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I Said A Dumb Thing About Pop Music

 
  

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Char Aina
17:44 / 12.07.06
jack, you forgot...well, loads.
i think what i am trying to say is i agree, and that there are hunnerds more where that list came from.
 
 
grant
18:39 / 12.07.06
Surf guitar, Duane Eddy, the Shadows, Boots Randolph, Al Hirt, the Tijuana Brass, Herbie Hancock's "Rockit," the original "Axel F," Eric Johnson, Jeff Beck, Candy Dulfer, Kenny G...

I don't think I'd consider all of those "pop" in the narrow sense (mmaybe Herbie Hancock, but not sure about Kenny G. or Jeff Beck). I do think they at least feature (or featured, for those past sell-by date) melodic lines that would be singable and were emulating the human voice.

For instance, I kinda think a lot of surf guitar was making songs that no one in the band was willing/able to actually sing. (Like, I can hear where the words "walk, don't run" would go in "Walk, Don't Run," but couldn't prove anything).

By the way, there's an interesting take on "pop" in wikipedia, wherein they say:
The term indicates specific stylistic traits but the genre also includes artists working in many styles (rock, hip hop, rhythm and blues (R&B), and country).... Often used to describe the current popular genres of music of any given time, the term "pop" cannot be used describe any one particular style.

What I'm saying is that it's possible to recognize something as pop -- as belonging to a pop style -- although the style might not be particularly particular. It's fuzzy around the edges.
 
 
Jackie Susann
21:44 / 12.07.06
Maybe pop is more a comparative term than a descriptive one? I think this gets around all the problems people have defining it.

I mean: take 'hot' (as in temperature, leaving everything else out for sake of argument). Hot can mean a slice of pizza, a jacuzzi, or the surface of the sun - things that are, basically, totally unlike each other. If one of your friends says it's really hot today, when you think it's actually pretty mild, this doesn't mean the concept of 'hot' is meaningless or totally subjective or just a marketing tool. And you wouldn't even bother trying to start agreeing on an objective definition of 'hot', because it would inevitably leave out a vast swathe of the things people actually understand by 'hot'.

I think I ripped this argument off wholesale from Frank Kogan, but I lent his book out so I can't check.
 
  

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