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The Mayan Calendar and the End of Time

 
  

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Quantum
10:58 / 26.07.05
The interest in the Mayan calendar is becoming more and more prevalent. There are plenty of internet sites about it (Tortuga.com for example) but many are frustratingly unclear.

I came across this site the other day by a Mayan bemoaning the misunderstanding of their calendars by Westerners like by Adrian Gilbert and Maurice Cotterell (The Mayan Prophecies) and saying the world won't end.

So, are you a believer? If so why, and how thoroughly do you feel you understand it all?

Despite it's influence on The Invisibles, historically there's this thread from 2001 Minor Mayan info but that's all I could find. Excepth the Timewave Zero thread of course.
 
 
Quantum
11:00 / 26.07.05
"the Mayan calendar prophesies the end of our own "Age of the Jaguar", the fifth and final "sun" in 2012 AD. This, according to Cotterell's sun-spot theories, will be brought about by a sudden reversal in the earth's magnetic field." From The Mayan Prophecies
(Published 1995 (c) by Adrian Gilbert and Maurice Cotterell)

The sunspot thing probably ties in with a load of earthchange sites about the poles shifting too.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
11:42 / 26.07.05
I suppose it's an obvious thing to say, but a westerner's interpretation of Maya scriptures probably isn't the best place to look for answers. I'm inclined to think that unless a Mayan- like the one you've found- says it, it probably isn't true. More on this later when I've woken up properly.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:09 / 26.07.05
If I could, I would place the popular mythology around the year 2012 in a gigantic ideaspace wicker man, along with Discordianism, the Church of the Subgenius, chaos magic and Robert Anton Wilson (playing the part of Edward Woodward) and then set fire to the fucker. Maybe such a sacrifice would help make new crops grow in the collective imagination of occultists and magicians.

I find many of the ideas around the year 2012 deeply irritating. Especially when it's pitched as a positive transcendent thing, as in: "Roll on 2012 when we all enter the supercontext." I think this is just the occult/counterculture/hippy equivalent of the Christian fundamentalist apocalypse scenario. An aesthetically pleasing myth situated in the immanent future, during which vast cosmic forces will step in and reward "people like us" and sort out all of the problems that vex "people like us", whilst either quelling or actively erasing "people different from us" so we don't have to think about them.

It's just as dubious as the notion that Judgement Day is around the corner, and all good Christians will be spirited up to a fun-filled Heaven, while all sinners will be left behind or otherwise situated elsewhere. It should be criticised as widely and openly as such apocalyptic tropes, but tends not to be. How many times have you read posts on occult forums by people talking about 2012 almost as if it's a foregone conclusion? How many times do you see such statements questioned or criticised in such forums?

2012 was a great theme for fiction during the pre-millenial 1990s, but right now, when people go on about it, it comes across to me as really escapist. "Don't worry, things are a bit mad now, but it'll all come out in the wash in 2012." It can be an excuse not to do anything yourself, actively, now.

I've said it before, but if anything does change in the year 2012, it might well be brought about by every occultist on the planet waking up on the morning of December 22nd 2012, realising that fuck all happened and perhaps then thinking of ways to make things better off their own bat. But I'm not holding my breath.

Having said that: I'd be interested to hear the criticism of western versioning on the theme of 2012 from actual Mayans. Have you got any links for that? My criticisms above are about the popular western mythology around 2012 rather than the Mayan calendar, which I don't know a great deal about. Anyone care to elaborate?
 
 
ghadis
12:37 / 26.07.05
Having said that: I'd be interested to hear the criticism of western versioning on the theme of 2012 from actual Mayans. Have you got any links for that?

That was the first link that Quantam was posting to Gypsy. In it the Mayan guy makes some good points including this one...

'Anthropologists visit the temple sites," Mr. Barrios says, "and read the stelas and inscriptions and make up stories about the Maya, but they do not read the signs correctly. It's just their imagination...Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this.

THE WORLD WIL NOT END.....IT WILL BE TRANSFORMED! The indigenous have the calendars, and know how to accurately interpret them, not others."
 
