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Best SNES games ever!

 
  

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ZF!
18:47 / 27.09.05
I've just got a pocket SNES emulator working on my PDA, now I'm just wondering what were the best games for that system? The general consensus on the web seems to be:

Chrono Trigger
Zelda 3
Super Mario RPG
Final Fantasy 5&6

I've played Chrono Trigger (emulated) before and loved it, but apart from rpg's what else was good?

What would you consider the best of the best on the snes?

Z
 
 
Shrug
19:18 / 27.09.05
Contra 3: The Alien Wars also called Super Probotector: Alien Rebels would be my recommendation.
A prime example of the arcadey shooter genre. It succeeds in being both entertainingly manic and suprisingly fun all at once. Both the boss and level design was incomparable then and still holds up now. It even enjoyably remains a visual treat today, IMHO at least. Everything you need to know is in the link in anycase. If you get it let me know what you think.
 
 
iamus
19:52 / 27.09.05
Well, your list is spot on so far, but...

Super Mario World is an obvious omission. One of, if not the greatest platformers ever made. Its a piece of history, and if you've never played it before then it'll last you ages. No Snes collection is complete without it.

Mario Kart. Not a whole lot to say. It's another classic. Fantastic tight handling. A hell of a lot of fun. Even though (I'm assuming) you won't be able to 2-player, the time trail mode should keep you occupied.

Zombies (or Zombie ate my neighbors). A rare (for the time) non point 'n' click Lucasarts game. Done in a horror B-movie style, it's a top-down, isometric exploring shooter. Hard as nails come the later levels and lots of replay value. Makes me laugh too.

Super Metroid is another absolute fucking essential. I don't think there's been anything quite like this game before or since. It's a sprawling platforming adventure, dripping with atmosphere. So much to do and see. The amount that you can experiment by combining the skills you can aquire is ridiculous. This would probably be my SNES Desert Island Cart.
 
 
semioticrobotic
20:23 / 27.09.05
Aside from RPGs?

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time
For side-scrolling, beat-'em-up action, it does get much better (see also: Final Fight). Plus, you can beat it in less than a half-hour, so it's a good time-killing game that requires little cognitive expenditure.

Super Punch Out!
Simply a classic Nintendo title that's addicting as hell. And it has unlockable secrets, which is a sure-fire indication of addictive gameplay.

RPGs included? Don't forget Earthbound -- perhaps the best RPG I've played on the platform.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:04 / 27.09.05
Can you edit to include reasons, please guys? List threads don't really achieve a huge amount.
 
 
iamus
21:38 / 27.09.05
Yeah, sorry. I kind of thought that, but I got lazy.
 
 
Triplets
22:52 / 27.09.05
Legend of Zelda
It's a top-down action adventure spanning two worlds (long before Soul Reaver did it). You play Link, a plucky peasant boy spurred into battle by the cries of a kidnapped princess. The game is huge, tons of quests and side-quests and an interesting mythology tying all of it together.

Control-wise it's pretty much up-down-left-right mash mash mash the B button. You putter Link around for the first few hours and as the game expands from town to cities to countries to worlds you gain more expansive forms of movement (such as a little bird that carries you off after a blow on your magic flute!)
 
 
Axolotl
07:55 / 28.09.05
Remembering these makes me want to buy an old SNES. I loved MarioKart & SuperMarioLand as a nipper. Do you reckon Ebay is my best source?
 
 
ZF!
11:15 / 28.09.05

Ah thanks people that's great. Just what I was hoping for. I went through a phase a few years back where I was playing a lot of emulated SNES and Genesis stuff on my PC, then lost everything when my it crashed. Brings back my memories of those games.

Sorry for starting a list thread, I know these can be a bit thin on conversation. I am quite partial to RPG's (Fallout series all time favoutite rpg) and there seems to be an abundance of these on the SNES. I also love platformers, (Tombi/Tomba being my all time favourite platform title), so Super Mario World, and Super Metroid (always wondered about this title) should be fun to check out. I've played MarioKart on the GBA and a few Kart clones like Speed Freaks on the PS1, but they seem to be more fun when you're actually up against someone instead of the AI.

