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08:57 / 11.04.06

Okay, the premise is simple, tell us what you're into/want to know more about and we'll try to come up with some recommendations.

All I would ask is that people argue for their recommendations. Explain why it is that you think x poster would like, or indeed benefit from, listening to that particular band/album/tune.

And let's be clear about this from the beginning, all lists will be exterminated.

09:10 / 11.04.06

To get the ball rolling, I love a particular kind of hypnotic, gentle, repetitive techno*, stuff that's as at home in your living room as on the dancefloor, and would normally come under the detroit banner. Artists that exemplify this sound are Juan Aitkins, The Other People Place and Claro Intellecto. Please note, however, that if your recommendation is *more* than ten years old it's very likely that I'm already familiar with it, or am familiar with the artist in question.

*As indeed, it would seem, does my baby.

Keith, like a scientist

13:14 / 11.04.06

I would recommend Boy Robot's Glamorizing Corporate Lifestyle, which is on City Centre Offices, as it's one of the few 4/4 techno albums that I really enjoy listening to at home. There is enough of a swing in most of the tracks to tickle my hips, but it's truly gorgeous. When it kicks in, it's becomes very pulse pounding, but not overly intense.

14:48 / 11.04.06

I'll give them a go and report back.

14:51 / 11.04.06

In fact, that's a point. Could people who've had recommendations suggested to them give some feedback? I think it would make for a more interesting and productive thread.

22:42 / 11.04.06

There is a pretty cool website which this thread would go hand in hand. It's a site called Flork. Type in your fav artists and it will give you a heap of recommendations. Some which you will have heard of and maybe some not. It's a resource that has lead me to buy 3 CD's so far, of artits that I have never owned before.

So back to this threads main point, I am liking more and more what I hear from The Bug, which is a dancehall, breakbeat, dub outfit with some rasta MC's over the top, all produced by Kevin Martin. I really enjoyed 'Pressure' their debut album, and NEED some more! I got a whole heap of King Tubby and Horace Andy, Jackie Mittoo, which would be my fav reggae artists. Any more recommendations???

09:38 / 12.04.06

Yeah, there's a bunch of music recommendation websites and I'm happy to work with them, but this thread should add that human touch - not to mention the thinking behind the recommendations - that's so often lacking when you go the automated route.

So, how about Peter Tosh's Equal Rights? I don't claim to know much about Reggae, but it's a great upbeat, sing along, popular album by one of the genre's biggest stars and it includes Get Up, Stand Up. Every tune's a hit and I've been listening to it sporadically for almost ten years. Give it a go, it's a pretty safe bet.

Alternatively you could check out one of the very large and very cheap Trojan compilations, which should work nicely as a sampler.

09:49 / 12.04.06

Lee Perry would be an obvious recommendation. Though avoid his later stuff like the plauge, he's done loads of dreck....Try the "Open the Gate" boxset which is a collection of some of his best 70s productions. Perhaps more melodic than you're looking for, if you're into The Bug. Also, for Perry, you might like "Blackboard Jungle Dub" which is a KILLAH!!!

A frequent contender for best reggae album ever is "Heart of the Congos" by The Congos, another Perry production. if you like the above, you need this record. If you want some more heavyweight dub, check out Yabby You. I've got a great Trojan comp,. will post name when I find it.

As for the Dancehall stuff, I'm less currently clued up...
You could try the Greensleves compilations though, they're dead cheap.

You might be interested in this thread: Earthquake on Orange Street

10:01 / 12.04.06

This thread inspired me to dig out my favourite dub album which is Jah Shaka Masters Vol. 1 - comp. of rare Shaka "specials". Might well be unavailable now but it's wicked. Another favourite is the two volume Johnny Clarke set reissued on Trojan - "Don't Trouble Trouble" and "Johnny in the Echo Chamber" (the latter is the dub of the former). Great stuff, which I don't listen to half as much as I used to.

I also never smoke dope these days. I wonder, are these two connected?

10:12 / 12.04.06

Or, you know, you could listen to what Ill said.

I bow to his expertise.

17:09 / 12.04.06

Another great site for this is www.pandora.com. Enter a song/artist and the thing will act like a jukebox, playing songs with simiilarities and explaining why the song was selected in relation to what you put in (production style, a particular riff, etc.) I've found this to be incredibly usefull in terms of finding new music I like.

18:19 / 12.04.06

I use Pandora and I like it.

18:28 / 12.04.06

I *should* say I have used Pandora and liked it but apparently it's currently off limits for everyone outside the US.

