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What Comic Film Do You Want To See?

 
  

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Mario
22:36 / 15.11.05
Wait. Jack Kirby invented He-Man and Skeletor? If that's even remotely true, that's the greatest thing I've ever heard.

Sort of...the movie with Dolph Lundgren was partially inspired by the New Gods.
 
 
This Sunday
22:41 / 15.11.05
'Masters of the Universe', the live action film with the muscley fellow who's smarter than he looks and Dracula-cum-Quilty, had far more in common with Kirby's 'New Gods' material than with 'He-Man'. This was intentional; hence, the McGuffin of 'metrons' and all. He-Man/Orion, Skeletor/Darkseid, Blade/Kanto, Beastman/Kalibak, et cetera.
But, y'know, Kirby could have invented the 'He-Man' universe, too. I mean, how different is Prince Adam's world than that Double-bladed-sword-wielding blond barbarian of the future with the big hairy sidekick? That was Kirby, wasn't it?
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
00:31 / 16.11.05
Gotham Central: TV viewers love Police-Procedurals (Law and Order, CSI), moviegoers love superheroes (Spidey, Incredibles, Batman Begins), so throw the two together. The budget would be barely higher than an episode of CSI (unless they did the current episode, with the Rock of Eternity 'spoldering over Gotham), Batman is barely in it so it wouldn't step on the toes of the movies, they can do a No-Man's Land flashback multi-part episode...
Better yet, somebody in the 'Why star-trek sucks' thread had the idea of doing a Star-Trek show, set in the holodeck, and not revealing that it actually is a Star-Trek show- With G.C, they could sell it as 'Central', a generic cop show, play everything by-the-book for an episode of Law and Order, then in the last minute of the episode: two cops break down the door of what they think is a meth-lab and BLAMMO! Cop #1 gets iced by Mr. Freeze, Batman bursts through the skylight, knocks Freeze out cold and jumps off into the night. Graphics come up saying 'tune in next week for more GOTHAM Central'. It has a high enough WTF factor that everybody would be tuning in for the repeat showing and every subsequent episode.
 
 
grant
03:08 / 16.11.05
Hate. Except I think they kind of did, only changed the characters' names, with Matt Dillon and Kevin Bacon and, um, Bridget Fonda in it. It wasn't as good as Hate. I can't even remember the name.

Did they make a Little Nemo movie?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
03:13 / 16.11.05
grant- I believe they did. As I recall it wasn't bad, but wasn't... dreamy enough.
 
 
grant
03:23 / 16.11.05
Yeah, he'd have to keep waking up in the middle.

I think I'd pay good money to see a close adaptation of the Neal Adams Green Arrow/Green Lantern team-up, which was really a look at America with a lot of rapping between the kids and the man so they could all see where the other one was coming from, you dig?

But I'd definitely get excited over a lurid Rogan Gosh movie. It seems like it'd need swirling colored lights and a scene with Peter O'Toole in it somewhere, but still.
 
 
This Sunday
04:43 / 16.11.05
Sebastian O. The Movie. With Leo DiCaprio and Carey Elwes. Directed by either Bernard Rose or that guy who did 'Armeggedon'. Or both.
Aw, c'mon... Why not?
 
 
Evil Scientist
07:13 / 16.11.05
The Swimming In Blood (vampire infection in Mega-City 1's Aquatraz prison) story from 2000ad ages ago would make an entertainingly mindless action thriller.

Oh and let me just say:

Seaguy. Terry Gilliam. Seaguy. Terry Gilliam. Seaguy. Terry Gilliam.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
10:07 / 16.11.05
"the audio play is another medium we haven't explored which might work well with things with a preexisting and strong visual style"

Radio 4 did a Batman play called "The Lazarus syndrome" about (jesus) 12 years ago. As I remember it was very atmospheric. I might even still have it on cassette somewhere. They did a Superman adaptation as well but I seem to recall that not being as good. Probably because I'm not much of a fan of ol' Supes.

I'll shut up before I get too threadrotty but, yeah, I think Radio is a very good medium for things that have "strong visual style". Going all the way back to The Shadow serials of the 'forties.

Although, on topic, I'd love to see a Luther Arkwright movie. That would be smashing.
 