I'll definitely check all the titles you guys have recommended, I'll report back here on what I thought of them. :-)

Mr Phox, I was going to suggest CEX for a SNES console, they're usually good for retro games/consoles, but you're in Scotland and that's the one place in the UK they haven't extended to. So yeah EBay is probably your best bet. There is always the option of using an emulator. :-)

Thanks again

Z
 
 
The Strobe
11:32 / 28.09.05
Gamestation will have one at a passable price, but eBay might be a better bet.

I'm going to stick in a curveball here for...

Uniracers.

It's utterly fucking brilliant. It is a side-on racing game where you are a sentient, rider-less unicycle.

That's it. You basically "go" with the d-pad, but also can adjust your tilt; you have a button to spin around your y-axis, and a button to spin on your z, so you can do tricks - halfway with the z-axis gets you a tabletop. Meanwhile, you bomb around these loopy, weird tracks at crazy rates, trying to beat the computer player. Or your friends.

It's kind of approaching what a 2D Sonic racing game would be, but better. Brilliant, brilliant fun.

Oh, and do check out Starfox, which lots of button-mashing flat-shaded fun.
 
 
The Strobe
11:46 / 28.09.05
Oh, and of course, the two Mode 7 classics: Pilotwings and F-Zero. The latter is a whizz-fast futuristic racer, the former a calm, abstract, flight-game where you potter about flying jetpacks, autogyros, and parachutes. Lots of skill involved, very lovely to play. Might have some trouble emulating it, thought.
 
 
admiral sausage
12:27 / 28.09.05
For buying a second hand SNES, personally I would look out in those cash convertors/generators type shops, they sell old consoles for next to nothing, I bought a Snes for £5, saw one in games shop in Bristol for £30. Or try some car boot sales.

My best Snes games:

Street fighter 2 turbo, 2 D fighting perfection. Spent untold hours on that when I should have been outside, drinking cider in the park and shouting at girls.

Shadow Run, bloody great RPG, got really far in it but somehow managed to sell or use some important key item, looking for a copy so I can finally finish it.

Mario Cart, best multiplayer game. ever.

Legend of Zelda, all ready discussed.

And to a lesser extent (for me anyway), Super Castlevania and Super Mario World (still play this now and again)
 
 
Spatula Clarke
13:22 / 28.09.05
Good recommendations so far. You might want to get the Super Mario Collection, or whatever it was called, instead of SMW, as that's got all the console Mario games up to and including SMW.

R-Type III is one of the best shooters ever made. It holds up to the series' high standards, despite being the first console-exclusive version. Scaling and rotation used to liven the levels up significantly - the first one has you razzing through an exploding structure, the level structure spinning about and keeping you on your toes, bosses that zoom in and out of the back/foreground.

Difficult, like most R-Type games, but once you learn to embrace that difficulty it's hard to let go. And it's never unfairly hard - you'll only ever lose lives through your own mistakes.

Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius. Got to admit that I've not played the SNES version of this - I've got the Saturn conversion, but as I understand it, they're largely similar. I've just tried it out in an emulator, but my joypad's bust, so I didn't get very far.

Not often that games do funny well, but Parodius always manages to hit the right note. Lots of jokes for people who know Gradius/Nemesis, Salamander/Life Force and Konami games in general. The Gradius powerup system is still great, but I've always prefered this series - it's not as dry, it's got far more personality, the challenge feels fairer. There's added challenge with each level hiding a set of bonus points, with the game keeping a check on how many you've managed to find in all the times you've played it.

Actually, all the Parodius games are great. Jikkyou's the best of the three that made it to the SNES, but you might also want to try Parodius and Gokujou Parodius (Fantastic Journey in the US and UK). Lots more info on them here.