ARSE

18:34 / 12.04.06

I *should* say I have used Pandora and liked it but apparently it's currently off limits for everyone outside the US.

Weird i just used it?

Keith, like a scientist

19:55 / 12.04.06

Slate, I'm not sure if you are responding strongly to the Kevin Martin element in The Bug, but he has had a long and prolific career, from free jazz insanity with GOD to the more electronic sample collages of Techno-Animal. My favorite project of his, though, was the Ice album Under The Skin, which is an extremely dub heavy rhythmic workout of an album. It has fantastic guitar by Godflesh's Justin Broadrick, a long time collaborator of his.

The follow up album Bad Bloodwas not as exciting to me, but I do remember it contained a lot of MC tracks, and it might be the precursor to some of his more dancehall and dub related efforts.

00:24 / 13.04.06

Hey Keith!!! It is exactly where I am coming from, YES! I have all of which you mention, plus a few more... I can't stop playing GOD's album Anatomy of Addiction, at least once a month. I have been into Godflesh since 1993 when I first heard Streetcleaner, and have been a Broadrick fanboy ever since. The deep bass dub is where I am at right now though, I got live radio collaboration between Soundmurderer and the Bug which goes for about an hour, and a Bug EP with Warrior Queen, Aktion Pak, but this is all I can find...

Illimatic, I have wondered about Yabby You for some time, and haven't bought any as yet, and will purchase the first thing I find based on your props, also added Congo to the shopping list, thanks!!! As for Lee Perry, I like Super Ape's Upsetters a heap, but can't say I am into Perry's other later works as much, I will get there eventually. Thanks for the threadlink to Orange Street, will look into it closely. I am on woebot now...

Also,speaking of France, while I was working in Turkey I got to DJ at a reggae club in Ankara called Locus Solus there a few times, my DJ sparring partner Ozan, gave me a few CD's by Brain Damage and Fouta, bloody good stuff, from the French Dubbers!

Thanks for the luscious leads Lithers!!!!

06:01 / 13.04.06

Slate, glad you liked the reccys. The Yabby You thing I was thinking of was "King Tubby's Prophesy of Dub". It's Tubby gone dubwise on a load of Yabby You tracks. It's a corker. Spent most of yesterday listening to it thinking, God this is good. Makes me want to track down the vocal versions.

09:21 / 13.04.06

Cheers for the recommendation, Keith. I've not listened to Robot Boy before and I have to say I like it although it isn't exactly what I'm looking for. It's a little bit light and quirky and just a tiny tad too funky for my current purposes.
I'm trying to think of a well known example of the kind of music I'm talking about but I'm having real difficulty. Think analogue washes, jittering synths, beats working strictly within the 4/4 pattern, the odd sleazy vocal sample, lots of repetition, reasonably gentle, and, crucially, minimal.

09:34 / 13.04.06

Boboss, listening to new Knife LP I was struck by how much some tracks reminded me of some early house stuff. One thing that came to mind was Blake Baxter - I don't know if you know his stuff - it's old so you may well have heard it, but I think a lot of the old house stuff is getting reissued, so you might be able to find it?

Harrison Ford, in a battle suit, wheels for feet, knives and guns

10:11 / 13.04.06

Recently Blake Baxter has been doing stuff (predominantely vocals) with Abe Duque. It's ace, proper straight up detroit prince of techno action. "What Happened" is probably my fav.

Check it out.

The Natural Way

10:24 / 13.04.06

Absolutely, Ill, the 1st track on Silent Shout is sooo old skool it hurts. Gorgeous. Just download the bloody album, boboss.

Why does he never just do what I tell him?

13:32 / 13.04.06

I have downloaded it, I just haven't had an opportunity to give it a good listen.

Harrison, I'm going to check out your recommendations. You and Punce are both attuned to my taste so I'd be a fool not to.

Ill, yeah, you seem to get where I'm coming from. I can't remember BB's sound but the name rings all kinds of bells - I'll have a crack on Soulseek later.

uncle retrospective

13:59 / 13.04.06

I *should* say I have used Pandora and liked it but apparently it's currently off limits for everyone outside the US.

To get round the Pandora problem, google an american post code, any one will do, put in on request and Bob's your uncle.
As they say.

Boboss, as for the Techno, try Audion. The album Suckfish is a minimalist and quiet number with some filthy track titles. For playing when in "the mood".

