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astrojax69
20:37 / 20.02.06
you'll just be the great cook, doc, doc...

i avoid ever giving a title and am mightly peeved - even almost as much as bad urban planning gets my goat - when an on-line form won't let me get past it on these grounds. please fill in all the boxes. no, you still missed one. grrrrrr.

just 'almighty astro' is fine. never a box for that, i find.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
21:36 / 20.02.06
Yeah, I prefer simple and unpretentious too. To Hell with ceremony - just Your Holiness and the one curtsey will do fine.
 
 
Olulabelle
21:39 / 20.02.06
I think 'Ms' is pronounced 'Mzzz'. As in 'Bzzz'.

People addressing the Ms's of this world often seem quite unable to say it normally and it's generally accompanied by a kind of odd shoulder rock (left-right-left) and one raised eyebrow. They also extremely cleverly place huge emphasis on the missing R of 'Mrs' or the missing I of 'Miss'. They do this using strange enunciation which actually means, "I think you're saying 'Ms' because you're not young enough to be Miss, or you can't keep your husband, or you're overly protective about your title and I expect you're one of those 'feminist types'."
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
22:43 / 20.02.06
Xoc, will you accept a bow from the men without kilts, or am I going to have to go invest in a dress before I can ever be in your presence? I really don't know how to curtesy in a t-shirt and jeans.
 
 
Loomis
08:43 / 21.02.06
I agree that titles should be abolished, as they're more bother than they're worth. When I send out letters at work I rarely use titles unless it's to someone important who might get annoyed if I don't put "Professor". Then again, that's more of a job title I suppose.

I try to avoid giving one but when forced by those drop down menu thingies I just choose Mr. I feel pretentious using Dr, not sure why really. Probably if I were an academic I would feel more comfortable using it as it would feel more like a job title than trying to get social standing from the fact that I did a degree. Plus I get tired of questions like "why did you do a PhD if you didn't want to be an academic? Wasn't that a waste?"
 
 
Jack Denfeld
08:47 / 21.02.06
Wasn't Dr. Doom thrown out of school for blowing up the science lab while trying to teleport to Hell? Is he really a Dr.?
 
 
sleazenation
09:11 / 21.02.06
Dr Doom got his docterate from a bogus organization on the internet...
 
 
■
09:29 / 21.02.06
He'll be starting a Channel 4 series soon, You Are What You've Destroyed.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
09:44 / 21.02.06
The Quakers are good on titles. I used to live with one of the worthy little chaps and they always impressed me with their refusal to use anything but your name. One woman I knew was an honourable and had a medical degree and a PhD but I never knew that till I'd known her for ages. I remember we met with a titled Scottish politician to campaign about gay law reform and she called him by his first name throughout wihich initially wound him up something rotten.

I remember also, visiting Denmark in the 70's to stay with friends, when it was still a haven of liberalism, and finding that nobody used titles or second names. Even the phone book was listed by first name, since everybody was either an Andersen or Hansen.

Is there actually any real need at all for any sort of title? Is there a single instance anyone can think of where it makes any difference that matters?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
10:31 / 21.02.06
When people only give their initial on forms and no title. I always feel stupid saying "is that P Smith?"

I regularly ask people to call me Nina on the phone. Otherwise I'm called all kinds of things, which is absurd.
 
 
Loomis
10:44 / 21.02.06
But I suspect if titles were abandoned then using only your initial would probably be less common.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
10:49 / 21.02.06
Good point and the forms would be changed in accordance with the extra space allowed.
 
 
Brunner
11:13 / 21.02.06
Slightly off topic....what I hate is politicians titles. The Right Honourable Mr Tony Blair? Really?
And those wankers who accept a kick-up to the House of Lords and then turn up as Lord Coe, Minister for the Olympics or something! Why does the Lords have to have titles? Apart from the fact it's called the Lords of course...
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
13:35 / 21.02.06
Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America always makes me laugh. The scary thing is, if we had a President who chose to go by First, Middle, and Last, and also was a Dr this could actually happen.

Although as far as villains go its gotta be titles all the way, for example The Mad Misunderstood Professor Evil Maniac.
 
 
Sekhmet
13:47 / 21.02.06
I'd like to go by "Goodwife" but no one will let me.
 
 
Ex
14:00 / 21.02.06
There's sommat in the rafters, Goodie Sehkmet!

I saw Goodie Shaftoe with the Devil!

