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Should I buy a Nintendo DS?

 
  

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Spatula Clarke
16:51 / 18.11.05
The worst of it is that surely most players will encounter that ending first, because of the way the drip-feed of new abilities and areas is paced. The second 'bad' ending has one character turn to another and say something along the lines of "well, I thought Soma might have done X before entering into this battle," which is a much more intelligent way of dealing with it.
 
 
Bear
13:38 / 21.11.05
I bought one this weekend partly due to the positive reviews given here and I'm loving it so far. I got it with Sonic Rush and Mario. Sonic is lots of fun Mario not so much I mainly bought for my other half who's a fan of the plumber, although I do love the little mini games and I imagine that more will appear as the game is opened up?

It's my first Nintendo purchase (well I did buy a GB colour that I didn't really play) and I've always been impressed with how much "fun" the games were on the previous systems and I imagine this will be no different.

I'm trying to work out what I should buy next for it... would a screen protector be a good idea? At the moment I'm being ultra careful but that's mainly because it's so shiny and new.

Warioware sounds like a must but it seems to be sold out on most online stores. So I'm thinking Yu-Gi-Oh might be my next buy.

Just wanted to share the DS love really and thank those singing it's praises enough to make me get one.

* How nice is it that they come already (slightly) charger, there's nothing more annoying than buying something and having to wait until you get home to play it *
 
 
rakehell
22:34 / 21.11.05
I also bought one over the weekend due to my pestering housemate who a) got his the day the came out; and b) bought Mario Cart the day it came out and wouldn't shut up about it.

So I have Mario Cart, Nintendogs, and Advance Wars. I also have a PSP and I have to say that for "fun", the DS wins hands down. It's not that I don't like the PSP games - Lumines is excellent - but from the moment I switched on Advance Wars it was game on!

Also, playing Mario Cart VS my housemate and also the rest of the world is unreal. And there's heaps of games that look excellent: Meteos, Lost in Blue, Another Code and on and on.
 
 
w1rebaby
22:49 / 21.11.05
Warioware Touched... I was late for work this morning because of that. Picked up the DS to put it in my bag and saw that it was still on. "Okay," says fridge, "I'll unpause it and quit." Twenty minutes later: "oh shit, maybe I should get going".

It's a completely fucking stupid game/series of games but, well, I suppose that I am completely fucking stupid, and enjoy ten second microgames involving the division of vegetables.
 
 
semioticrobotic
14:20 / 23.11.05
Just a heads-up for all US Target shoppers: From what I'm reading, Target stores will have Nintendo DS systems in titanium and blue for $99 this Christmas (that's what it says in the in-store-only catalog, anyway). Something of a steal, isn't it?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:31 / 24.11.05
Bear: I'm trying to work out what I should buy next for it... would a screen protector be a good idea?

For the top screen, yeah - I've got one and I'm glad of it (it's amazing how easily you can end up getting a deep scratch down a handheld screen even when cleaning it with a proper cloth).

The touchscreen, though, I wouldn't bother getting one for. They're impossible to stick on properly without trapping hundreds of air bubbles under them and they dull the screen's responsiveness, meaning that you need to press down on it harder, which makes the idea of a screen protector rather pointless in the first place. As long as you make sure that there's no dirt on the screen or on the tip of the stylus before using it, you'll be fine (and do make sure you use the stylus, *not* your fingers).

I got a new game for mine a couple of days ago that might just be the best on the machine: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan. It's a rhythm action game from the same people who developed Gitaroo Man, and it's fucking brilliant. The single best soundtrack ever - all J-pop takes on punkska, funkdisco and rockpop (torrent of all the original tracks here, highly recommended). The graphics are totally unique - cut-out manga comic books that move like Captain Pugwash and King Rollo. And it plays fantastically - you have to hit circles as they appear on the touchscreen in time with the music in order to get a group of leather-clad male cheerleaders to cheer people through their despair.

