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Ariadne
14:54 / 05.01.06
Sorry, I wasn't saying you should necessarily go for dead skinny, just that I'm not convinced skinny tyres puncture more. More muttering to myself than saying anything helpful!

It sounds like you can trust the guy in the shop. Let us know how the test ride goes!
 
 
The Strobe
15:13 / 05.01.06
That's a nice bike, Tabitha - good range of kit and I'd guess that the price is about spot-on for that kit. Alivio/Deore mix is reliable enough, and it's an OK fork (though it's manufactured by Suntour for Marzocchi,iirc, it's better than Suntour's own stuff). Also, you're getting a better deal there by staying away from disc brakes. Interested to hear how the test ride goes.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
19:04 / 05.01.06
Skinny tires are more susceptible to punctures in general simply because the actual protection between the ground and your innertube is thinner and less likely to carry some form of puncture resistant backing. However, a vast majority of this susceptibility is mitigated if you keep your tire pumped up to the correct pressure. This is why I always advise cyclists to buy a track/floor pump and check their pressure about once every two weeks.

Since March of 05 I ran my road bike on racing slicks and only had one puncture when a broken plastic fork gouged a hole in my side wall in Hackney.

Here are a couple of very handy cycling resources for those interested:

Sheldon Brown
Ken Kifer
Bike Forums
 
 
Ariadne
07:20 / 09.01.06
Well? What happened? What did you buy, if anything?

We picked up our bikes yesterday and they're fabulous. I'm off out now to play.
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
14:34 / 10.01.06
The final update - it's done! I am the new companion of a lovely Marin Hawk Hill cycle and overflowing with joy. Purchased and collected on Saturday, spent Sunday riding. It's soooooo light and such a smooth ride. Beautiful dark blue/purple frame and all that new bike stuff that's so ace: clean, silent gearing; brakes that work so well it's frightening. And I didn't know front suspension could be this good. I recommend this bike to everyone in the world.

Changed the tyres for something smoother and my work-commute is a world of easy compared to my old bike. Have to confess to a bit of choking on the full accessory front, though. I had fully intended to get cleats and suitable pedals but got frightened as the money started to add up.

When I get my service in about a month, I will see how healthy the bank balance looks and will probably go for it then. I think I will leave the panniers and rack until closer to spring/summer when I'm more likely to do some distance/going away type riding.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread - I really don't think I would have got the bike I have had it not been for the advice you've all given me. And I don't think I could possibly be happier with Mario (for 'tis his name).

Congratulations and yay to Ariadne and Loomis for the similar new cycle goodness they are no doubt out enjoying at this very moment - or if not, very soon.

Almost time to cycle home - the excitement!
 
 
Ariadne
15:02 / 10.01.06
Hurray! I'm so glad, I was wondering how you'd got on.

I was out playing on Clara (yes, I name them too..) yesterday and it was equally good on busy roads and bouncing along forest tracks - just the bee's knees.

Poor Loomis has had to work, and so has just had a wee shot on Sunday - but we'll head out this Saturday and have fun.

(and I know what you mean about the accessories - they add up really fast)
 
 
Jub
14:54 / 24.04.06
bumpity bump.

I'm starting the bike commute tomorrow for the first time ever - weather permitting. I've got a bike and lock etc, but was wondering from the people here who do bike in - what do you do about smelling?

Part of the reason I am going to bike to work over the summer (70 minutes each way), is so I can get fit AND same money. Don’t really want to join a gym just so I can use their showers and pay through the nose for the privilege. I was planning on bringing a flannel and towel and some industrial strength deodorant. Any practical tips anyone?
 
 
Jub
15:01 / 24.04.06
bumpity bump.

I'm starting the bike commute tomorrow for the first time ever - weather permitting. I've got a bike and lock etc, but was wondering from the people here who do bike in - what do you do about smelling?

Part of the reason I am going to bike to work over the summer (70 minutes each way), is so I can get fit AND save money. Don’t really want to join a gym just so I can use their showers and pay through the nose for the privilege. I was planning on bringing a flannel and towel and some industrial strength deodorant. Any practical tips anyone?
 
 
Ariadne
15:12 / 24.04.06
You should be fine - if you get changed when you arrive, especially if you wear 'wicking' cycling clothes, that'll solve most of your problems. And then, yes, a flannel or some wet wipes to freshen up. If you give yourself enough time to ride there and don't have to bomb it, you won't get too sweaty anyway, and you might not need to change. One tip I've heard is to slow down for the last 10 minutes, that lets your body cool down more slowly.
And it might be worth asking at your work - lots of places have showers hidden away in odd corners.
 
 
Jub
07:21 / 25.04.06
Ariadne, you'll be delighted to hear I smell very fragrant after your reassurance. Had a really nice ride in this morning and looking forward to the summer doing this. Huzzah!
 