Yoshi's Island. Personally, I prefer this to SWM. It's still one of the most gorgeous games you can play - nothing else has ever come close to its fat felt tip backgrounds, nor its story book intro with wind-up music box soundtrack. It's more linear than SMW, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Bosses are all amazing - getting swallowed by a giant frog, being chased around the moon by a huge blackbird. It also offers more in terms of hidden challenge than SMW.

Phox> You should be able to pick up a second hand SNES from plenty of places. As well as those alredy mentioned, you might want to try indie game stores (if they sell used games, they're very likely to have the consoles to go with them) or car boot sales.

I'd definitely recommend thinking about getting yuorself a US SNES, though, rather than a PAL UK one. My heart breaks every time I turn my PAL console on and end up reminded of how little concern publishers had for the European market at the time - games were often destroyed by poor PAL conversions (I always hear how Stunt Race FX is a great game, but the PAL version, at least, has a frame rate so jerky and a game screen area so small that I find it unplayable). The US hardware's pretty ugly, but it'll allow you to play both US and Japanese games without having to piss about with convertor carts - again, the best place for the games is probably eBay.
 
 
Proinsias
18:56 / 28.09.05
Ahh nostalgia, wonderful

Street Fighter 2 Turbo

I was getting very worried reading the thread, this game took far to long to appear. There is nothing quite like jeering at friends, you know who you are, waving a fist in their faces and generally gloating after tapping one button relentlessly as E Honda while they try in vein to battle you with skill. One of the few games a first timer can be jammy enough to beat a seasoned pro. Set on highest difficulty level this is also one of the most infuriating games I can recall, I had to endure 7 years of bad luck in my teens due to a certain computer controlled Mr Vega.

Super Bomberman

This may not be the greatest multiplayer on the snes (Mario Kart/SF2T) but with four people 1, screen, no dividers and into the dawn gameplay it's surely a contender.

Mortal Kombat 3

I get the feeling I may encounter some resistance to this choice, but what the hell. Blood, gore, nasty ass fatalities, huge combos and a lot of unnecessary stupid crap. God it was good
 
 
iamus
19:38 / 28.09.05
You might want to get the Super Mario Collection, or whatever it was called, instead of SMW, as that's got all the console Mario games up to and including SMW.

-klaxxons-

Don't listen to him! He's talking out his arse!

Super Mario All-Stars has all the Mario games released on the NES, even The Lost Levels, which was the true sequel to Super Mario Bros (harder game running under pretty much the same engine) previously only released in Japan. It doesn't have Mario World though. Unless he means some other Mario collection. In which case I'll sound like a bit of a tool.

There is nothing quite like jeering at friends, you know who you are

Bring it. I'll hammer you six ways to Sunday, boyo.
 
 
iamus
19:49 / 28.09.05
Beware with Yoshi's Island though. It can be tricky under emulation. I've had it freeze up more than once. Still definately worth a shot for all the reasons given above. My favourite bit is the enemy that makes you "drunk". The entire level undulates like a wave, and Yoshi slips and slides into the peaks and troughs.

Did anyone play the N64 update, Yoshi's Story? Was it any good.
 
 
The Strobe
21:14 / 28.09.05
Meludreen: shortly after the original Mario All Stars release, there was another release (only in bundles) which also put SMW on the same cart. He's not talking out of his arse, I'm afraid...
 
 
iamus
22:27 / 28.09.05
Thusly, I am a tool.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:59 / 28.09.05
Indeed.

Yoshi's Story is... alright. They changed the visual style, so that the levels looked like they were made out of different types of material - there's a patchwork cloth one, a wooden one, a rubber balloons one, a metal one - but they didn't manage to do that for every level in the game, which suggested a lack of care. The sprites were all prerendered, which made them look a bit generic. Certainly nowhere near as affecting as Island.

It always seemed a bit daft, because they got it bang on with the level select screen - took the form of a pop-up book, had Yoshis humming away in the background. The only time when the title really felt like part of the same series as Island and meant that the game part was even more disappointing, because you'd finish a level and be reminded of what could have been.

The game part was fun. That's about it. Fun. Far, far too easy. They took Baby Mario out, so there was none of the sweaty panic from the previous game. Bosses were insultingly easy.