Your DS needs it.
 
 
semioticrobotic
23:58 / 25.11.05
As an addendum to my last post:

Target admits the $99 DS was a misprint. However, the company is going to honor the misprinted price until December 12. Here are the details.
 
 
semioticrobotic
13:06 / 08.12.05
After nearly four months since the thread began, I've gotten my DS! I took advantage of the Target catalogue misprint and got mine for $99. Only problem: it's in a different state. My SO picked it up for me because I couldn't get transport to a Target quickly enough. But rest assured, I'll be friend-ing you all over the holidays for some Mario Kart and Animal Crossing!
 
 
netbanshee
22:03 / 04.02.06
I've been contemplating a DS for my future and now that the DS lite appears to be rounding the corner sometime soon, I'm gonna wait for that badboy to come out. With Japanese units being around in a month's time, I'm curious if I should get my hands on an import or take on a wait and see attitude.
 
 
semioticrobotic
02:42 / 05.02.06
I'd wait until E3. Nintendo could make an announcement about DS lite availability (in places other than Japan) at that point.
 
 
bjrn
11:23 / 08.04.06
I was thinking about getting a Nintendo DS as well, until I saw the lite version, which looks so much better. Waiting to see if any news is revealed at the E3 sounds like good advice.

I saw this quite neat comparison (Youtube mirror) between the DS and the DS lite. And the same guy also made a part 2 (Youtube mirror) looking more at thickness and other small bits. One thing he mentioned was that the DS lite has sharp(ish) edges on the inside, although he said playing with it was quite comfortable, I wonder if it still would be after a longer gaming session. Other than that the lite seems better than the normal one in most ways; smaller, better looking, better screen.


There seem to be a lot of puzzle games being released for the DS, which is understandable because it's really suited for many of them. But I can't stop feeling I could make those games myself (or downloading someone else's creations, instead of paying for a cartridge). I was wondering, are there any DS owners here who've gotten non-cartridge games on their DSes and played with them?
 
 
semioticrobotic
13:09 / 08.04.06
You might not have to wait long, Bjrn. The DS might be coming to the States in May, and a worldwide release might not be far behind. That's the speculation, anyway.
 
 
netbanshee
14:51 / 12.06.06
**Figured this would be the best place to give a bump.**

Picked up a DS Lite yesterday morning at a local Target w/ a friend. There was one other person waiting to get in for one and I didn't see what kind of stock that they had since they didn't have floor displays out yet. I picked up The New Super Mario Bros., Mario Kart DS and Tetris DS to go along with the purchase.

Initial impressions... I really, really like the form factor. I had some experience with the original and this model feels much more carefully considered. It not 100% comfortable in bigger hands after extended periods of time, but you should be taking breaks here and there anyway. The screens are vibrant and colorful. The audio is surprisingly crisp.

I'm getting my head around the menu system and the friend code thing as well. Fairly intuitive. I was surprised how quick it is to set up a wifi connection and get to playing people. Anyone know if you can only access wifi system settings while having a wifi enabled cart in the unit? Also, are there any button combinations that can get you to the main menu instead of invoking a "system needs to shutdown dialog" and the powering up the unit?
 
 
mkt
08:33 / 27.06.06
I'll second that recommendation of the DS Lite.

The stylus and touch screen feel great - much more solid and intuitive than the original - and the screen brightness is a fantastic improvement, especially if you're planning on playing outdoors in the summer. Good stuff.
 
 
semioticrobotic
09:27 / 27.06.06
much more solid and intuitive than the original

Can you explain what you mean by "more intuitive"? I didn't think control got any better than the first iteration: You want the peaches? Touch the peaches. How does the new screen improve this?
 
 
mkt
11:13 / 27.06.06
It's satisfyingly un-fragile - you don't feel like there's any chance of scratching or damaging the screen through play, which allows you to use the stylus confidently and without thinking about it. The stylus is great, too - a little chunkier and thus more comfortable than the original, which again allows for more confident, intuitive use. I certainly didn't mean to imply that there was anything difficult about the original touch screen/stylus combo, but this is just so "right" - it genuinely feels like that holy grail of controllers, the one you forget you're using.
 
 
semioticrobotic
16:43 / 27.06.06
Ah, very interesting! Thanks for expanding on that. I want to sell my DS phat for proceeds toward a Lite (getting harder each day).
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
19:28 / 08.07.06
I'm all a-quiver with excitement.