 
Ariadne
07:40 / 25.04.06
*sniffs Jub's armpit*

Yep, you'll pass. Glad it went well!
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
08:16 / 25.04.06
Don't know what your carrying requirements are for a day at work, but can I suggest (as someone who doesn't have any) that you might consider investing in panniers. I cycle to work every day and the only bits of me that get really sweaty are those that come into contact with the bag full of work and clothing that I hump on my back.

All the smart people have pointed out to me that you don't have this problem if you can avoid carrying a pack. All that being said, I find that as long as I bring a fresh shirt, a quick splash in the basin and reapplication of deodorant is sufficient. Then again, at least two people have left with no explanation since I joined the team, so maybe I'm not the person to ask...

On the rack and panniers front, I am planning to purchase such items quite soon - will be using this thread to check for recommendations, but if anyone wants to pre-empt me with advice that's always welcome.
 
 
Ariadne
08:32 / 25.04.06
Well, the rack really comes down to what you'll use it for - if you think you might tour and need to carry heavy bags, then invest in a stronger Blackburn rack, but otherwise the cheaper ones will be fine for commuting. (The cheap ones are about £15, Blackburn £25-30)

Panniers range hugely - I've got Ortlieb ones, which are totally waterproof but quite dear. They're also a bit annoying as they are just one big sack, with no little pockets, which makes organising/ finding stuff a bit of a challenge.

Usually you have to buy two panniers at once, but Edinburgh Bike Co-op sells individual ones.

I can't think what to look out for except make sure it's reasonably waterproof, and pockets for your keys and wallet are handy... and try it on your bike, to make sure you won't constantly kick it with your heel. Some are angled to help prevent that. Or if, like Loomis, you have absolutely giant feet, you can get ones that go on top of the rack.

Or, indeed, you can save money and just buy bungy cords to strap your rucksack to the rack. But your clothes will get a bit squished.

Oh, or some rucksacks are designed to hold the bag off your back, so you don't have it sitting against you - never tried one, but it seems a good idea.
 
 
invisible_al
13:29 / 05.06.06
Just a note to say this thread rocks, I've just picked myself up a bike and associated gubbins. Now I've parked it at work, I've just got to ride it home and remember how these gear things work...
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
13:45 / 05.06.06
Welcome, invisible, for now you are one of us. Today, as I cycle home I will wave to every other cyclist I see just in case it is you!

My Mario continues a treat and gives me a happy every day - and we would never have met were it not for the sage advice offered by Barbelith's two-wheels good community. Maybe we should all organise a series of Barbe-cycle/picnic-style summer events to be held in different locations around the world...
 
 
Brunner
14:36 / 06.06.06
I cycled to work for the first time ever today and it was really good. I took a longer route to avoid traffic and went fairly slow to ensure I didn't sweat too much and aside from a near miss with a 4x4 it was fun and uneventful. I must admit that I have left the office a few times to check that my bike is still where I left it.

Hopefully I'll now get home quicker than the bus and safely in one piece....
 
 
Olulabelle
10:54 / 11.10.06
I need some bike advice. Now that the weather is becoming inclement I am finding that The Lovely Boy and I get very wet sometimes. We have waterproof cagouls and although they keep the rain off we get very sweaty in them. We don't have waterproof trousers either and I worry about TLB getting cold legs at school.

So what should I buy? Is there such a thing as an over clothes waterproof that won't make us sweaty? I read upthread a bit something about 'wicking' clothes. What are they?

If I need specialist cycling things, where can I get kids ones?

That's a lot of questions but I have two more.

When I cycle, I get numb fingers. I think this has something to do with not holding my handlebars properly, but I can't work out how to do it any other way. It happens to The Beautiful Man too, but not to TLB.

Second health question; it's really hurting my knees even after half a term of cycling twice a day, to the extent that going up and down stairs is painful. Will this pass or is it something to do with me having arthritis?
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
11:25 / 11.10.06
So what should I buy? Is there such a thing as an over clothes waterproof that won't make us sweaty? I read upthread a bit something about 'wicking' clothes. What are thay?

There are two words that you need to know. Wicking and breathable.

Wicking is more important for longer rides, breathable should suffice for the school run.

Wicking is stuff that absorbs sweat and moves it to the outside of the fabric and usually made from synthetic fabrics. It's designed to be the layer that rests against the skin.

Breathable, is stuff that has a membrane that allows sweat vapour to pass through whilst preventing water droplets (rain) from getting to the skin. Additional features to look for in breathable clothing are vents which allow easy air circulation away from rainfall and upsplash.

Consider waterproof leggings because any rain coming off of a jacket will soak into any other legwear. Breathable is more important here because the legs are the bit doing the work. If you don't have waterproof shoes, shoe covers are a worthy investment as well. Bearing in mind that feet lose a lot of heat fast when wet.

