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Dick Cheney is a friggin moron.

 
  

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Spyder Todd 2008
21:42 / 13.02.06
Who's the current Speaker of the House?

Dennis Hastert, from my home state, I'm afraid. He's quite the asshole, I've heard.
 
 
matthew.
03:42 / 14.02.06
You see, this is why we need an Weapons Forum. To talk about old farts shooting their friends in the face.
 
 
Spaniel
06:22 / 14.02.06
No, we need a weapons forum because of this...

 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
06:49 / 14.02.06
A ninja sleepover?
 
 
Supaglue
06:53 / 14.02.06
Dudes, I think you're all missing the point here....


What make of gun was it....?

[spuffs at the thought of the Ruger X2000 'Friendkiller']
 
 
HCE
08:16 / 14.02.06
The guy in the grey in the back and the guy in the green belt in the middle both have particularly lethal gleams in their eyes. I mean, Mr. Green Belt isn't even goig to bother taking off his socks before he beats your ass.

Lethal.
 
 
A
11:42 / 14.02.06
Imagine if this was the other way around, and it was Cheney who'd been accidentally shot in the face. I'm not sure the shooter would be in the clear the way Cheney seems to be.
 
 
Dead Megatron
11:59 / 14.02.06
And the guy on the right looks sooo stoned...

Don't know if the other guy would be in the clear if it was him who shot Cheney on the face,b ut that would be a better story to read...
 
 
Chiropteran
12:03 / 14.02.06
The NRA sets the record straight (via a link to the Houston Chronicle):

"Media feathers flew after the South Texas quail-hunting accident that involved Vice President Dick Cheney, but such incidents are rare, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department records show."
(http://www.nraila.org/news/read/inthenews.aspx?id=7195)

Note the use of the word 'accident,' without further comment or correction by the 'People Kill People' NRA.

I haven't yet found any other mention of the Friendly Fire incident on their (terrifying) homepage. (www.nra.org)

(I don't know how Tom feels about showing up on the NRA's 'referring sites' list, so just cut'n'paste the URL's.)
 
 
Chiropteran
12:17 / 14.02.06
Oh, and "involved," even. Precious.

Well, he was certainly involved, that much is true.

Apparently the doctors have decided to leave the birdshot in Whittington's chest, neck, and face. When asked how many pellets were staying in, the doctor said it was more than he could count on his hand but "less than a hundred." Reassuring.
 
 
Hattie's Kitchen
12:53 / 14.02.06
How convenient for Cheney that the Secret Service refused to allow the local sheriff to interrogate him until a full 24 hours after the incident. Just enough time to sober up, isn't it?
 
 
A fall of geckos
15:27 / 14.02.06
The following quote comes from TranceFormations of America by Cathy O'Brien, quoted here:

"Dick Cheney, then [assistant] White House Chief of Staff to President Ford...was the reason my family had travelled to Wyoming where I endured yet another form of brutality - his version of "A Most Dangerous Game," or human hunting.... Dick Cheney had an apparent addiction to the "thrill of the sport." He appeared obsessed with playing A Most Dangerous Game as a means of traumatizing mind control victims, as well as to satisfy his own perverse sexual kinks."

So... Is Dick Cheney hunting people for sport or does Cathy O'Brien have a unfortunately fragmented grasp on reality?
 
 
Hieronymus
17:23 / 14.02.06
While this may not be funny....

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas -- The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had a "minor heart attack," a hospital official said Tuesday.

...this most certainly is:

Jon Stewart: "I'm joined now by our own vice-presidential firearms mishap analyst, Rob Corddry. Rob, obviously a very unfortunate situation. How is the vice president handling it?

Rob Corddry: "Jon, tonight the vice president is standing by his decision to shoot Harry Wittington. According to the best intelligence available, there were quail hidden in the brush. Everyone believed at the time there were quail in the brush.

"And while the quail turned out to be a 78-year-old man, even knowing that today, Mr. Cheney insists he still would have shot Mr. Whittington in the face. He believes the world is a better place for his spreading buckshot throughout the entire region of Mr. Whittington's face."

Jon Stewart: "But why, Rob? If he had known Mr. Whittington was not a bird, why would he still have shot him?"

Rob Corddry: "Jon, in a post-9-11 world, the American people expect their leaders to be decisive. To not have shot his friend in the face would have sent a message to the quail that America is weak."

Jon Stewart: "That's horrible."