Just bought a DS Lite (black) off eBay, complete with Metroid Prime: Hunter and Mario Kart DS for £130 including postage.

Can anyone tell me if there are any good RPG type games out for the DS yet? Also, is there a Zelda incarnation planned for the DS and if so, when?

Is Trauma Center worth buying?

Any other recommendations?

Am I asking too many questions?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:01 / 08.07.06
RPGs> There's a new Mario & Luigi, which I've not played but have heard isn't as good as the GBA original. Your DS can play GBA titles, so you might want to get that - it's great. There's a Wind Waker-style Zelda in the workls and due out at towards the end of this year. Also the GBA Zelda, Minish Cap. I got a lot out of that.

Trauma Centre> I've played bits and, again, thought they were great fun. Bought it for my sister, who's managed to get stuck because of a steep climb in difficulty a couple of hours in - lots of people have complained about this. Still well worth playing, if you've got the patience.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
17:28 / 04.08.06
I just upgraded to a lite via trading in a bunch of stuff (inc. my old DS) I hadn't played in ages so I could get some nice new things to play and I must say, the new model really is quite lovely.

I mean, besides being neater and those screens being super bright and vibrant and colourful - I really appreciate the new d pad and buttons, which just feel a lot more solid and robust than the previous incarnation.

I remember the first time I played on the original DS and being surprised at just how thin the buttons were - they were tiny! I'd never got that imnpression from pictures. But the slightly indented nature of the new top half allows the buttons and pad to be that bit more chunky, which just feels much better to me. The old pad carved my fingers up something rotten.

I got Metroid Hunters and Phoenix Wright along with the new model, although I've not really played much of either. Just a little play around with Metroid to see how it functions, and it seems alright if a bit awkward at first... looks lovely, mind. Phoenix Wright, on the other hand, is clearly hilarious and mad already and I love it.

OBJECTION!
 
 
semioticrobotic
17:33 / 04.08.06
Phoenix Wright, on the other hand, is clearly hilarious and mad already and I love it.

I smell a thread...
 
 
chaated
18:32 / 04.08.06
I just got Brain Games and let me say .. it rocks! DS is here to stay if you ask me. I'm also one of the proud owners of Electroplankton which I think is another fantastic "game".
 
 
COG
23:04 / 04.08.06
I love Electroplankton. When I first tried it, it seemed a bit shallow, but I've found myself really concentrating on playing some good sounds, and the results are much better than before.

Just bought a japanese copy of Meteos, and while good, I wish I could read all the sub menus etc. £10 was too much of a bargain but I may live to regret it.
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
21:59 / 08.08.06
I also enjoy Electroplankton. Bought the Japanese version off eBay for £4.00 complete with Electroplankton earphones, all because the vendor had spelled it 'Elektroplankton'. Which was nice.

I agree that at first you're wondering why on Earth you bought it but after playing around a wee bit you suddenly realise you've just passed an hour away pinging tiny fish off leaves.

It's a great way to relax.
 
 
Tim Tempest
15:41 / 09.08.06
Well, I'm on summer vacation, and on a trip to British Columbia, I made an impulsive decision and purchased a DS Lite.

My god.

I had no idea how much I missed playing on a Nintendo machine. I picked up New Super Mario Bros. and Brain Age for it, and I must say that both are awesome. I'm trying to figure out what titles to purchase next...Metroid PH sure is looking sweet...There's just something that seems so damned right about an FPS on the DS.