 
Quantum
12:44 / 26.07.05
I have to add to GL's opinion on the 2012 crew that there's a million websites and a zillion people who don't know a thing about it. Someone reads Cotterill and sets up a site, lots of people enthusiastically expand on it, then people think it's true- the Von Daniken syndrome.

(Heh, still laughing at the virtual wicker man!)
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:57 / 26.07.05
Er, the link in the post? here's a sample

Sorry, didnt spot the link! A bit distracted this afternoon...
 
 
Quantum
13:42 / 26.07.05
That's because today is the first of Magnetic, it's a New Year! w00t!

Check out the perpetual calendar halfway down the page, new year's eve is now the 25th August (the 28th of Cosmic by the Moon calendar)
 
 
macrophage
13:58 / 26.07.05
As the mythos goes it sems that we will encounter major sunspot maxima, and their cosmologists and shamans could not get their heads around there existing more time than they could have possibly estimated, a bit like an earlier Year Zero Programming Faux Pas. It's eschaotologiacl crap - for fuck's sake we encounter this psychic upheaval every Millenia and look at all the wacko cults that do themselves in, and the amount of people fooled and deluded into End Times Crisis's. Look at some of the Xtians who fervently believe they will cross over to the hallowed 144,000 to seek Rapture in an Eternal Heaven. I read one book on the Mayans it was good about astrognosis and radiations and electromagnetisation and microwave signals from space. Bit New Age but passable alot of people buy the Mayan Hypotheses about the Death of The 5th Sun and all that. Look at Richard Noone and his book about how the world was going to get punged into a new ice age on the 5/5/2005 - did it happen, did it fuck! Esoteric Scare Mongering - shamans apply this tech so as to scare the living-be-jesus out of folk, to enforce a Spiritual Goetic Gnosis - some people buy it and get hoodwinked completely by that they join the cult belief system in order to enact some penance and safety within their chosen egregore's net of pearls before swine. Mt Shasta anyone? New Age Patriots will stock up on their dried soya milk powders for that one with their hemp all-in-one "skirts" and their sunflower oiled airguns!!
 
 
Quantum
14:02 / 26.07.05
Coincidence- the other day I was researching a book I read years ago called 'Charles Henry and the foundation of a psychophysical aesthetic' because it had a great cover. I found out the guy who wrote it (Jose Arguelles) had changed his name to Valum Votan and become a Mayan convert, then about a minute later my colleague recommended tortuga.com which I visited only to find him on the front page- have a look.

Well, it seemed weird to me- I guess you had to be there.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
14:06 / 26.07.05
Valium Voltan would have been a better name. He would be a bit like Guitar Wolf.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
16:53 / 26.07.05
every dawn the day starts anew. Same for Dec 22nd 2012.

the apocalypse is ever present, and to await divine annihilation is to annihilate the present in favour of living in an obscure future.

TenIx
 
 
macrophage
21:07 / 26.07.05
Get away with you - you bunch of tykes!!! The Mayans seems bonkers - so were the Fundamentalist Heretics as well, you can always tell WSB Freaks by their broken knowledge of Mayan Godforms!!!!
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:48 / 26.07.05
I hung out with Jose before he renamed himself, fun guy. Back in the party days here in Oakland CA. He's certainly refined alot of his theories and products since then ('97?).

WRT mayan info & their calendar, I have some old friends who are very devoted to hands-on work with the people of Maya via their website sacredroad.org
in their own words
"Saq' Be' serves to educate the public on current Indigenous struggles, assist Indigenous communities in the preservation of their spiritual traditions, and arrange for meetings and exchanges between spiritual leaders of Indigenous communities and the general public, with an emphasis on involving young adults."

haven't paid nearly as much attention to this calendar as I did back in the day but still appriecate the astrological cosmology.
 
 
Quantum
11:33 / 27.07.05
Can anyone explain to me the little poem type thingummies connected to the days, like this one for the first day of the new year-

'kin 104: Yellow Cosmic Seed

I Endure in order to Target
Transcending Awareness
I seal the Input of Flowering
With the Cosmic tone of Presence
I am guided by the power of Elegance'

you can find them on the Tortuga website, and they seem quite like I-Ching hexagrams in a way, but I just don't get them. Someone told me that was because they are poor translations of the Mayan Oracle, but does anybody *know*?
(Mixmage I'm looking to you...) What's the background to them? They sound cool (Violet Cosmic Crystal and such) but they're a bit vague.
 
