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Harold Washington died for you

04:09 / 06.03.06

I said it's hard out here for a pimp. I said it!

I get it. The best song that is the most integral part of a good movie is the winner. 'Pimp' was arguably the center of Hustle and Flow, so good for the 36 MAFIA. Although Howard could have preformed the song better than the artists who wrote it.

Best movie: Well, approximately 47,000 people worked of Crash, so it had the ballot box stuffed. I didnt see Brokeback but as neither a homo(sexual) or a cowboy, I gotta say I'm not that unset. But I am surprised.

The show: As a 27 year old this is the first show I watched all the way through. What can I say, I'm a Jon Stewart fan. That being said (paraphrased) "Next up is a salute to montages" LOL. "Scorsese - 0 Oscars, 36 Mafia - 1" HAHA. I'm glad he (Stewart) didn't get all fuck Bush on us, because that is not the purpose of the show.

Next year: Hey, more Whoopi!

07:05 / 06.03.06

I know what you mean, I didn't bother with Starwars 'cause I'm not an ewok or a jedi.

Be prepared, I'm going to talk the CRAZY language, but might I suggest that being gay and/or being a cowboy are not prerequisites for enjoying Brokeback Mountain.

Glad to see Hoffman get the Oscar for Capote.

Disappointed to see Crash get anything.

Harold Washington died for you

07:41 / 06.03.06

Please lord dont let me be misunderstood. I'm not upset that Brokeback lost. I understand its universal appeal. (bring the kids!)

Harold Washington died for you

07:52 / 06.03.06

Even more elucidation. I love gay people. I love cowboys. I have lesbian ranch hand friends. Reading the press it seems gay people have more emotional investment in this movie than others. I quite naturally assumed they would be disappointed that it lost. I would have been disappointed if Crash lost. I was glad to see Crash win because it featured black people. Because I'm black. Get me? And being a black jedi I'm very disappointed Samuel L. went out like a bitch in Sith.

09:13 / 06.03.06

What is the point of the Oscars?

Self-congratulatory backslapping? Not really the stuff of great TV...

Tryphena Absent

11:41 / 06.03.06

Nice dresses though.

12:53 / 06.03.06

And I think ol' Phil deserves a pat on the back. It really is a fantastic mesmerising performance.

13:17 / 06.03.06

Of course Munich gets completely snubbed. Oh well.

15:34 / 06.03.06

Stewart did a fine job. Ben Stiller's 'greenscreen' introduction was one of best, wackiest and most creative Oscar presentations I've seen. His 'disembodied head' talking to the audience, and then of course his 'Envelope, OPEN YOURSELF!!!" bit was hilarious....I also liked 'for the first time, an Oscar will be given by...NOBODY!!!'

"You know, I think it actually just got a little easier out there for a pimp" was terrific... but I agree that I wish Howard had sung/rapped the song and not 360 Mafia. The lyrics are great and I couldn't really hear them very well when the rappers did it (maybe it was a lousy mike).

Man, the Academy seems afraid of piracy and DVDs...they kept saying 'NOTHING CAN COMPARE with seeing movies on a SCREEN, people, right?!?! RIGHT?!?!?!?!' They seem desperate and afraid of the dwindling box office that all the new technology brings.

16:18 / 06.03.06

Munich didn't deserve anything, when compared to the subtle, much more mature work that was around it.

Haven't seen Capote, but think that it's a shame David Straithern didn't win, his performance was beautiful in good night..., but I repeat, I haven't seen Capote.

Crash didn't deserve best film, it was too heavy handed in making a point - scene one, person shouts at camera "I'm racist!" cut to scene two, person shouts at camera "I'm racist" repeat with different classes, races and sexes until end.

Oh, and having seen Syriana yesterday, George definitely deserved the nod, if only for the great moment in the diner with Christopher Plummer, superb getting across a looking up of a character and deciding that the man before you is yours for the taking, that you are the boss, all played in his eyes, and then he starts to speak, calmly, quietly and you just know that his threat is genuine.