Its fans would argue that it was a score attack game, so difficulty shouldn't be an issue. It's true, but only to an extent. The big problem with that is the way the scoring worked. To finish a level, you had to collect thirty pieces of fruit. If you got to the 'end' of one without that amount, the level cycled back on itself and you departed from the right hand of the last screen, only to reappear on the left of the first. Once the thirty fruit were collected, the level ended, regardless of where you were positioned. The trick to high scoring was to find the thirty melons that were hidden in each level, ignoring all other fruit. Unfortunately, a lot of them were hidden in the background and could only be found by having Yoshi sniff the areas, which meant that you ended up walking forwards a pace, sniffing, walking forwards another pace, sniffing again, and so on, throughout the entire level. Of every level in the game.

It's a laugh for a while. Painfully inferior to the game that spawned it, though.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
04:20 / 29.09.05
I second Earthbound! A weird game, but very, very cool.

Also, don't forget the Super Mario RPG. That was a fun game. Just...lots of fun.

The Secret of Mana and The Secret of Evermore were both pretty nifty. "Or else Evermore will be nevermore forevermore!"
 
 
charrellz
05:28 / 29.09.05
I second The Secret of Mana. My all time favorite game. Made greater because it has multi-player co-op.
 
 
Baz Auckland
21:08 / 29.09.05
Although Mario Kart was one of the greatest SNES games, I had trouble playing it on the PC later... I found it hard to get those essential sliding turns with the keyboard.
 
 
Mouse
22:33 / 29.09.05
Puyo Puyo - one of the best falling-block puzzle games around, possibly.
 
 
iamus
23:27 / 29.09.05
Sorry 'bout that Randy. Don't know if it came off as cheeky and scampish as intended. It certainly was wrong, however.

If you all like Secret of Mana (Which is a great RPG) you should try to get Seiken Densetsu 3, which is its sequel (Secret of Mana being Seiken Densetsu 2, Seiken Densetsu 1 being a Game Boy game). SD 3 only came out in Japan, so you'll need to get a translation patch from here.

SD3 is like Mana to the power of ten, the way a good sequel should be. At the beginning of the game you have to pick a party of three from a possible six characters, each with their own standard RPG traits. Each has their own startup, though the body of the mission will be pretty similar no matter who you choose. However, the story's main boss will change depending on who you pick as your primary character.

There's also a branching level-up system. At one point in the game, each character will be able to choose one of two different character classes to change to, each having their own perks and attacks. At another point you will have a further two choices, which will be different, depending on what you picked the last time.

Flammie's back too. And zhe was always much cooler than any fucking airship.


All this reminds me of a very stoned year a while ago, back when I had practically no responsibilities and had just bought my own Mac. I waded through the best the SNES catalogue had to offer, one after another. It was a hell of a lot of fun and a fantastic education.
 
 
Trijhaos
13:42 / 30.09.05
I'm trying to stay away from rpgs, especially considering most of the good ones have already been mentioned.

Terranigma It's an overhead action-rpg game in the style of Zelda. You know the deal, you go around performing different quests so that you can save the girl/world/cute little animals. The interesting thing going on is that as you save people and cute little lions, the world changes. As you start out the world is barren, but as more people are saved, towns are built and evolve.


The Lost Vikings . It's a side scroller with puzzle elements. You have three vikings and the goal of each level is to get all three to the other end. The thing is each viking has a different set of skills and you have to use all three to get through the level. You can't just go through the levels hacking and slashing things.

BlackThorne It's Prince of Persia with a shotgun. No seriously, that's probably the best description I can give. If you've ever played PoP, then you'll be right at home with the way this game plays.

Mega Man X series . It's Mega Man what more can I say? You take your happy little blue android assassin through the levels as he runs, jumps, and shoots his way through hordes of poor innocent robots, until he gets to the boss of the level and then brutally slaughters said boss so he can get a sparkly new toy. It's your basic side scroller and you can't really have too many side scrollers, can you?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:23 / 30.09.05
Sorry Mel. I meant to link that "indeed" to a photo of my All Stars cart with the word KLAXXON printed across it to show that I wasn't being entirely serious there, but forgot.
 