 
_Boboss
10:17 / 16.11.05
radio 1 had a very long-running (well, a whole summer, five minutes a weekday) batman slot in the afternoon for a bit back there too - the complete knightfall saga I think. i'd like to hear that again, as i remember it being rather atmospheric and batmanny, but can't really remember the technique they used - was there like a heavy narrator, was it dialogue-led... ?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:20 / 16.11.05
Unfortunately most of the comics I want to see turned into movies are purely for my - and a small set of others - benefit, and would probably neither sell to, nor be comprehendable easily by, a mainstream big audience.
'Zenith', 'Marvel Boy', 'Planetary', 'Enigma', 'X-Statix', or even 'Transmetropolitan' simply require too much specialist awareness... or a willingness to let things be interpreted on the fly, as they come, without worrying about how you're supposed to interpret them.


As ever, the intelligence of "a mainstream big audience" is being massively underestimated, and the complexity of the material in question overstated. To pick the two obvious examples: Marvel Boy is essentially a big shiny action movie with lots of CGI already: the pretty, sexy kids in tight clothes defeat the evil megacorporations and bad parents while running up walls and shooting big guns - things go BOOM! Transmetropolitan has a perfectly simple pitch: he's a foul-mouthed, drug-addled journalist who uncovers a massive conspiracy, all in the future - it's All The President's Men meets Fear & Loathing on the set of Bladerunner. There's no guarantee either of these films would be any good - mind you, in the case of the latter, neither were large chunks of the comic - but that would be a failure of execution, not because the comics you like are too advanced for the masses.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
10:39 / 16.11.05
The Radio 4 Batman was completely dialogue led, as I recall, with loads of dialogue taken directly from various Batman comics. "Something sucks the stale air and hisses" I remember being delivered particularly well.

Takes me back to a time when I used to read Batman comics into my tape recorder at home. I hope I still don't have any of those tapes. Although if I don't...who does?
 
 
Ulysses Lazarus
11:34 / 16.11.05
I'd love to see a proper version of Swamp Thing- trippy, metaphysical, cosmic in scope, green and with appearances by Arcane and Constantine. Also, while we're at it, a good version of Constantine would be nice.

Ultimate Fantastic Four? Death of Superman? Joe Fixit? Doctor Strange? Silver Surfer?

Really, there's a ton that would make BANK. Altho I generally have a much higher opinion of the public's intelligence than the good folks over at Marvel and in the Hollywood...
 
 
This Sunday
11:34 / 16.11.05
With my examples, I was not inferring intelligence, but awareness. Marvel Boy had a significant allusion/birdwatching factor. 'X-Statix', 'Enigma', and 'Zenith' all require some foundation in comics and comics lore, to give a lot of the parody/allusion/wish-fulfillment material its strength and backing.
'Transmet' just had too much randomy random future bits, and if you look at whatever played in your theatre in the last two years, or in fact the history of speculative fiction in general... the most massy of mass audience's want a one-note production to their speculative fictions. At least, that's what they want in a first salvo. The H.G. Wells mode... that he eventually broke with things like 'The Sleeper Wakes' which, while enormously superior to his earlier, one-note works (entirely in my opinion), is far less remembered.
Actually, 'The Sleeper Wakes' and Transmet fit nicely side-by-side on many things. But that's not for here.
What I mean is that specialist background info... combined with things that get wierder than weird... almost universally kill a mass audience. And if you shave off the fun little things... yes, Transmet becomes 'All the President's Men' as reinterpretted by Hunter Thompson, played out in a pornographic Alphaville, directed by a random French New Wave enthusiast.
 
 
Quantum
17:27 / 16.11.05
(Johnny)...Alpha is voiced by Simon Pegg. No, honest.
Haus

...it's coming pink..! I must have this cultural artefact or die. Now I want to see the spoof film of Strontium Dog with Pegg as Johnny Alpha and Nick Frost as Wulf Sternhammer, fuck Zenith in his stupid arse.
 
 
Quantum
17:28 / 16.11.05
...and, parsing that slightly differently, I'd love to see Nick Frost as Wulf Sternhammer fuck Zenith in his stupid arse.
 
 
tickspeak
18:40 / 16.11.05
Obviously Quentin Tarantino's next project needs to be a Heroes For Hire movie featuring Power Man and Iron Fist. The 70s, kung fu, and blaxploitation...I mean, he was basically grown in a lab to make this movie.
 