16:22 / 06.03.06

Munich was a token "issues" nomination, though; it probably needed to be nominated, and it didn't need to win anything. Plus, it keeps Speilberg cheery.

16:37 / 06.03.06

Straithern was great and if it wasn't for Capote and Hoffman I'd've been totally behind him.

Benny, that's pretty much my take on Crash.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

17:16 / 06.03.06

"And none of them were ever problems again."

Colbert stole the show but most of it was disposable trifle, Natalie Portman's cover of Eazy's "No More ?s" the night before will last longer in the minds of America than that four hour snoozer. But hey, Wallace & Gromit!

17:51 / 06.03.06

Colbert was there too?

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

18:26 / 06.03.06

He did those Best Female Lead attack ads.

18:39 / 06.03.06

I thought those were Rob Corddry, Benjamin.

Also, I pretty much agree with every word Benny said -- I honestly think Strathairn's was the better performance, Hoffman was great as Capote but Strathairn was the first time in a looooong time that I've seen an actor truly disappear entirely inside a persona, to the point where I had no idea I was even watching an actor anymore. He blew me the hell away in that movie. That said, I still think Gyllenhall should've wone over Clooney in SYRIANA, but I'm glad Clooney got an award anyway, since when you tally it all up he did the most great work of anyone in Hollywood this year. (Including his appearance in Jon Stewart's wonderful intro clip.)

And CRASH really, really sucked. I'm sorry, it just did. Certainly in comparison to the movies around it. The most accurate thing I've heard said about it is that it was "the most daring movie of 1991." Seriously, it's just a hybrid of DO THE RIGHT THING and Altman ripoffery without most of the positive aspects of either one.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

19:20 / 06.03.06

Hm, tough call just judging the voices.

20:43 / 06.03.06

I'm seconding Cordry, but when I first saw it, I thought it was Ed Helms, so I'm probably not the authority. And Do the Right Thing + Altman (+Sap) seems to be the perfect summation of Crash, a film that seemed to me to be a classic, pretty good, not great movie. You leave the theater satisfied, but you forget about it a few hours later.

That said, I though it was a pretty solid Oscar ceremony, the dancing pimp performance was a bit weird, but it was great to see Three Six Mafia pick up the Oscar. I thought Stewart was really funny, particularly with those negative ad bits, and though the opening was a bit shaky, pretty much everything afterward worked. And even though I wasn't happy to see it get the award, I loved the way Jack Nicholson seemed surprised to see Crash on there.

21:21 / 06.03.06

Be prepared, I'm going to talk the CRAZY language, but might I suggest that being gay and/or being a cowboy are not prerequisites for enjoying Brokeback Mountain.

I'm not gay nor a cowboy, but I didn't see Brokeback Mountain because, as far as I know, there's no aliens, no explosions, no greenscreen magic, and not even some back-breaking in it. Or is there?

I did think "It's hard out there for a pimp" is the best song this year (it was the only one I cared enough to pay attention to, at least).

Holywood may be in favor of gays, liberals, jews, and African-Americans (and movies with 7 million actors in it), but, boy! do they hate DVDs, don't they?

And it would've made no difference to me who won Best Movie, I'm still pissed The Silent Gardner didn't get nominated.

AND I can't believe they payed hommage to Robert Altman, but forgot to mention his best movie ever: Popeye!!!

21:33 / 06.03.06

I didn't see Good Night & Good Luck because I'm neither a network anchor nor a man. I was really hoping Ledger would win Best Actor though... I didn't think Hoffman's performance was anywhere near as good, but he appeared to be a crowd favorite. I also hoped Brokeback would win Best Picture. Oh well, hopefully Brokeback was the start of a good career for Ledger and he'll win someday.

I was disappointed by the dresses. Aside from Uma Thurman's, they all seemed unusually boring this year.

21:35 / 06.03.06

I'm still pissed The Silent Gardner didn't get nominated.

I didn't know they made a film about mulch this year.