I'll try and dig up some links to specific clothing for you in a bit.

If I need specialist cycling things, where can I get kids ones?

Except for the pitfalls of mail order (beware the returns policies) it's down to taking the time to scour your local shops, which may be a bit further afield than the 7/11. Sadly children aren't well catered to but if I can get the links you'll at least know what to ask for. If someone doesn't stock it, ask them who they think will.

When I cycle, I get numb fingers. I think this has something to do with not holding my handlebars properly, but I can't work out how to do it any other way. It happens to The Beautiful Man too, but not to TLB.

Children are much less susceptible to this because they are likely to shift hand position more often. Two suggestions on this. 1) Find a range of positions that can be used on the handlebars that you have (consider adding bar-ends/flat bars) and use them no matter how silly they look. Even fists balled up rested on top is possible if you don't need to cover the brakes. 2) Try wearing cycling gloves if you don't do so already. Sage advice if you are going to keep riding into winter.

Second health question; it's really hurting my knees even after half a term of cycling twice a day, to the extent that going up and down stairs is painful. Will this pass or is it something to do with me having arthritis?

Is your bike set up properly for you by a professional who isn't some dismissive kids who loses interest when your bike isn't a Kona or some other "cool" brand? If not, this needs to be done before you do anything else.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
11:40 / 11.10.06
Bicycle shops in Birmingham.

On Your Bike and Action Cycles are reputable chains that I occasionally use when my LBS is inaccessible.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
11:56 / 11.10.06
A good example of a kids cycle jecket

Decent adults jacket

Wicking is also know as base layer.

Take a look at the specs and show them to sales people, you are looking for something comparable. If you're not sure, or think someone is trying to take advantage of your lack of knowledge, PM me and I will tell you if they are talking shite.

Be warned of RaceFace clothing, it looks good until it falls apart shortly after purchase. Bastard Canadian crap.
 
 
Olulabelle
11:59 / 11.10.06
What do you mean by set up for me?

Bike Pro are really good and that's who fixed the bikes up for me when we first started cycling (checked the breaks and changed the tyres etc.), but I didn't ask them to measure my height on the bike or because I already had it from ages ago when I just used it for mucking around. It's not an expensive bike or anything. Perhaps I should get them to have a look and see if I fit it properly. I think I do, I can reach the ground with my tip-toes when I sit on the saddle.
 
 
Olulabelle
12:03 / 11.10.06
Yes those jackets look perfect!

Disingenuous I knew you would be my cycle guru. I worship at your cleats, you with your wide and varied cycle knowledge.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
12:13 / 11.10.06
I mean getting the saddle at the right height and lateral position and the the handlebars adjusted to a position suitable to your riding style and body geometry. This does need to be changed from time to time as you react to the stresses of cycling and joints alter their functionality.

The cost of a bike has no bearing on how well it will fit you, although you may find riding a different type or style of bike more suitable.

The tip-toes thing isn't the reliable method any more. You need to get the extenstion while pedalling right. The leg needs near complete extension at the bottom of the stroke with a little flex/twist possible. The balls of the feet should always be over the spindle of the pedal. Furthermore you should aim to keep your legs parallel to the frame when pedalling, even when they bend.
 
 
Olulabelle
12:27 / 11.10.06
It's clear some body/bike style assesment is called for. I shall check it all out in a bit on my way to school.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
16:13 / 11.10.06
After eight years on the faithful ol' Norco Bush Pilot, I think it's time to invest in a better breed of bike. Especially since I bought a camping hammock last summer (people, this thing rocks so hard it makes my teeth hurt) and I'm planning on spending every weekend I can in 2007 hitting the wood trails for one-night jaunts.

I'll be plumbing this thread for that, but a general question first: is there a good season for bikes? I'm not sure if the end-of-season is a better time than start-of-season, or if there's really a difference in terms of pricing and sales. Generally speaking, of course.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
10:20 / 12.10.06
Bike buying season is usually at it's best between November and March when people are less inclined to go out and buy new kit. Only the more serious riders buy frames at this time.

Sales times vary from shop to shop but at some point they will want to get rid of the old stock to make space for the next year's models. Be careful though. Some stuff almost never goes on discounted sale, or only has a very short discount run because the designs/demand don't change much. These are usually things like tourers and folders but will include some MTB types and some road tpes as well.

If you want to go for woods trails that aren't too loose or bumpy then I'd advise something along the lines of a steel framed tourer (Dawes Galaxy Range) or a cross bike (Kona Jake the Snake). Ortliebs are also the pannier of choice as they have a track record of not being eaten by critters.
 
 
Olulabelle
08:24 / 19.10.06
On further examination it would appear that my saddle to pedal ratio is not as it should be, and so may well be the cause of my sore knees.