Rob Corddry: "Look, the mere fact that we're even talking about how the vice president drives up with his rich friends in cars to shoot farm-raised wingless quail-tards is letting the quail know 'how' we're hunting them. I'm sure right now those birds are laughing at us in that little 'covey' of theirs.

Jon Stewart: "I'm not sure birds can laugh, Rob."

Rob Corddry: "Well, whatever it is they do ... coo .. they're cooing at us right now, Jon, because here we are talking openly about our plans to hunt them. Jig is up. Quails one, America zero.

Jon Stewart: "Okay, well, on a purely human level, is the vice president at least sorry?"

Rob Corddry: "Jon, what difference does it make? The bullets are already in this man's face. Let's move forward across party lines as a people ... to get him some sort of mask."
 
 
Triplets
18:18 / 14.02.06
lol, as the kids say.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:37 / 14.02.06
lol, as the kids say.

Thanks a fuckin' bunch. I am now going to be haunted to my grave by visions of Dick Cheney going "BOOM! Headshot!"
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
19:09 / 14.02.06
My image now is Cheney, Bush, and Condaleeza Rice sitting around doing a LAN game of CounterStrike, and Bush is complaining about how Cheney is killing people on his own team with his random shots.
 
 
LykeX
08:33 / 15.02.06
Coverup
 
 
Hieronymus
18:20 / 15.02.06


"Not one person bothering to ask, in the meantime, how Dick Cheney's feeling about all this. After all, he's a human being and injuring someone else in an accident can take a huge toll."

FOX delivers.
 
 
Hattie's Kitchen
18:36 / 15.02.06
I saw this on AmericaBlog:

Cheney's Chappaquiddick II: The Real Story Emerges

The real story is already emerging, if you're willing to do a little digging. Cheney and Whittington went hunting with two women (not their wives), there was some drinking, and Whittington wound up shot. Armstrong didn't see the incident but claimed she had, Cheney refused to be questioned by the Sheriff until the next morning, and a born-again evangelical physician has been downplaying Whittington's injuries since they occurrred.

[snip]

In addition to Cheney and Whittington, the hunting party included Katherine Armstrong (who was in the car at the time of the shooting: more on that later). After lots of evasive comments that only referred to a "third hunter," we now know her identity: Pamela Willeford, the US Ambassador to Switzerland.

Then there was this Armstrong quote on MSNBC and picked up by Firedoglake (later dutifully scrubbed, but preserved on Google cache): "There may be a beer or two in there," (Armstrong) said, 'but remember not everyone in the party was shooting.'"

Interestingly, Armstrong's playing with words here. She later said that she (Armstrong) hadn't had anything to drink, so at least one of the other three must have been drinking - and the other three were shooting. So while her statement was literally correct ("not everyone ... was shooting"), it gives the false impression that nobody drank and shot.

Then there was this item (courtesy kos):

Armstrong said she saw Cheney's security detail running toward the scene. "The first thing that crossed my mind was he had a heart problem," she told The Associated Press.
In other words, she didn't see the accident. All of her statements, replete with colorful sidebars about getting "peppered pretty good," gave the false impression she was an eyewitness. She wasn't.

[snip]

So was Cheney drinking, and was there anything inappropriate about this hunting party? We don't know, and nobody's investigating. There's reason to be suspicious. We do have the suggestion that drinking was taking place, we have inconsistencies and a pattern of deception in Armstrong's statements, we have a shooting injury that's far more serious than originally claimed ... and a Sheriff's Department and national press that have already proclaimed the VP innocent of all wrongdoing.

[snip]

They're trying to spin it as just a badly handled case of press relations, but it could be a whole lot more than that.


Interesting...
 
 
Mistoffelees
07:48 / 16.02.06
These t-shirts might get old quick, so get them now...
 
 
Dr. Tom
09:02 / 16.02.06
Yes, accidental or otherwise, shooting someone in the face is assault.

According to the spinners, it wasn't assault; it was "a peppering." Happens all the time. Besides, in the US, shooting a lawyer is a mitigating circumstance.

Also remember- Dick Cheney has had 3 drunk driving arrests. He states he had one beer earlier in the day... but took 14 hours to report the shooting to Law Enforcement... Plenty of time to sober up.
 
 
Mistoffelees
09:21 / 16.02.06
but took 14 hours to report the shooting to Law Enforcement... Plenty of time to sober up.

This sounds like taken from a conspiracy theory, but I can easily imagine Cheney getting blood transfusions for his blood alcohol level dropping to legal levels before he faces the police. It´s not impossible: he´s the vice-president with a heart problem, and his own ambulance always travels along with him.
 