21:43 / 06.03.06

The Constant Garnder. Don't know what I was thinking... duh

22:18 / 06.03.06

I just got back from seeing Brokeback for the second time (with a friend who hadn’t seen it) and was, well, a little disappointed it didn’t win best picture. Both the leads were very strong. Would second the view that you would need neither to be gay or a cowboy to see it, take something from it, and have an emotional investment in its success. I liked Munich but I think Benny the Ball had it spot on in terms of its subtler competition. I didn’t have any desire to see Crash. Would quite like to see Capote.

00:24 / 07.03.06

I was disappointed by the dresses. Aside from Uma Thurman's, they all seemed unusually boring this year.

I like those classic-looking gals that seem to have been the "way to go" this year. They make the women seem... sophisticated, I guess.

Much better than Bjork's dead duck, I'll tell you that

00:25 / 07.03.06

... And Nicole Kidman, oh my God!!!! Tom Cruise is an idiot.

02:38 / 07.03.06

Wow. A lot of hate for Munich on this thread. Am I the only person in the world who liked Munich? Sure it wasn't perfect, but I loved it. I enjoyed it far more than I did Brokeback Mountain, which I admit, I loved, but Munich seemed a more enjoyable experience as a film. Brokeback had me looking at my watch a couple of times....

Crash winning Best Pic. Well.... I don't know. I liked Crash. I think there's a thread somewhere with my wanking all over the film. My problem with the film, as months pass, is that the drama comes from the contrived elements of the screenplay as opposed to the psyche of the characters, the symbols for America, the ham-fisted "Hey, this is racist, and it's bad" ideas. Thank the bearded stone that Haggis did not win Best Director. That would have been disappointing.

Ang Lee as best director? Really? What did he do in that film that was so special? If anything the director of photography should get most of the acclaim. Wyoming (I think) looks beautiful there. Personally, Clooney should have got it. He had McCarthy playing himself! That's inventive and interesting.

02:39 / 07.03.06

Munich didn't deserve anything, when compared to the subtle, much more mature work that was around it.

And Crash was subtle?

02:40 / 07.03.06

Triple-post, yoiks,

Dead Megatron: they had a clip of Popeye in the montage, you just had to be eagle-eyed to see it.

06:36 / 07.03.06

mattehsis - the rest of my post sums up what I thought of Crash, that sentence was in reply to another post about Munich, and Munich was a film out of it's depth compared to the others around it.

06:44 / 07.03.06

I just looked, the other post was by you. Anyway, Crash wasn't subtle or good (except for Terrance Howard and Ludacris), and Munich wasn't subtle.

11:06 / 07.03.06

Dead Megatron: they had a clip of Popeye in the montage, you just had to be eagle-eyed to see it.

Did they? I completely missed. Well, I'm less pissed now, then

ONLY NICE THINGS

12:58 / 07.03.06

It's a bisexual shepherd movie, you FACISTS.

14:31 / 07.03.06

Ah, Haus, quibbling over details again, are we? This old Haus: same old, same old.

15:31 / 07.03.06

*Thread Rot*

no no no This ole Haus

*Threadrot Ends*

I've just finished reading Peter Biskind's 'Down and Dirty Pictures'- which puts an interesting case for "buying" an oscar through heavy publicity and bribing - even down to geriatric academy members being phoned individually and helped with their decision by studio execs. Hence Its not always the best film of the year that wins- but the best marketing team...

On the DVD thing- the academy have essentially banned DVD mailouts of current releases to academy members to curtail piracy- although it has been heavily opposed by independents- who (Biskind argues) don't get the same distribution as major studios- and got a massive boost in the oscar race by letting members see the DVD's at home... by creating a ban the studios get a massive advantage over the smaller more interesting films that won lots of oscars in the 90's...

Harold Washington died for you

16:13 / 07.03.06

I heard on the radio (from a Foxnews.com reporter no less, oh dear!) that Lion's Gate, the company that distributed Crash, hired a bunch of the Mirimax Oscars ad team to get its movie the statue. This team is arguably the multi-headed Karl Rove of Hollywood.

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