 
Mr Tricks
15:40 / 27.07.05
From my understanding they function both as an astrological signifer (somewhat like sabian symbols) as well as a translation/meditation of the comological significance of that day. There's a 13/20 system that allows for variations similar to the 12/10 ratio of the Chinese Lunar calendar. In the Chinese Calendar you have 12 Animals and 5 elements (times 2; Yin/Yang).

The system (as I understood it) is a sort of simplified version of readingS the of mayan glyphs. A little conversion will reveal your personal gylph (astrological sign) and thus that poem works as a sort of meditation on the kind of person you could be. Or it functionS to discribe the spiritial significance of that day; what meditations or endevors that day resonates most with. There's a system of "wavespells" which function as a sort of 13 day week. The glyph that starts that wave spell is intended to indicate what endevors would best be undertaken during that cycle. It seems to all move towards making one's actions in greater alignment with cosmic forces. As I understand it at least.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
19:24 / 27.07.05
(as i understand it):

the tzolkin is the 260-day sacred calendar, and its the cog that synchronizes the various time-measuring systems of the maya. I've heard it claimed that 260 days is the gestation period of a human being. (my nephew gestated for 272 days, fwiw)

the tzolkin is comprised of 20 glyphs and 13 numbers. The glyphs are one of four colours, representing the directions, starting with East then N, W, S.

the dreamspell system gives each number a "tone"
combine the colour of the glyph, the "tone" and the name of the glyph

red magnetic dragon (aka 1 dragon)
white lunar wind (aka 2 wind)
blue electric night (aka 3 night)
yellow self-existing seed (aka 4 seed)

then red overtone serepnt (5 serpent)
6 death
7 hand
8 star
9 moon
10 dog
11 monkey
12 human
13 reed
1 wizard
2 eagle
3 warrior
4 earth
5 mirror
6 storm
7 sun

then the glyphs repeat themselves
8 - dragon
9 wind
etc...
until the 260th day 13 sun

mind you, different people use different glyphs in different orders. the glyphs are called by different names by different people.
The progression from dragon to sun is a narrative, from nothing to something to nothing. a creation story, if you will.

the little poem things are mnemonics to assist in remembering what qualities are associated with what glyphs. Each glyph and number is an archetype, a face of god, Quetzalcoatl snickering behind it all, wondering when we're going to let ourselves in on the joke.

today's 1 serpent. The serpent represents our life force (chi, prahna, the central nervous system), so endeavours during these 13 days focus on health of the body. (for those who follow the dreamspell).

The Dreamspell is not the mayan calendar, although it was derived from it, and shares many characteristics. There are still plenty o mayan daykeepers in mexico, belize and guatemala who have their own ideas and traditions about how to keep time, and they know today by a different number and glyph.

the important thing about this system, regardless of the details, is that it is flexible, it represents time as a series of synchronized cycles, and it is an excellent tool for manifestation.

hope that doensn't convolute further.
ta
tenix
 
 
LVX23
05:13 / 28.07.05
Personally, I rather enjoy the 2012 myth and it's Mayan/G Morrison (super)contexts. However, that's not to say I believe in them.

I've come to regard all such futuremyths as plans more than predictions. If enough people ardently belive in the 2012 transformation/resetting of the Tzolkien, then it would probably come about to pass in some manner. However, there are far more people working to immanentize the Xtian eschaton so that one has a much better chance of playing out.

These are namshubs (memetic virii) replicating and executing in human hosts. Get infected deeply enough by the Xtian myth and you will help enact it's will into the kingdom. Jose Arguelles has certainly been a great vector for the Mayan eschaton but he just doesn't have the sex appeal of a crucified half-naked Christ marching his ardent followers across the heavenly clouds.

Maybe if the Maya hadn't been thrashed by the Toltecs, the Spaniards, and everyone else, they might have had a shot at writing the apocalypse. But, yeah: Viva Zapatista!
 
 
Quantum
10:47 / 28.07.05
Thanks Tenix, that does make a lot more sense now. I believe you can get one for your birthday from the Tortuga site, which is what made me think it was a bit like a horoscope.

