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X-Men: Deadly Genesis (spoilers)

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20:05 / 16.11.05

So, yet another Decimation title has reared its possibly ugly head...X-Men: Deadly Genesis.

First ish is out...and something interesting has sprung up. The possible return of a significant "character".

Supposedly the big baddie is created from the vast amounts of energy that mutants once wielded, which is no longer under control after the power loss, but couldn't be created or destroyed.

Energy hits giant pieces of rock floating in space...and someone is born from it.

Take into consideration the Milligan issue where Lorna sees something in space...and the upcoming arc "What Lorna Saw." Also take into consideration why the 2nd round of X-Men (which the cover of DG harkens back to...Giant Size #1) were created in the first place (outside Marvel's cash flow)...and what role Lorna played in that arc.

Then tell me the new baddie isn't KRAKOA...now with arms, legs and possibly more appendages!

Cool idea? Stupid idea?

Mister Six, whom all the girls

20:19 / 16.11.05

Mix.

20:37 / 16.11.05

Just as long as it's not Onslaught.

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

20:42 / 16.11.05

That was certainly my first disturbing thought, grid.

21:12 / 16.11.05

Fuck, you're totally right. It's Krakoa. They shot him into space the first time, fergodssake. I can't believe I didn't see that.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

21:16 / 16.11.05

I liked this comic book.

Matthew Fluxington

21:20 / 16.11.05

It was a pretty decent comic. I'm giving Marvel the benefit of the doubt on the Decimation stories, waiting to see where they go with all of this. I adore Peter Milligan, so I trust the guy to give me some solid nonsense. Ed Brubaker is okay enough too.

21:20 / 16.11.05

Yeah, I saw this coming from solicitation text alone. Maybe they'll surprise us, but I doubt they will.

Is the comic itself worth picking up? I like the X-Men, but I generally can't tolerate the quality of the books (ASTONISHING and Milligan notwithstanding).

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

21:55 / 16.11.05

As someone who was personally offended by the inferiority of The Day After, I can say that Deadly Genesis is a Better Than Average X-Menical Book.

Matthew Fluxington

22:04 / 16.11.05

It's okay. If you like to read X-Men comics, it's a satisfying fix and is unlikely to make you feel like you need to take a shower immediately afterwards.

23:31 / 16.11.05

Krakoa isn't that bad. I was afraid they'd bring back John bloody Proudstar.

OTOH, am I the only one tired of "Professor X was really a bastard" stories?

Matthew Fluxington

23:42 / 16.11.05

Agreed - Krakoa is fine, "Xavier actually not a wonderful guy!" stories are played out.

I would like for people to do stories where Xavier is neither a saint or a bastard. Is that really so difficult? I guess Grant Morrison did that a little bit, but he still mined the "dark secret from Professor X's past" trope.

00:59 / 17.11.05

SPOILERS!!!!!

thought about Krakoa too... but after reading the issue at hand... I do not know... He shows heavy telekinesis... could be Proteus... but sounds dubitable since he is being used over in Exiles... Maybe legion?

Mister Six, whom all the girls

11:28 / 17.11.05

Krakoa never wore a belt or rubber-gripped shoes, though.

SPOILER??

If you think this is a spolier feel free to edit my post, I don't care, but without insider info I'm 99% sure it's Thunderbird. I thought I heard that this comic was about thye fallout from the X-Men's early days and te one character not shown in the photo Nightcrawler was looking at is ol' Proudstar himself, the grunge before grunge superhero.

END SPOILER???

In any case, it was a great comic after the House of M nonsense. It used the idea of placing the mutants in danger, establishing the 'family' of the X-Men again over the idea that they're some super rescue league or Morrison's school concept (not that I disagree with new ideas but the X-Men as family has always worked best I think). The art was solid and I quite liked seeing Sentinels, a moustachioed Beast and the X-Men getting the snot kicked out of them.

Here's a shot in the dark to see who cries ouch, but Marvel Girl looked almost exactly like Cally from Blakes 7 (which makes perfect sense), anyone else catch that?

11:47 / 17.11.05

Joseph?

13:33 / 17.11.05

Maggott?

Murray Hamhandler

13:36 / 17.11.05

Sunder?

Oh gosh please let it be Sunder.

Matthew Fluxington

16:01 / 17.11.05

Why can't the X-Men just be like a surrogate family that runs a school and rescue people? I don't get why all three things can't be going at the same time.

16:13 / 17.11.05

They did, when it was called New X-Men.

Matthew Fluxington

17:25 / 17.11.05

Definitely close as it has ever come, for sure.

lonely as a cloud...

07:52 / 18.11.05

Decent enough comic, I thought. Only thing is, though, after loving Cassaday's Beast in Astonishing... good god, what's happened to the Hank this time around? Did the House of M give him really bad plastic surgery? The rest of the art was fine, but Beast's face just looked a mess. IMHO.

13:40 / 18.11.05

Am I the only one who thinks this Trevor Hairsine guy is pretty weak as an artist? I remember he was trumpeted by Marvel as Their Next Great Artist and the Marvel work he's done (pretty much his only mainstream comics work after his indie stuff on a book called Cla$$ War) is not very impressive...in some spots it looks quite bad to me.