I could get into it.
 
 
matthew.
14:58 / 21.02.06
I'm excited to get my PhD just so I can arrogantly insist that everybody call me "Grand Vizir"
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
15:32 / 21.02.06
If there were Goodwives, does that also mean there were Badwives? Is that what those cavortin' with the Devil (Divil) called themselves?

"More baby's blood, Baddie Smith?"
"Oh yes, Baddie Grant. And please pass me some of that pilgrim. He was delightful."
 
 
grant
16:19 / 21.02.06
True fact: "Damned" was a Puritan name. It was a contraction of "Damned would we be were it not for Christ's blood."

I very nearly gave my daughter a Puritan virtue name. I was lobbying hard for Remarkable.

Although this isn't exactly a title, per se.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
16:38 / 21.02.06
I knew a guy who changed his name by deed poll, adding the word "Lord" before his original birth-name. I shit you not. He said it was amazing how people changed their manner towards him when (e.g) he handed them his credit card.

Personally, in meatspace (at least) I dislike it when someone addresses me by my surname and I don't know them socially. I'm not sure why exactly. Maybe it's just an ingrained cultural reflex, a sort of linguistic shield to establish private and public boundaries. For example, I was with a friend once when he got stopped and searched by the police (for no good reason), and after he gave them his details, they kept on calling him by his surname, even after he politely asked them not to do so. It was disrespectful, condescending, and served only to make the situation even more humiliating.

That typed, I agree that it's about time Mr/Miss/Mrs/Ms was scrapped for something more suitable. I like "Comrade", but that has semiotic baggage of its own, so...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
17:22 / 21.02.06
Could your faux-aristo friend have been pulling your leg, pw?

I like Comrade too. Shame about the baggage.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
17:32 / 21.02.06
Bastard!

Thing is, the guy was such an unusual character (sorry, but for privacy's sake, I obviously can't give any more details), that I believed him without question. The swine. Funny though (even if the joke's at my expense).

Cheers for the info, comrade.

P.S. Er...the Easter Bunny's not a fake though, is he? Say it aint so...
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
17:33 / 21.02.06
Fun names
Some people like the idea of having what we call a fun name. We have issued Deed Polls for fun names such as Jellyfish McSaveloy, Toasted T Cake, Nineteen Sixty-Eight, Hong Kong Phooey, Father Christmas, Ed Kase, Ting A Ling, Huggy Bear, Donald Duck, Save Barnsley FC and James Bond.

How would you appropriately title Save Barnesley FC?

Mr. FC, Mr. Barnesly FC or Mr. Barnesley, FC?
 
 
Mourne Kransky
17:49 / 21.02.06
I've always thought there was something unconvincing about that Easter Bunny, Comrade.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
18:24 / 21.02.06
My title is and always shall remain Iron Chef.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
19:23 / 21.02.06
Xoc, that's the cutest rabbit I've seen in ages.

Erm...Sorry all. Today seems to turning out to be a day dedicated to highlighting my own stupidity. Nevertheless, for the sake of honesty an dclarity, please note: throughout my original post in this thread where I typed "surname" I meant "forename". i.e. if my friend's name were (say) "John Doe", the police were calling him "John", not "Doe" or, as he asked them to call him, "Mr Doe".

That typed, I actually don't like people I don't know calling me by my surname either - makes me feel I'm back at school or something. Hence, I think, the need for titles in certain situations...

Know what I mean?

Again, sorry for any confusion.
 
 
Ganesh
19:28 / 21.02.06
Dr.

For a lonnng time, it sounded faintly sarcastic when people used it to my face. I always quite liked it in writing, though - and I've kinda grown into the verbal thing too, now.
 
 
astrojax69
20:51 / 21.02.06
it is curious what a costume can do, too... i started working life as a policeman [aghast! yes it's true] and i remember the first day, walking down the suburban road toward the train on the way to work, a spotty nineteen year old wet behind the ears (all those cliches), i was young, anyway, and people nodded and murmured, 'morning, sir.' i was shocked a little at first, until it sank in - but i remember the discord with how i thought of myself as against what i was perceived to be by my fellows. titles represent things easily for us, denote a set - whereby prejudices might emerge. but the labels can be useful on occasion, so how to balance these?

on funny names, one boring night shift in said occupation i looked thru the phone book and found the name: mcgherkinsquirter always liked that one... almost as good as colin pitchfork, a name i had to call as a tele-marketer. oh, life....
 
  

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