 
Chiropteran
11:44 / 16.02.06
it was "a peppering." Happens all the time.

Which, ironically, is contradicted by the NRA's kneejerk response (linked above) that "hunting accidents aren't nearly as common as people think."

So, far from being something that could "happen to anyone," I guess the NRA is trying to say that the VP was exceptionally negligent?
 
 
Hattie's Kitchen
12:38 / 16.02.06
He's already admitted to drinking "a beer" before the hunt began - combined with all his heart meds it's not unfeasible that he was tripping slightly when they started shooting. What I find funny is that 5 days after the event, the "eyewitnesses" still can't seem to get their stories aligned.

Cheney also said that he didn't inform the White House at the time because he didn't have any press people with him (but weirdly, he had a full medical team travelling with him). Sure, like he lost the power of speech and forgot how to use a mobile phone.

The shifty fucker is hiding something, make no mistake.
 
 
Lenore of Babalon
18:52 / 16.02.06
A friend of mine is a police officer here in the very state this occurred in and is absolutely purple in the face regarding this. If that had happened with anyone else, regardless if everyone agreed it was an accident, the police would have set the whole thing up as a a crime scene, impounded the weapon as evidence, NOT been put off 14 hours to even talk to the shooter, etc, etc, etc. The fact that it was handled this way is I guess how people who are above the law do things...

After months on here it takes Dick Cheney to lose my Barbelith posting virginity. I feel so.... dirty.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
14:47 / 18.02.06
I remember when Dick Cheney took my virginity.... it's what turned me off of men forever...
 
 
Dr. Tom
23:15 / 18.02.06
Flutterby said:
Which, ironically, is contradicted by the NRA's kneejerk response (linked above) that "hunting accidents aren't nearly as common as people think."

So, far from being something that could "happen to anyone," I guess the NRA is trying to say that the VP was exceptionally negligent?


You know that anyone with a working knowlege of shotguns is aware that you won't create such a tight pattern at 30 yards even with a fully choked 28 GA.
( See this demonstration:

Basically, this administration has, for the sake of short-term mollification, set up a severe cognitive dissonance among their voting base that uses shotguns. Underneath it all, they know it's a lie.

Me? I'm an armed liberal and own two shotguns. Shit, when the voting booths are rigged, what's left?
 
 
Spaniel
23:26 / 18.02.06
Me? I'm an armed liberal and own two shotguns.

The culture gap between Britain and America is sooo fucking huge here. I read a sentence like that and the words "bizarre" and "absurd" start flashing in my brain.
 
 
Dr. Tom
00:12 / 19.02.06
I assume you do not have Diebold or ES&S voting machines in your country...

The US has a rather unique governmental system. (Freedeom and democracy 1.1 beta) We don't do the parlementary thing that forces compromise. We have a winner take all system that encourages the extremes.

You obviously trust your government more than I do mine.

My children's great Grand Father dies in a shootout with Castro's soldiers. I have an ancestor who died at Bunker Hill.

Brits took Hitler's Bombardments, but have not had to question whether their government was violating the Magna Carta.

You have not had elections act all screwy like ours have in recent years.

The American Liberals are being portrayed in Central Europe as the Jews were before WWII . I for one have no intention of making the same mistake that the Central European Jews did.


Raw power struggles happen. I am pleased for some nations that it is not on the horizon for them.
 
 
Spaniel
00:17 / 19.02.06
Sorry, I understand the arguments and the history, and I'm not actually interested in geting into the rights and wrongs of gun ownership, I was just pointing out that it's a rather alien concept to most Brits.
 
 
Supaglue
14:15 / 19.02.06



I think we can all agree that Quayle hunting is a necessary evil that can only be carried out safely with firearms.
 
 
bacon
15:04 / 19.02.06
"The American Liberals are being portrayed in Central Europe as the Jews were before WWII . I for one have no intention of making the same mistake that the Central European Jews did."

did somebody say bizarre and absurd?

also: did dick get the bird and the lawyer? or just the lawyer?
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
14:35 / 21.02.06
Unknown, although it is assumed that the bird is still at large and a threat to national security.
 
 
Benny the Ball
14:38 / 21.02.06
The bird has been quoted as saying that he'll never be captured alive...
 
 
Sekhmet
17:26 / 21.02.06
The rumor now is that Cheney and Pamela Willeford were having an affair, and the delay in reportage was due to an awkward attempt to cover up who was present at the scene.

And as an asisde, how in the name of holy hell do you shoot a Texas attorney in the face and not get sued? Seriously.
 
  

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