So, anyone care to reccomed some great games for Oddman? (I want to get into an addictive multiplayer game, as online gaming is a great love of mine). (And considering I've been out of the gameboy market for quite some time, are there any [CHEAP] GBA games that fellow Barbelithers would be reccomending? Someone already mentioned Zelda: The Minish Cap, and that looks pretty ace.

I'm still gushing over what a great buy my DS was. Honestly, I like PSP. I really do, but the main reason I went with the DS Lite over the PSP, (besides the wicked price), is that the DS just has games that are more fun.

And thats what matters.
 
 
semioticrobotic
19:00 / 09.08.06
Many have made great recommendations here, Oddman.
 
 
COG
13:10 / 28.11.06
Anybody picked up the DS browser yet? I'm definitely going to get it with my next wages. My in flat wifi is very unstable, so I shall be able to check my email down at the local cafe each morning. How cool.
 
 
Feverfew
08:46 / 18.03.07
So - I was wondering, about a brief reassessment of the Nintendo DS, via all those lovely people who have one on Barbelith.

I have a confession to make. My DS playing trailed right off once I had the largest house/shop/museum collections/catalogue completion ratio/fruit types on Animal Crossing - but that's mainly because I bought the DS to play AC. It was fun, for a while, but I had no way of knowing...

So I recently considered trading in the DS for something else - not sure what, but I was thinking 'well, I'm not using it' - but was talked out of it by my local Shop Owner, who passionately believes that the DS is nearly the best handheld console out there. After five minutes, I started to believe it too.

So, I'm curious; who out there is still playing / using their DS, and of you who are playing, what are you playing? I'm going to get back into the DS-playing-grind, and I'm thinking the way to do this is to exchange up to a DS lite; I'd rather have a system I use and a few less games (for now) than a system I don't use and lots of choices as to what I'm not playing.

So, to summarise; Who's still playing? What are you playing? And what are your recommendations for someone who is planning to be a Born Again player who'll only have Animal Crossing to start with - what games are the best/most recommended?
 
 
Sniv
13:41 / 18.03.07
I've had my ds for around a year now, and I'm still playing fairly regularly. The game that really does it for me is Tetris. I've been playing the original gameboy version since I was eight years old, and I bought this for my partner for her ds for christmas, although I think I've put in a fair few more hours than she has, I love it more than I thought possible. It's colourful and has lovely music, has more gamemodes than you can throw a dog at, none of which I've played, because the standard unlimited mode is just perfect gaming. Unlike the old version, you can spin forever, helping you to reach some ungodly good scores when you're in that familiar Tetris-zone. I'm still plugging away at that elusive 1,000,000 score, it's becoming a bit of a lifelong quest, I fear.

I'd also vote for the New Mario Bros game, it's a brilliant platformer, with enough challenge to keep you going, but easy enough that anyone can play it.

I'm currently really enjying Starfox Command. It's a bit like advance wars lite meets the N64 starfox, with great stylus controls and 8 seperate endings, which'll keep you busy for a while. It's a fun pick-up and shoot game, although I doubt it's one that you'll keep coming back to.

The new Zelda game does look really special though, and the minish cap is a perfect place to get those zelda-muscles warmed up again, it's a charming little (ha!) game, with a gentle challenge-curve and an addicting number of collect-quests and the like to keep you busy for at least a solid month.

And if you're just getting back into the Ninty-swing, I can heartily recommend all of the classic SNES ports available on the GBA for a walk down memory lane, especially the mario games, they're as great now as they always were, and are always fun for a dip. The two metroid games are also a lot of fun, Zero mission was my favourite, just because of the classic metroid-feel to the game, and it's sheer immense size. The only dud in this batch is Yoshi's Island, as it suffers from terrible, unforgivable slowdown in the latter stages of the game, rending it almost unplayable. Try Yoshi's Island DS if you liked the original, it's very faithful to the spirit of the original.
 