 
Triplets
15:19 / 30.09.05
Mortal Kombat 3

I get the feeling I may encounter some resistance to this choice



Dude, no resistance here. Mortal Kombat 3 got me through sixth-form.
 
 
robertk
00:53 / 02.10.05
I think Blackthorne hasn't been mentioned yet. I heard it was basically a Flashback (?) rip-off, a game which I've never played, but still - great dark and macabre and futuristic fun, complete with ugly warthog-aliens, sinister dungeons, rainy forest village and hovering platforms.

As for Mortal Kombat - I remember what a scandal MK2 was here when it came out. I was 12 and of course I had to have it. And it was great! Soon the guys at school would've seperated in Street Fighter fans and those fewer ones who favoured the bloody alternative.
All those afternoons, figuring out the fatalities, that expensive imported games mag on our knees.. Absolute classic!

Starfox was my first SNES game ever, and therefore has a special place in my heart. But besides that it is a pretty good game, although the inevitable comparison to its younger brother on 64 kinda blurs the image nowadays. Ribbit-ribb-ribb-ribb. Enemy incoming.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
18:58 / 02.10.05
Mega-Man X WAS pretty good. Chill Penguin and all that. It was amusing. And a nice break from the classic "Wood-Man, Stone-Man, Fat-Man, Tall-Man, Toilet-Man" dynamic.

...plus Mega-Man could learn Streetfighter moves! How cool was that?
 
 
Tom DS
10:57 / 12.10.05
Tetris Attack
Best. Puzzle game. Ever.
The multiplayer mode is absolutely inspired and the small puzzle mode is brain crushingly difficult, in the best possible way.
 
 
ZF!
11:06 / 25.10.05
So far:

-I've made it through Puzzle Bobble, great fun, still playing that on VS mode
-Yoshi's Island, unfortunately had to quit halfway through as the emulator stopped showing game elements, I was enjoying it immensely though.
-tried Pilotwings and Uniracers, very bizarre games, couldn't get my head around them
Contra 3- Started it and it is fun, but it's proving difficult playing on a mini pda's buttons
-R-Type, currently playing and enjoying very much

thanks people
 
 
Krug
14:25 / 25.10.05
Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Country 2.

When they came out nothing prettier had been seen on 16 bit consoles and the stages were so wonderfully designed that nothing felt repetitve. The reason I had to get a SNES after being a Megadrive (Genesis in the US) guy.
 
 
Isadore
14:47 / 25.10.05
Terranigma is a fun action-style RPG with a good storyline and gorgeous music. You run about poking things with a spear and reviving the Earth. The plot twist is foreseeable, but still marvelous. There were creepy moments and tender moments. All in all, very satisfying.

Seiken Densetsu III was only released in Japan, but that's where emulators and translation teams come in. You get to choose a party of three out of six possible characters, with three different storylines which diverge completely at the end. Great replay value; I've beaten it at least three times and still play it occasionally (as there's one storyline I've not yet done).

Lufia II is a prelude to the original Lufia with much better graphics and controls; one of the first of the wave of 'pre-quels'. A puzzle-solving RPG. The Endless Dungeon (not technically endless, it only has 99 levels) is usually where I end up getting stuck; I've never actually finished the thing.

Romancing Saga 3 is another RPG that was only released in Japan. There are two fan-translations out, one of which is very good. Thirty or so playable characters, twelve of which are available as main characters and can be customized somewhat. It doesn't use a level system, instead giving out increased abilities after every battle in which said abilities were used. Pretty standard elemental storyline, but the various characters and play-styles involved are lots of fun.

... I like RPGs a little too much, apparently.
 
 
Andromedus
15:09 / 25.10.05
err linkie to the emulator ?
 
 
ZF!
16:19 / 25.10.05
Currently using this.
 
  

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