Should I raise my saddle a bit, and if so should I raise my handlebars too?
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
08:33 / 19.10.06
Raise the saddle and then raise the handlebars only if you feel that your back, shoulders, elbows or wrists feel discomfort.

You know you've raised the saddle too high if you start to rock your hips as you peddle. It looks cute but, like high heels, just isn't that good for you.

Once you've gotten the saddle height right you should essentially have the movement from below the waist divorced from the movement above the waist in a normal riding position.

Here is a good article on road cycling (reed distance and racing) from the Grauniad. Valuable advice for many cyclists.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
07:06 / 02.11.06
So how is everyone coping with the return to seasonal temperatures?
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
08:45 / 02.11.06
Still thinking about buying for next year right now -- the biggest "bike guy" I know in the area says November's the best month, as they're pushing all the old models out the door and getting ready for the post-Christmas splurge.

There's one place that deals in Kona, and another that deals in Marin, and I'm going to (hopefully) visit both after work today looking at something that can handle both street and light (unpaved, but groomed) trail. Wish me luck!
 
 
Olulabelle
19:27 / 02.11.06
How the bejesus do I keep warm with my layers of thermals and correct clothing when I set off, without becoming close to meltdown towards the end of my ride due to all the hills and general energy exertion? My body has become incapaple of sorting me out and does not seem to know what to do.

It is cold so I am wearing lots, I exert myself, I get hot. I sweat. I take my top layer off, I stay hot, I stop cycling I AM INSTANTLY FREEZING and stay cold for about three years.

This cannot be right. No it cannot.

And why can all the men still go so much faster than me?
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
19:29 / 02.11.06
As a cold-weather bike commuter, I put a lot of emphasis on warm headwear and handwear, and trust that my body will sort itself out if I wear a nice "lumberjack" thermal shirt with snap buttons up the front. It's easy to tear open if I start to melt down, and easy to do up again at intersections.

Fleece jacket with pit zips is also a very convenient way to manage heat.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
22:56 / 02.11.06
Back to my big decision:

In terms of models in-store that seem appealing to my eyes and budget, the two better bike shops in town have a couple of things to offer. Since it's end of season, everything is (in theory) cheaper, and (in theory) only the stuff in stock in on sale, as that's kind of the point of the sale.

In Corner 1, weighing in at a freakin' awesome shade of orange, is the Kona Jake the Snake. CAD$1051 post-discount.

In Corner 2, sleek and black and like the KITT of bicycles, is the Cannondale Bad Boy. CAD$1600-20% = CAD$1280.

The Bad Boy is about CAD$250 more expensive than Jake the Snake, but this is the with-shocks, with-disc-brakes version. The stripped-down version is STILL about $200 more than Jake the Snake, because it's not in stock and ordering things doesn't get you any discount.

I've been riding around on a Norco Bush Pilot mountain bike for years... 1994 vintage or thereabouts. So I have NO experience with shocks (never had 'em), disc brakes (I have big thick rubber chunky brakes), those funky shifters, or -- well, any of these doodads.

The Bad Boy has real thin rims, but apparently they're double-walled and just as good as hybrid rims but a lot faster.

In terms of shopping experience, Jake is at a store that is devoted 100% to bikes, which gives me confidence, but the Bad Boy is at an outdoors store and the salesman there was extremely enthused about it.

In terms of price, both are a leeeetle beyond my budget, but Jake would let me factor in some clip shoes, which would be nice.

Help!
 
 
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00:07 / 03.11.06
I got a Giant Sedona 2005 recently. I'm really really new to riding (I haven't since I was 12 or so and I'm just learning to commute by bike, so I hate sharing the road with car traffic and I'm not safe sharing the sidewalks with innocent pedestrians) so it seems to be the perfect model for me. It's comfortable, reliable, sturdy, and not expensive. That said, I haven't figured out the using of the gears, and I somehow made the chain come off the other day. While walking it.

1 pH33L dUM.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
00:14 / 03.11.06
Hopefully this isn't old news, but it was a surprise to me when the guy at the shop told me a few years back, and has saved me a lot of agony since then: the key to shifting is that you should never treat the front gear and back gear as independent from each other. The back gear complements the front gear, but you shouldn't run the two in opposition.

Say you have gears 1-3 in the front and 1-7 (but let's call them A-G just to keep things straight) in the back. You can use the little front gear (1) with letters, say, A-C on the back gears, and the medium front gear (2) with letters C-E, and the large front gear (3) with letters E-G, but you should never have combinations like 1-G or 3-A. It really strains the whole system and creates situations where it's easy to de-chain.

Shifting from least resistance to most resistance on my bike, a 21-speed, works like this:

1-A
1-B
1-C
2-C
2-D
2-E
3-E
3-F
3-G. A "21-speed" really therefore only has nine real functional gear settings, from easiest/easiest to hardest/hardest.
 
  

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