 
Sniv
13:49 / 18.03.07
Oh! And how can I forget Mario Kart?! It's amazing, easily my favourite out of all the versions to date, and the online play is great fun. Just make sure you get some ninja skills first.

Actually, with regards to online play, beware, it's mostly 50% full of the most scary-good (read: obsessive, no-life freaks - I'm not bitter, not at all...) you'll ever play against. They'll use every exploit, every mean and unfair cheap shot to make your experience a miserable one. Metroid, while a great idea in theory, is in reality dominated by exploit-abusing, ungodly good shooting psychos with unpronounceable names. The rest will disconnect is you start to beat them. Tetris likewise is populated by players so good you'll wonder if the DS is interfaced right into their brains. Mario kart is a mixed bag, I've had a lot of good races and a few exploiters (they call them snakers), but I've also noticed that as I've got better (and learned to snake a bit myself) I get a lot of people disconnecting when they start to play me, which is most annoying.

I love the idea of handhelds online, but the game needs to be extraordinarily well-balanced or non-competitive for it to really work it seems, which is a real shame.
 
 
Feverfew
18:25 / 20.03.07
Thank you for your advice; much appreciated.

In the end, I had a bit of a clear-out and exchanged a few bits and bobs for a white DS Lite with Electroplankton, and got a copy of Spectrobes on the side, on a friend's recommendation - I'm not 100% sold yet, but it's fairly fun so far.

I'll be thinking about trying out some of the GBA games, next, I think. Then... Who knows?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:45 / 20.03.07
Electroplankton's not a very good one to go for if you're looking for something that'll sell the system to you - it's *very* casual and isn't representative of the rest of the software library in the slightest. Not that it's not fun, just that it's not the title to pick out as a shining example of the reality of what the format's all about.

I'd definitely recommend trying Advance Wars Dual Strike. It's a good example of how the machine can have a positive effect on ease of use where some traditional genres are concerned, and it's also a bloody good game (and a huge one, when you take all the unlockable skirmish maps and missions into account). If it disappoints at all it's by having a campaign mode that's too easy for veterans of any of the previous games to whizz through and by having too few maps that use the upper screen in a meaningful way - there are some, but only in campaign and then only two or three.

Kirby's Power Paintbrush (which goes under a different name in every territory - that's the European name, Kirby's Canvas Curse is either the Japanese or American one and I'm afraid I can't remember the third) uses the touchscreen to fundamentally alter the dynamics of an existing genre, and deserves rather more praise for doing so than it gets. It's not the first game to do it, but it is the first full game - Yoshi's Touch & Go does a similar thing, but does come across as an extended tech demo or proof of concept, rather than full-developed project.

Anyway, you tap irby to make him roll in whichever direction he's facing, draw in the platforms that you want him to move across and change his direction by drawing barriers for him to bounce off. It's got some lovely use of colour throughout, has a nice eye for distinctively themed backgrounds (every world is painted in a different style, from impressionistic daubs to stained glass) and manages to keep the innovative controls solid throughout. Again, lots to unlock and keep playing for.

My favourite game on the DS, and one that I think is essential for any owner of the machine, remains Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan. It's all in Japanese, yes. It needs to be bought from an import site, yes. BUT you don't need to be able to read the text to understand it perfectly and it's more than worth the teeny weeny little bit of extra trouble you'd need to go to to source a copy.

It's a music game - a genre more popularly known as rhythm action or bemani (and which I'm still thinking is something we desperately need a thread on in this forum and will get around to creating when I've got more time and energy, if nobody beats me to it [hint hint]) - with visuals ripped straight out of a hyperactive manga and given rudimentary, cut-out animation. Each level tells a story of everyday hardship - kid trying to revise in a noisy house, chunky kid getting bullied by sporty wanker in front of fanciable friend, violinist trying to fight off an attack of nerve-induced shits while on the train to a big concert. Into this scene come the Ouendan, a trio of morale boosting male cheerleaders, who try to provide the subject of the piece with a boost to their self-confidence through the medium of, yes, cheer.

