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Magickal Quiz

 
  

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Quantum
17:27 / 20.07.05
QUIZTASTIC!

Y'think you're magic an' all that? Ipsissimuss my arse, take the test and see how gnostically attuned you really are, willworker! (no googling or searching the Temple)

Take a point for each correct answer, plus another for each bonus answer.

1) Who wrote the Emerald Tablet?
Bonus Point: Quote any line from it.

2) How does the Moon wax in the Northern hemisphere?
Bonus Point: When is Imbolc?

3) What is the term for a Vodoun priest?
Bonus Point: What is a Baka?

4) What is the name of the tree Odin hung from to discover the runes?
Bonus Point: Who did he feed his eye to?

5) What elements do the Tarot suits correspond to?
Bonus Point: What does the High Priestess's crown represent?

6) According to the Mayan Tzolk'in (or Cholq'ij) calendar, what date will the world be consumed by fire?
Bonus Point: How long is the cycle in days (i.e. the Mayan super number)?

7) Who was Solomon's father?
Bonus Point: What shape is his seal?

8) What metal is alchemically associated with the planet Mars?
Bonus Point: Name all seven metal/planetary associations.

9) What does Thoth's head look like?
Bonus Point: What does his name (Tehuti) mean?

10) What does 'Sephiroth' mean?
Bonus Point: What route does a magician take up the tree?

scoring;
0-5pts = Muggle- read 'To Ride a Silver Broomstick', you might learn something
6-10pts= Magician's Apprentice- you're a danger to yourself and others
11-15pts= Magus- congratulations, do what thou Will!
16-19pts= Ipsissimus- Reality is your playground
20pts= You can write the next quiz, Master!

Answers in another thread to come, which will also be for commentary on this quiz and complaints, quibbles etc.
 
 
Quantum
18:27 / 20.07.05
Oh, I meant to say please post your scores and gloat about them here, along with any suggestions for other questions.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
18:46 / 20.07.05
no essay questions???

good idea tho... i think i'm sub-apprentice.

ten ix
 
 
electric monk
01:06 / 21.07.05
Hey, I'm dangerous!


Cooool.
 
 
electric monk
01:08 / 21.07.05

And yes, I'm really sure of my answers.
 
 
Wyrd
09:45 / 21.07.05
I appreciate this is meant to be a bit of fun...

But really, if you score high what does that prove?

I've a friend is has deliberately stayed away from this kind of bookology and is one of the most erudite people on the subject of magic that I know.

A series of facts and a high score does not a magician make.

The kind of quiz that would determine whether a magician/shaman/whatever is really up to snuff could not be presented in this fashion.

(btw I'm not knocking research and a magical education--that would be hypocritical of me--but it's what you do with the information that counts)
 
 
gravitybitch
14:12 / 21.07.05
So, wyrd, what did you score? [grins]

I got less than half of them, which surprised the hell out of me (usually I'm a damn good test-taker); but it doesn't bother me in the least because I'm happy with my progress and have a good grasp of most of the stuff I need to learn...


Having said that, I'm sure the Universe will throw me a curve or two just to prove a point.
 
 
Quantum
14:40 / 21.07.05
A series of facts and a high score does not a magician make.

%Shit, silly me!% No but seriously, folks, I was bored and I like inventing trivia quizzes. If you get a great score it shows you have an excellent memory (for example the Mayan super number is seven digits long, who's going to remember that?)

My score would be 15, and I wrote the bastard, it's really more an excercise in provoking people into asking esoteric questions. Mayhap this will turn into a prolonged and merry magick quiz thread, I'm going to post the answers in a few days rather than start a new thread.
 
 
Sekhmet
14:41 / 21.07.05
I sincerely hope that the bonus point on #4 is meant to be a trick question.
 
 
Wyrd
16:11 / 21.07.05
Hey iszabelle, without googling or thinking too hard I was in the magus section.

I deliberately didn't mention that in my post, because I could be lying about that for all the rest of you know.

Also, the information was skewed rather heavily towards those those who're from a Hermetic background, or delved into the Western magical traditions. I've read and researched in a lot of fields so I would have come across a lot of this information.

But if, for example, an indigenous Huichol shaman (mara'akame) took that quiz s/he would probably fail. Yet, a native-trained mara'akame would be extremely knowledgeable about healing, magic and sorcery. Just not couched in the above terms.

Education is a wonderful thing, but there are many ways to be educated.
 
 
Quantum
18:18 / 21.07.05
You're taking it way too seriously. Any native-trained mara'akame on the board today? No? Quelle surprise.

You'll notice the test is also biased toward literate English speakers, ignores vast realms of the occult, picks random obscure facts, is badly researched and hastily constructed, and is almost impossible to get 100% right. Bad test of magic, fun test of trivia.
 
 
grant
18:58 / 21.07.05
I'm pretty sure there are six I know, and possibly two to four more I could guess correctly.

When do the answers pop up?
 
 
Charlie's Horse
21:46 / 21.07.05
grant, doest thou not know that only one of the Ipsissimus grade or above can dare bespeak that query? Not only one of the Ipsissimus grade, but such a one attired in a stupid pointy hat. One who truly defines magicians as un-uncunts, with every word and gesture. How you have the audacity to announce your lowley score, and from your meager station, to question those who are as the Gods Themselves to your inferior ranking.

I mean, way to overstep your bounds there, bud.

I think I got a six. Max. But I'm just telling you what the Master told me to say. Like I do.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
23:36 / 21.07.05
I can feel an attack of Bastardmod coming on, I'm afraid. This thread may be amusing but it doesn't really offer much in the way of magical discussion. (In fact the main reason it is not now adorning the Convo is that nobody'd get the jokes.)

