thing I was disgusted by, though.

17:12 / 14.08.06

Slut's been on the uprise in the reclaiming department. Ethical sluts, happy sluts, concerned sluts, and so on.

Doesn't sound like that was the sense it was being employed in here, though...

17:50 / 14.08.06

When it's accompanied by a horrified face, it isn't being reclaimed.

ONLY NICE THINGS

18:13 / 14.08.06

Dude, of course it's pornography. It's providing images in exchange for money which will be used primarily as an aid to male masturbation to orgasm. Nowt wrong with that, necessarily, but it's totally pornography.

18:23 / 14.08.06

Ah, where's that transforming robot when we need him...