 
Benny the Ball
18:45 / 16.11.05
I think that there is a link to them on the 2000ad website, as I vaguely remember finding them somewhere there - if not it was a bbc link - let me check, hmmm

2000ad audio adventures

there you go
 
 
Bed Head
21:27 / 16.11.05
How many non-comics readers would "get" anything about Phase III?

Well, okay: all the comic in-jokes in Phase III probably couldn’t be easily translated for a non-nerd audience. But Phase I? Perfect for a movie. Sexy boy + super-nazi + Big Fight at either end, with plenty of snarky pop jokes inbetween. Also: spoilt-looking 80s pop git Nathan Moore would have made an ideal Zenith, but I suppose he’s too old now, what with the passing of time and all. Stupid time.

short of covering people's profiles with Lego bricks, how would you recreate the look of Carlos Ezquerra's black and white work?

Ah. Yes. But! looking at the *far superior* Simon Harrison Strontium Dog, there’s actually a really strong Chris Cunninghamesque, Aphex Twin-videoy sort of vibe about it all. Seriously: everyone has stretchy Aphex Twin faces when Harrison draws them - I think we may well have found one of Cunningham's primary sources for all those award-winning videos. And it’s not really part of the classic Strontium Dog series, granted - that was kinda All About the Johnny-Wulf double-act - but this later stuff could still make for a rather fab adaption. Feral, albino kids beating up policemen in the Milton Keynes ghetto, Johnny Alpha using his ELECTRO-NUX to beat the corpse of his best friend back to death, then being crucified by his dad. Good stuff.


The casting of the Neal Adams Green Arrow would be interesting. I’m trying to think of an actor with the range to be able to HANDLE lines like these:

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...Matthew McConaughey, perhaps? I hear he can do anything. Dude, what kind of accent does Oliver Queen have anyway?
 
 
Krug
06:26 / 17.11.05
Seaguy by Grant Morrison, Cameron Stewart and whoever else as an animated film. I don't really want to see any comic made into a film unless the original creators are adapting it or actively involved in the process.

David Boring with Daniel Clowes and Peter Weir maybe.

We3 directed by Mamoru Oshii is a fucking brilliant idea Scientist.

Batman Year One by Darren Aronofsky and Frank Mill...oh wait. Never mind.

Berlin by Jason Lutes and Paul Thomas Anderson.
 
 
Shrug
19:49 / 17.11.05
But I'd definitely get excited over a lurid Rogan Gosh movie. It seems like it'd need swirling colored lights and a scene with Peter O'Toole in it somewhere, but still.

This was one of the first things that came to my mind too. Although I thought perhaps if it could be adapted as a feature length animation. I mean the premise of Rogan Josh in of itself is fantastic but I think what really enthused me about the strip was the art work. Using the actual comic book art as a template for the visual style of the movie would be fanfuckingtabulous. But I feel that a great justice could be done to the original strip even if made in the style of something like Waking Life or Spirited Away.
 
 
grant
20:58 / 17.11.05
I was actually thinking (in those critical seconds after hitting "Post Reply" before the actual transaction goes through) that Waking Life-style animation over video would be ideal for a Rogan movie. Shifting outlines with eye-splitting color combinations.

Bedhead: Dude, what kind of accent does Oliver Queen have anyway?

He's from Seattle, so he'd probably talk like Kurt Cobain.

Did anyone here ever read that brilliant couple columns on the old Cheeks the Toy Wonder site where Unca Cheeks wrote this alternate history where 1930s Hollywood started making movie serials out of comic books using A-list actors? I only remember Laurence Olivier as the Golden Age Hawkman, but I remember the whole thing filling me with joy. It was the illustrations that sold it.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
05:12 / 18.11.05
But grant, Olivier was the Golden Age Hawkman. If he'd gone on the radio and said he was, all the badguys would've blown up Hollywood... like I plan to do.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
06:47 / 18.11.05
Well, okay: all the comic in-jokes in Phase III probably couldn’t be easily translated for a non-nerd audience. But Phase I? Perfect for a movie. Sexy boy + super-nazi + Big Fight at either end, with plenty of snarky pop jokes inbetween. Also: spoilt-looking 80s pop git Nathan Moore would have made an ideal Zenith, but I suppose he’s too old now, what with the passing of time and all. Stupid time.

