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uncool stuff that you've done with magick

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14:21 / 02.03.02

I suggest resolving this by a duel...wands and servitors, at dawn. Steps twenty-two paces, turn, and wank....

15:08 / 02.03.02

Did you mean 'wank' or 'plank'?

..

16:41 / 02.03.02

Hmmm... All the diZzying action 'round here lately has finally sucked me out of my lurking hole.

I think I understand modthree/five's un/position well enough now to comment and to maybe help confuse you Lothar a little further...

I don't mean to speak for modthree/five, but the reason, it seems to me, that we are never quite sure whether he/she adheres to whatever he/she is trying to get at is because he/she is not writing from his/her singular point(.) of view.

So when he/she quotes:

quote:
M/magic(k) should not be confused with “sorcery,” which is the practice of using formulas and rituals by the ordinary mind to affect reality in self-seeking ways. “Magic,” on the other hand, is active participation of the higher consciousness in creative experiences and mystical understanding.

I think he/she is illustrating the difference not between high and low M/magic(k), but the difference between a constant, adaptable magical existence and fixed forms and rituals. Put another way, dividing space
and time into the mundane and magical vs. experiencing the mundane and magical at the same time, all the time.

Is that anywhere near your mark modthree/five?

18:00 / 02.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Lothar Tuppan:

Let's be clear about what we're discussing before another shitstorm pops up.

....By understanding that from the outset I won't get into a semantic arguement due to a difference in chosen definitions.

All I am saying is, almost an essential feature of a modthread --and the reason why I personally enjoy them-- is that definitions are *not* stable in them. They *don't* begin with understanding at the outset. Gnosis happens through misunderstanding, though ideally this would be misunderstanding without hostility. It's a different playground, and "define your terms" is not necessarily the rule.

Anyway. Uncool stuff that I've done with magic(k). This morning I cleaned the bathroom.

It started off as pretty "uncool," because I was only thinking about trying to make cleaning the bathroom more fun and rewarding, to make myself do it more often (since living in squalor is apparently not enough motivation for me).

Then I got to thinking about how I could make it into a purification ritual, clean the outside and clean the inside sort of thing.

Then I got to thinking about how you know if what you are doing is magic {really}. I think Logos said this interesting thing on another thread, something like on some level *everybody* does art, but you know some people Do Art and it kicks ass. So on some level, yeah, stirring your coffee or cleaning your bathroom is doing magic... but say you want to kick it to the next level. How do you do it and how do you know you did it?

I sort of came to an answer in my own head, but I've been writing on too long already... I'll just say that my last job was as a technical writer for a process engineering group, and it struck me that magic(k) and process engineering have a lot in common.

I don't know when I've ever more enjoyed cleaning the bathroom than this morning.

Also I found this blue turquoise eye pendant that I didn't even know was missing, that was cool.

06:04 / 03.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Lothar Tuppan:
edited because I just found his response to my question in the Mangoin up the Magick thread

Little time to write today, but thought I'd quickly address your confusion. The post is in three parts. Start at part 1 above, go through the door to part 2, then through the EXIT to part 3.

m3

[ 03-03-2002: Message edited by: modthree ]

05:57 / 04.03.02

quote:Originally posted by [monkeys of thoth]:
I suggest resolving this by a duel...wands and servitors, at dawn. Steps twenty-two paces, turn, and wank....

Oh?!

quote:Originally posted by Lothar Tuppan
Did you mean 'wank' or 'plank'?

Oh My?!

quote:Not originally posted by modthree
How ‘bout we wank on a sigilized plank or we wank with a sigilized plank?

Oh My GAWD!!

*O*

Umm…anyone got a Kleenex or sumthin’?

m3

06:28 / 04.03.02

So Lothar:

<hands Lothar a f*#kin' coffee>

Cream? Sugar? Mordant sure makes a great brew, eh?

Anyway, I think I answered your questions. You found the answer to one and if you went on the tour, then you read my answer to your first question. But in case you didn’t catch that answer or would like an answer that is less than the answer I’ve already given you, then I’d have to say that by ‘mundane’ I mean all those things that aren’t “…about spells, sigils, servitors, godforms, etc. etc.” I feel that Nick and I are on the same page—but perhaps reading in different languages, and that maybe Mordant’s latest thread, "Raising..." could also be seen as a reflection of my answer to your question: you decide.

<shrug>

tm: I think that any Z can speak for me—and perhaps this is limburger (or a sharp cheddar)—as long as s/he speaks from the heart…and, to me, this you seem to do. So yes, you are quite near the mark. Perhaps a Robin Hood with Persephone (for those of you who know little to nothing about archery, a “Robin Hood” is when one arrow that is already in the target is struck by a second arrow shot at the target in such a way that the second arrow splits the first arrow in two down the length of the shaft). Especially your last full paragraph. Stay iced illin’ yo’! Which is to say, thank you for coming out of your lurking hole to {play}.

“modthread”!?!

Persephone, you simply full out rock (especially in light of your adventure re: the Kiss-Kiss Bears)! I bet yer bathroom is more spic and span then it’s ever been!

Love you guys (and gals),
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