His art made me not buy this book. I was so put off by the art that I didn't even want to Byrne-steal it after a cursory skim.

lonely as a cloud...

14:06 / 18.11.05

The art wasn't anything special. But it was *painted*, and *supposed* to be special, which was a bit irksome.
Cover was pretty decent, though.

rabideyemovement

14:51 / 18.11.05

The character has to be Krakoa using the dead body of Thunderbird. I could tell from the previews that it was Thunderbird. They even removed T-bird from the cover if you notice (just a thought, why wasn't Sunfire on the original Giant Size X-Men cover? anybody?) and Krakoa was cast into orbit on the new X-Men's first mission. I suppose, being able to absorb living tissue, Krakky absorbed the dead body of James Proudstar or such. At first I was assuming he was possessed by the Adversary, but now I think we'll be reading a backstory as to the true origin of the mutant who became a living island...
One problem though. Krakoa was taken by the Stranger to the Stranger's Laboratory World and after masquerading as an island fought Quasar. They should probably explain how he escaped.

rabideyemovement

14:54 / 18.11.05

No, I changed my mind, they shouldn't.

15:26 / 18.11.05

There were/could-be many Krakoa's, that seed and spawn and split, though. Remember Excalibur's 'Son of Krakoa' what fought Nightcrawler with some elemental zombie Vege-Men? Why not many seeds, with anamnesis potential? Son of... remembered partial memories, but if one was spawned out in space and had absolute memories, it'd be just like being Krakoa, but not.

16:25 / 18.11.05

At first I was assuming he was possessed by the Adversary, but now I think we'll be reading a backstory as to the true origin of the mutant who became a living island...

I might be misreading your quote, but if so, it made me think of something brilliant (and if not, brilliance-kudos to you for thinking of it, because it went by me when I read it): it looks like the back-up story -- about Petra, the girl who can control the Earth -- *is* the origin of Krakoa. HE WAS A CHICK ALL ALONG, DUDE! DUDE!

rabideyemovement

20:05 / 18.11.05

I was thinking Petra could be one member of a forgotten X-Men team, sent to rescue the original X-team, but ended up getting squashed. Prof assembles a new team, and wipes a few minds so noone remembers the first rescue mission (except Moira). That would make Xavier an utter bastard for sure.
Funny that her ghost must be real now. Banshee sees it, and Xavier spoke to her ghost on Genosha.

rabideyemovement

20:06 / 18.11.05

I do like your theory of Petra=Krakoa.

Matthew Fluxington

20:51 / 18.11.05

I think it's just hard for different artists to stick with a consistent version of the Beast in general. Fine by me.

I was thinking that the Decimation is in some way an obvious excuse to reverse Chuck Austen's secondary mutations for the character he wrote - when Iceman inevitably gets his powers back, he'll be able to go back to being a human, and though I don't know what's up with Archangel, but I'm sure they'll get rid of his healing blood.

21:05 / 18.11.05

Or, Warren will just get tired of the idea of cutting himself open all the time. Learn the healing blood has some bad and random side-effect. Find out that mutants can, indeed, get AIDS and that he, in fact, has. Followed by Northstar kicking into a routine, every time Archangel goes by: "Oh, mutants can't get AIDS, I mean, puhleaze that's a gay thing! Everybody knows you have to be gay! And there are no gay mutants! I mean, I'm a mutant, I'm THE MUTANT and I am not gay! Not even a little bit. Not with Jean-Paul in the shower, after a Danger Room session, for the finest forty-seven minutes of my life! No."

21:10 / 18.11.05

Your theory is just as good, though. Huggles all around.

rabideyemovement

15:06 / 19.11.05

When it comes to the Beast, I prefer feline to ape. I love the mullet and stache look he wears these days. He reminds me of my college physics professor.
And it's a good thing that Iceman lost his powers. They desperately need to dial back his abilities after Austen went overboard with them. I've always though that he surrounded himself with ice as opposed to actually being made of ice. Secondary mutation blah blah blah? I don't know. But if you've ever read Iceman's origin, you'll note that Xavier did alot of mind-erasing back then, even wiping some of Bobby Drake's memories. See my Dark Genesis theory above.
Has warren ever used his healing abilities except for that one issue? That was out of the blue!

15:36 / 25.11.05

I'm having a problem figuring how Krakoa involves some massive betrayal on the part of Xavier. It was an evil living island. Would anyone honestly care if it was shot into space. Would that be cause to erase peoples' memories?

In the beginning, did you get the impression that the big bad in space possessed the body of one of the astronauts, or that the release in energy simply allowed him to recreate his own dormant body (or something). If he had possessed a body of one of the astronauts, why would he expect Cyclops to recognize him?

The gist I got from the issue (which may just be redirection) is that Xavier recruited one additional X-Man around the time of Giant Size X-Men #1. Something went wrong, he got rid of him and erased everyone's memory.

04:01 / 26.11.05

you may be right. krakoa is starting to seem a little fanboy masturbatory to me. the story suggests this guy may be a former x-man who xavier erased from memory.

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