These are namshubs (memetic virii).. LVX23
just like in Neal Stephenson's sci-fi novel Snow Crash. I think the Xians missed their chance in 2000 though
 
 
Olulabelle
13:28 / 28.07.05
There are some people who follow the 13 moon calendar who don't believe that the end of time signifies apocalypse and the Mayan version of judgement day.

Some people think that the calendar is an excellent tool for life management, for re-assessing yourself and for focussing on different aspects of yourself, in turn, for each relevant day, or month, or year.

2012 is significant cosmically, in 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000 years to complete.

The 2012 prophecy is not foreboding. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in 2012, so we are currently "between worlds". Some people think that now is the time for us to assess ourselves individually and collectively and redefine what we want our lives to be.

The Mayan sixth world is actually unprophesied. This means it is up to us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization we want now.
 
 
Quantum
13:42 / 28.07.05
in 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000 years to complete.
Wow, I didn't know that...

The 2012 prophecy is not foreboding. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in 2012, so we are currently "between worlds".
...or that. So the popular myth of the collapse of time etc. is just that, an urban myth?

I'm off to investigate the ecliptic alignment.
 
 
Olulabelle
17:16 / 30.07.05
It's not a myth. It just depends on how you read the prophecies I suppose. Timewave Zero et al are in part born out of the Mayan prophecies, but are not entirely indicative of them.
 
 
Olulabelle
17:57 / 30.07.05
John Jenkins is the most famous advocate of the 2012 alignmentand he has written a couple of books about it. He says that, "The ecliptic is the path travelled by the sun, moon, and planets through the sky. Twelve constellations lie along the ecliptic, and the sun passes through all twelve during the course of one year. The ecliptic crosses over the Milky Way at a 60° angle near the constellation Sagittarius. As such, it forms a cross with the Milky Way, and this cosmic cross was called the Sacred Tree by the ancient Maya.(The cross form was also known as the "crossroads.") Amazingly, the center of this cosmic cross, that is, right where the ecliptic crosses over the Milky Way, is exactly where the December solstice sun will be in A.D. 2012. This alignment occurs only once every 25,800 years.

_ The Milky Way is observed as a bright, wide band of stars arching through the sky. In the clear skies of ancient Mesoamerica, many dark, blotchy areas can be observed along the Milky Way's length. These are "dark-cloud" formations caused by interstellar dust. The most prominent of these is called the "dark-rift" or the "Great Cleft" of the Milky Way. It looks like a dark road running along the Milky Way, and it points right at the cosmic crossing point, the center of the Maya Sacred Tree, right where the sun will be in 2012. The Maya called this dark-rift the Black Road, or the Road to the Underworld. They seem to have imagined it as a portal to another world, and the December solstice sun can enter it only in A.D. 2012.


But there also people who completely disagree with him. This astronomy article about it is very interesting, and so is John Jenkin's response to that.

We know that "it is an astronomical fact that the solstice sun will be in alignment with the Galactic Plane in the years between 1980 and 2016. In more precise terms, both the U.S. Naval Observatory and astronomer Jean Meeus (in Mathematical Astronomy Morsels, 1997) calculated that the solstice meridian will align with the Galactic equator in 1998. Since the sun itself occupies roughly ½ degree, the zone of alignment can be extended to a 36-year range centering upon 1998. We can call this a solstice-galaxy alignment, or simply, galactic alignment. This alignment occurs roughly once every 12,900 years (one-half of a precession cycle)."

So that in itself is very an unusual occurence. Regardless of whether or not you subscribe to John Jenkins theory about the December solstice, the point is that it is fact that one of the years that the alignment encompasses is 2012.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
19:25 / 30.07.05
I don't know about the end of the world but...

Well, Dec 22nd, 2012 is the eve of my 34th birthday. I have a big party planned. You are all invited.

Seriously though, you don't need to look very far for the end of the world / start of the new aeon / shifting paradigm. Like tenix said, everyday has its dawn. Make yer own end of the world, you lazy basatards!