Oh, and later on the stories all go a bit supermental, but it never loses its charm, no matter how intergalactic it becomes, mainly because all the stories intertwine with each other in some way.

And it's all about tapping out rhythms on the screen, following drumrolls by tracing lines, getting your funky shit on. The reason it's so special, beyond the wonderful visual style and lovely sense of human warmth it possesses, is because it adapts the gameplay around the music better than any other bemani game to date - the patterns it asks you to bang out are truly inspired adaptations of the rhythm of whichever song/level you're playing that somehow manage, on higher diffiulties, to make you feel as though you're affecting every single piece of instrumentation at the same time.

Best soundtrack ever, too, which is obviously kind of important in a game based around the music. It's made up of apparently famous songs from the Japanese pop charts over the last twenty years - all upbeat guitar shouty BIG chorus stuff. Some kind soul tracked down the all of the originals (the gamne has covers, but they're all excellent and some are actually superior to the originals) and stuck them online as a torrent, if anybody wants to search for it. I downloaded it a while back and it's become, like, the greatest compilation album I own.

Sorry, that's rather more than I intended to post about it.

Glad that you've not forgotten the GBA slot, because so many people do and it's a crying shame. Recs there would be Pokemon and the bitGenerations games - Pokemon discussed hereabouts in the 'mobile gaming recommendations' thread, bitGenerations series in its own dedicated thread. I would link, but I'm nearly typed out for tonight.

Most essential of all on the GBA, though, is Rhythm Tengoku. Again, music game, import-only, but absolutely a necessary part of any DS/GBA owner's library of games. I mentioned it - briefly - here and provided links to some YouTube vids that demonstrate barely a tiny percentage of its out and out brilliance and joyfulness. There's also a nice impressions thread (he says, having contributed to it himself) on another board here.

I just recently voted it best game of 2006 in some meaningless thing. It bloody was, too.
 
 
Feverfew
14:31 / 22.03.07
Thank you for your recommendations!

I'm having trouble locating copies of Osu! or Tengoku, but I now am the proud owner of T'Kirby game - the only copy, seemingly, in my town, and preowned at that, so, hey, cachet.

I have also had a random moment and ended up ordering Custom Robo Arena from Play Asia, because, hey, customisable robots; what's not to love?

I have played Advance Wars - Dual Strike (and the GBA predecessor - so I may give that a go on the DS some time in the future.

This hasn't really been about selling the DS to me so much as re-selling the DS to me, because I spent too much time playing on the old DS (Animal Crossing, mostly) but then just... tailed off. So this is about tailing back on, and again, thank you for the advice - and if no-one else starts the Bemani thread some time soon, if you don't, I will!
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:11 / 22.03.07
Ouendan at NCSX.com and Rhythm Tengoku at YesAsia (warning: Firefox keeps crashing when I try and visit YesAsia through it, but it might just be my PC - it didn't used to happen. The link works fine in Internet Explorer, if you do have trouble).
 
 
Sniv
21:48 / 26.03.07
I bought Advance Wars DS today based on Randy's recommendations above and I've been enjoying the hell out of it. I don't know why I never got it before, except for the fact that I'm renowned for leaving it forever to try something I'm almost guaranteed to like (I only played Deus Ex last year, only read Watchmen two years ago... despite the fact that I've been playing and reading since it hit double-digits).

I love the depth of the game, it looks so cartoony but is as solid a war game as you'll find on any PC. The challenge curve is nice so far for a non-strategic noob like myself and I really like its non-intrusive resource model, something that will usually turn me right off a strategy game if handled badly. It is a bit intense though, I played one game for nearly an hour earlier, I thought my eyes would fall out by the time I finished.

So, I'm very glad I got this, thanks for the reminder that it's one to own! One thing I have seen that looks neat is Theme Park - has anyone played this? I loved the original, how well does it hold up?
 
  

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