Keith, like a scientist

14:01 / 13.04.06

Boboss, you might want to peruse the Kompakt catalog. Might be a bit closer...certainly less funky, more strictly 4/4 and minimal stuff, I think.

Keith, like a scientist

14:06 / 13.04.06

As for me, I was wondering if anyone could recommend some things in a classical vein to me. My knowledge is really small, and when I hear things I like, I look into that composer or symphony and don't quite love the rest of what I'm hearing.

I like the very slow and cinematic type of stuff that someone like Max Richter is doing currently. But I also adore Wagner's Das Rheingold Vorspiel prelude, but have found that the rest of his stuff isn't like that. I also like Tchaicovksy's Arabian Dance portion, but not the more light and happy moments from whence that comes...

Soundtracks are obviously a keen source for this type of thing, but I haven't found many that really hit my buttons yet. I enjoy the Solaris soundtrack that Cliff Martinez did and the Birth soundtrack that Alexandre Desplat did.

Any recommendations that mine this same type of territory?

uncle retrospective

14:13 / 13.04.06

Is anyone lisenting to Metalcore? I've been listening to Trivim and Still Remains and I have to say I'm loving them. It took a lot of getting used to the clear vocal with out screaming Emo! but the music rocks. Anything in the same vein?

20:21 / 13.04.06

Keith, if you like repetitive music and you're interested in experimenting with classical, perhaps you should give Phillip Glass's Solo Piano a go. Basically it's Phillip Glass and a piano and a whole lot of recurring themes for fifty or so minutes. Failing that you could try his Violin Concerto effort - similar, but with violins - or the popular and more varied Glassworks.

I happen to love Solo Piano to bits and play it more than is probably healthy. Bear in mind my lack of objectivity and desire to pimp the album at every available opportunity before handing over your hard earned dollars.

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

21:43 / 13.04.06

Yay on the Glass- Keith, I'd also recommend some Michael Nyman- more the Greenaway soundtracks than anything else, really- Drowning By Numbers is fairly wonderful. Also Gavin Bryars- if you want repetitive, then go for Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet. The Sinking Of The Titanic is ace too, and for shorter pieces which are actually quite lovely check out A Man In A Room Gambling.

21:49 / 13.04.06

I'm not that into Nyman, personally, although I do like some of his output and it does seem formally pretty similar to Glass's work - to my musically naive brane, at least.

Lots of me Glass loving pals also have a lot of time for Nyman.

Keith, like a scientist

23:37 / 13.04.06

Boboss and Stoatie, thanks for the recommendations! I will check those out, althought I'm not sure repetition is the quality that I am responding to in the "classical" stuff that I enjoy...it's hard to say, but all I can come up with is "slowly, soaring, cinematic, thematic," like the less bombastic Hollywood moments of Shore's Lord of the Rings scores.

Will let you know what I think, though!

08:24 / 14.04.06

I appreciate that repetition probably isn't what you're looking for but I'd say give Glass and Nyman a go anyway.

Just been listening to Audion's Suckfish and I'm liking it quite a lot, especially TB. Will get back when I know more.

The Natural Way

08:39 / 14.04.06

Yes, but why aren't you listening to The fucking Knife?

The Natural Way

08:48 / 14.04.06

Hmmm. Listening to loads of RAWK! music right now - Comets on Fire, Lightning Bolt, John Spencer Blues Explosion, The Liars, even some 8O's Matchbox - and, you know what? I want some electronic, groovy stuff. I don't mean Detroit, or neon-lit house, or stuff along the lines of !!! or LCD, in fact I'm not sure what I mean - all I know is that it has to be fresh and original and look really good on the dancefloor. The Knife are helping, and with the arrival of Musique, Daft Punk are set to hit the stereo again, but I need something new, something different. Arrgh! Help!

10:39 / 14.04.06

I'm not listening to thefuckingknife because it's very intense and it's not good for sleeping babies.

Babies impose heavy restrictions.

Have you got hold of The Juan Maclean album yet? I think you'll like it alot. And what about the Knife's first album?

For those that don't know the Juan Maclean is yet more disco punk - a rock dance hybrid that actually works - but it's very varied and by turns very exciting.

The Natural Way

14:26 / 14.04.06

Juan Maclean? Why don't you burn some of this Juan Maclean off for me? I won't have broadband again until I....move into my. girl. friend's.

You didn't know about that, did you?

I'll continue this conversation in meatspace. Anyone got any other suggestions, while I surf the web for details on Mr. Juan Maclean.

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