-Jesse
 
 
macrophage
02:19 / 31.07.05
Two years ago I'll come clean I was doing some chieromancy whilst burning the dead runner beans plants and all sorts of agricultural waste at my old house and I was scrying through the clouds and I saw Lam my old HGA look at me like a Babe in the abyss and then suddenly a Mayan Thought Form appeared which I took to mean some sort of spritual insight, I did actually write a story before based on how Lam was operating the Mayan gateways con trick from outer space, and I did have a trip where I witnessed a Mayan vision. Very much influenced by WSB books I think and Robert Charroux who I read when I was young - I notice KG namechecks him alot as well!!! The Lam vision did me over psychologically I've not experieneced a good rapport with that Mask of the Void but I never worked with the Mayan thought Form, but I have worked with a Jaguar thought form. The beans ting did me in the next year I bought a second hand eidolon in the form of a North American doll principally to guard beanplants lo and behold an accident happens at the Jack and the Beanstalk Pantomine. I had a dog called jack he was code named the silver bullet. The day was on a Winter Lunar Eclipse 2 years ago - for real, I value chieromancy and pyromancy above all else in my experience. The Mayan codex rules in my opinion just a sheer volume of technological and artistic endeavours!
 
 
hoatzin
08:59 / 02.08.05
What?
Was this computer generated ?
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
11:41 / 02.08.05
macrophage - it's what 'Ignore' functions were invented for.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:51 / 02.08.05
I was kind of thinking about this the other day, having been musing on the Seventh Day Adventists' rather endearing habit of pushing the apocalypse further and further back whenever it didn't appear.
When Y2K failed to deliver the expected shenanigans, a lot of millenarians shifted over to the whole Timewave Zero/Mayan Calendar thing for their impending revelation. When (okay, if) that doesn't happen, anyone got any idea what the next big date'll be?
 
 
FinderWolf
15:02 / 02.08.05
I've also heard a bit about the Kali Yuga time, which is the time period we're in now...

a few results from a Google search on this:

>> In the Eastern religions we are said to be in the Kali Yuga time cycle, the Age of Iron. The metals corresponding to the four Yugas, or ages, in the Hindu chronology are gold, silver, bronze, and iron. We rid ourselves of Kali at the end of the time cycle, and reach "Moksha," or Nirvana, the abode of blessed Peace and Spirit. (see Isis Unveiled, vol. 2, page 275, by H. P. Blavatsky).

>> Kali Yuga, Time of Opportunity
The Kali Yuga, the present age, is the fourth of the yugas.

The beginning of Kali Yuga traditionally dates from the death of Krishna, the eighth Avatar of Vishnu. Sathya Sai Baba has confirmed that the Kali Yuga began 20th December, 3102 BC, which was the day when Krishna attained mahasamadhi.

As predicted several millennia ago in the Bhagavata Purana, the present Dark Age of Kali is the time of increasing deterioration, disorder and decline.

But the Kali Yuga is at the same time a period of great opportunity, because it is the time in which spiritual advancement can be made most quickly.

As Sri Sathya Sai Baba tells us, the liberation itself can be easily attained in the present Age of Kali, through just Naamasmarana, remembrance of the Name of God.

Below are some extracts from Divine Discourses.

"This Kali Yuga is praised in the scriptures as incomparably conducive to the salvation of man, for he can now attain the Highest through the mere thought of God and remembering His Name. So of all the Yugas, this Yuga is described as the most holy, the most beneficient. Dhyana (meditation) was prescribed as the means of liberation for men in the Kritha Yuga, Ascetism as the means during the Tretha Yuga and ritual worship for the Dwapara Yuga. But, for people of this Yuga, the simple remedy prescribed is just Namasmarana, the constant awareness of the Name. In spite of this, it is a pity that men do not care for this path and so render their lives barren wastes."
SSS Vol XI, Chap. 28, pag. 162

"The spiritual discipline for each Age has been prescribed by the scriptures; for the Kritha (First Age), it is dhyaana (meditation); for the Thretha, the second, it is dharma (righteousness); for the Dwaapara, the third, it is archana (ritual worship) and for the present age, the Kali, it is Naamasmarana, the remembrance of the Name of God."
Divine Discourse Yugaadhi, 27 March 1971

"Though the evil is thickest in this Kali Age, the remedy is the simplest."
SSS Vol VIII, Chap. 22, pag. 132