It would need filling out with the backstory from Phase II, I think, but this could make a great movie -- affectionately mocking of its 80s milieu. Shame Matt Goss is also too old for the title character.

It's surprising, in fact, now that GM is such a major comic-book brand, that Zenith has received so little attention; you can't even buy the original story unless you want to spend £25 a book on ebay.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
07:43 / 18.11.05
I second the 'Heroes for Hire' pitch. I actually think it would benefit from a lack of profanity too. I want to hear Luke Cage use te word 'everlovin' as often as possible.
Equally I think DC's massively underrated 'Hero Hotline' series from the 80's would work a treat. Z-grade superfolk doing the jobs that the JLA couldn't be arsed with. Plenty of room for fun there.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
09:55 / 18.11.05
I think I vaguely remember that. Did it ever get a Brit reprint (was it in Zones, or something like that)?

Sounds a bit "Mystery Men"-ish.

Anyone else think a Jonah Hex movie would be pretty tootin'?
 
 
Haus of Mystery
10:26 / 18.11.05
Only if it was set in the future. And starred Gary Busey as Hex...
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
10:42 / 18.11.05
Voodoo Bullshit, MacReady...

Sorry, been waiting all day to get that reply in.
 
 
grant
14:21 / 18.11.05
The casting of the Neal Adams Green Arrow would be interesting.

Neal Patrick Harris (Doogie Howser) as GA, Wil Wheaton (Ensign Crusher) as GL.

It would be a dream.

Either that or Woody Harrelson and Bruce Campbell. But I really think the first two would be able to sell the whole "youth culture" angle of that story.
 
 
This Sunday
15:32 / 18.11.05
I was gonna write 'Woody Harrelson', too. Seems to fit. I would be quite amused with a CG-puppet Kurt Cobain as Green Arrow, though.
GL? Who's that... who can be fearless, honest, straight-lace supercop who later goes genocidal? Christopher Walken or Timothy Dalton as Hal Jordan? Twenty years ago?
Now...?
 
 
Aertho
16:06 / 18.11.05
GL: Hal


GL: John


GL: Guy


GL: Kyle
 
 
Jack Fear
17:47 / 18.11.05
Did anyone here ever read that brilliant couple columns on the old Cheeks the Toy Wonder site where Unca Cheeks wrote this alternate history where 1930s Hollywood started making movie serials out of comic books using A-list actors?

Ah, Cheeks, though gone you are not forgotten...

That particular series of columns from the late, lamented Toy Wonder site are archived here... sans images, I fear, but lovely nonetheless.

What's great about Cheeks's choices is how inevitable they seem. Jimmy Stewart as Wesley Dodds Sandman? Obvious in retrospeect. Robert Mitchum as Wildcat? How could it have been anyone else? And Hedy Lamarr as Wonder Woman was particularly inspired.

Prescient piece, too... Look at the penultimate paragraph of page 3. Remember, this was written before either HELLBOY or SIN CITY was even optioned for film—and at least one of Cheeks's "what if"s (kinda) came true...
 
 
Quantum
18:11 / 18.11.05
there you go

I Heart Benny the Ball!
 
 
Planet B
20:36 / 18.11.05
Evil Scientist: Gilliam doing Seaguy would be fantastic, but I'd watch almost anything he'd make.

I've long wanted to see American Flagg! as a movie... hell, it could even be an HBO series if done well (sorry, for my money, you need to keep the cheesecake factor).

The problem with a lot of the movies that have been made recently is that, well, they're movies and the business of movie making has become something that is highly averse to taking risks which most of the really good suggestions here would obviously require.

I mean, who wouldn't want to see a Daredevil movie that was actually faithful to the Miller-era Daredevil (and that didn't have some punkass playing the lead). But even with the right people, it seems like the corporate media behemoths take over and drain whatever life was in the source material to begin with. But the art is being taken out of film to such a degree that such projects are but a pipe dream. A couple more from my pipe:
Simonson-era Thor
Szienciewicz-era New Mutants
 
 
tickspeak
20:52 / 18.11.05
The Coen Bros. should make David Boring.
 
  

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