"In the Kali Yuga, through just Namasmarana and remembrance of God we can reach the goal."
SSS Vol XI, Chap. 33, pag. 186

"It's easiest to get liberation in the Kali Yuga; it can be done through singing the glory of the Lord and listening to the Name being sung."
SSS Vol XI, Chap. 43, pag. 245

"The Kali Yuga offers more facilities for liberation than previous ones."
SSS Vol X, Chap. 53, pag. 339

"In the Kali Yuga only Namasmarana is needed to acquire liberation."
SSS Vol IV, Chap. 18, pag. 106
 
 
LVX23
05:27 / 05.08.05
One thing that always makes me do a bit of a double-take and wonder if the Mayan 2012 transition is more than just a myth, is the McKenna brother's Timewave program. Supposedly neither of them had any knowledge of the Mayan endpoint, yet their manipulations of the I-Ching into a mathematical indicator of novelty managed to crash to infinity at Dec 22, 2012.

Coincidence?
 
 
_Boboss
10:35 / 05.08.05
Yes?
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
08:21 / 11.08.05
speaking of the I-Ching and the Mayan Calendar...

There's a magic square arrangement of the I-Ching hexagrams in an eight by eight square. The numbers of each row and column adds up to 260.

16 50 09 55 11 53 14 52
01 63 08 58 06 60 03 61
64 02 57 07 59 05 62 04
49 15 56 10 54 12 51 13
48 18 41 23 43 21 46 20
33 31 40 26 38 28 35 29
32 34 25 39 27 37 30 36
17 47 24 42 22 44 19 45


260 is the number of days in the mayan tzolkin sacred calendar (13 x 20).

what's that all about, then?
ta
tenix
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
22:38 / 14.08.05
It irritates me, too, when new-age types banter about the 2012 singularity coming and all that and treat it like an amalgamation of the Rapture and Burning Man. A big T.A.Z. in the sky that willexplode into being when the time is right.

That said, I am a firm believer in the 2012 current. I mean, if we act/live like there is a strange attractor in the future sending back ripples of increasing complexity/chaos/change/information/magick/glamour/novety/tofu and therefore become a vehicle for such a current, then I figure that just increaseses the chance of said singularity being there at the end of the line.

And personally? The idea of a beneovolent apocalypse suits me just fine.
 
 
Unconditional Love
12:24 / 15.08.05
Forgive my ignorance, but does the calendar in anyway relate to burroughs and his ah pook stuff? and the mayan entities he describes from dead city radio?

How do the various mayan gods and goddesses fit into the calendar, is it like the chinese calander based upon the 28 constellations, does each deitie pertain to a star system?
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
18:44 / 16.08.05
hey Wolfangel,

good questions. From what I've been able to gather, the principal deity for the Mayans was Kulkulkan (the plumed serpent) who was Venus - or associated with that planet.

I've read through the Dresden Codex (one of the few surviving codices from the conquest), which entales (sic) a creation myth. One story chronicles two twin brothers who travel to the underworld (xibalba) to play the sacred ball game against the lords there.

the tale is woven with day-glyphs. It is an instruction manual as much as anything.

the mythology is interwoven with the calendrical system, so it becomes a series of complex relationships.

As an agricultural people, the Mayans had gods for rain, thunder, corn, etc...

I haven't read this stuff in a while, so I'm a bit rusty. I've only just started looking at the calendars again (thanks to this, and the thread in Head Shop).

The symbol for Hunab Ku, the Milky Way, resembles the symbol for the Tao, and includes a spiral.

There's also a prophecy that the Aztecs had (their calendar derived from the Mayans), that predicted the end of their empire on the date that Cortez landed.

I haven't found the dates, or anything other than vague references. One account I'd read a couple of years back dismisses this synchronicity as "coincidence."

the Aztecs soiled themselves, and didn't put up much of a fight. Then again, there was the plague killing everyone off - no doubt it felt like the end of the world.

The Dreamspell calendar (ie new agey one) uses the day-glyphs like astrology. According to my day-glyph, I "manifest timelessness." Does it feel like this post is interminable? Then perhaps there's something to it.

I don't know how the Mayans interpreted this.

ta
tenix
 
  

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