Could we open it up a bit more? How about everyone award themselves a big fat 20 and really write the next quiz? 10 questions on what you think a mage should know.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
03:00 / 22.07.05
I'm a muggle and I'm not crying.
 
 
Seth
04:12 / 22.07.05
1: Are you happy?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

2: Do you generally get what you want out of life?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

3: Do you have rich and rewarding relationships with close friends/partners?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

4: Are you independent and capable of supporting yourself in life?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

5: Do you enjoy your job?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

6: Do you try to work with your fears and anger to become a better person by your own criteria?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

7: Do people like having you around?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

8: Are you healthy?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

9: Are you the kind of person who wants to learn more and more throughout your life?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

10: Do you like to overcome all the random obstacles life throws at you?
Bonus point if the answer is in the affirmative.

The best thing about my quiz is that it genuinely measures how good at magic you are.
 
 
Unconditional Love
06:28 / 22.07.05
4 yes
3 no
3 sometimes

not bad, but could be better, id like to have at least 6 in the yes camp.
 
 
Wyrd
09:20 / 22.07.05
Hey Quantum, I did realise the quiz was for fun, honest.

I guess I can't help but evaluate things like that when they are attempting, however light-heartedly, to evaluate a magician's progress.

That's because it is an interesting subject. It moots a number of questions that I think most people in this field have to answer at some point: How do you evaluate your progress? Who dictates you are a bad-ass magician/shaman/etc.? You, or the community? Does it matter what other people think of you, and for what reasons? Why do you need to progress? What drives you to know more? If you are self-taught, how do you keep on track? How do you know when to depart from the teachings of others?

I suppose what I was trying to point out is that knowledge is relatively easy to acquire these days. Google and the Internet means that we can accumulate vaste quantities of information with little effort. For me it is experience that counts. You can tell quite quickly from talking to someone if their knowledge translates into experience. That's trickier to notice if the conversation is online or via email.

Anyway, again, I've probably gone on too much.
 
 
Wyrd
09:28 / 22.07.05
Hi Seth, great questions.

In general, It's a yes to them all. Though, answering a queston like "Are you happy" is a tough one to answer since sometimes that depends on your mood and/or blood sugar.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:32 / 22.07.05
I like Seth's quiz. I rate about 16, which isn't bad.
 
 
grant
16:15 / 22.07.05
For Seth, 7 definite yeses and 3 mostly-I think sos.

Some people find me a little lurky, but amusing (I hope).

And I do enjoy the overcoming part of the random obstacles, but not quite enjoying some of the obstacles themselves right now.

Heh -- and I never quite sleep enough to consider myself properly healthy. Too much to do! Too much to read!

I think that's a 17.
 
 
Quantum
17:46 / 22.07.05
Damn, Seth's quiz is hard...
 
 
*
17:57 / 22.07.05
Seth wins.

Both of these are about to become livejournal memes, by the way.
 
 
Quantum
18:03 / 22.07.05
This thread may be amusing but it doesn't really offer much in the way of magical discussion.

Fair point. Henceforth let it mutate into a thread about WHAT A MAGICIAN SHOULD KNOW.
I think Seth's adequately pointed out that functionality and well-adjustedness are handy criteria, but I'd say that his quiz applies as much to non-magical types as self proclaimed wizards (probably his point).

I think a magician should know things beyond how to maintain social relationships and improve their life, I think they/we should know things about magic too.
 
 
Quantum
18:10 / 22.07.05
To expand- I am very wary of holding a belief or subscribing to a view without researching it first, considering it and finding out as much as possible about it. I like to read around a subject, investigate it, become familiar with it's ins and outs, 'own' it if you will.
I can't summon the necessary faith to believe in magic if I suspect it's inconsistent nonsense, or a mess of superstitions based on fallacies. An essential part of accepting magic into my life (for me) has been learning shedloads of trivia about all related subjects I can find.

The original purpose of the thread was to provoke people into posing interesting magic trivia questions for me to research, maybe highlighting realms of esoterica I've never heard of and leading me in directions I haven't already considered.

Oh, and I'll post the trivia answers tonight or tomorrow!
 
 
eye landed
18:54 / 22.07.05
i get a point on seths #1 because i successfully 'guessed' right on quantums #8 bonus.

while confirming that one, i also found metal attributions for the other planets. so thats nice.

i think i got a 15, but i cant confirm some of my answers on google.

should i feel bad about myself if i score better on quantums test than on seths? i admit im an 'armchair occultist' and not a 'master magician', which is exactly why i scored pretty well.

its impossible (for me) to establish an identity as a magician thats seperate from identity as a person. everything i do is magikal, but i only rarely make ceremonial evokations that would impress anybody. its a powerful resource, and it would only get more powerful if i overused it, but its kind of like dropping my whole army on a cell of terrorists: it would solve the problem, but force an overwhelming awareness of all the underlying problems. which is more important for a magician, power or restraint?
 
 
Quantum
10:51 / 23.07.05
'which is more important for a magician, power or restraint?'
I'd say control rather than restraint, and it's a balance betwen the two. (Xander has an excellent Hammer analogy but that's Buffy so of course it doesn't count)
 
 
Quantum
11:01 / 23.07.05
Here's some answers-

1- Hermes Trismegistus wrote the Emerald Tablet (allegedly)

Bonus- here's the text (bit of a dodgy translation though)
*The Emerald Tablet*
Truly, without Deceit, certainly and absolutely —
That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above corresponds to that which is Below, in the accomplishment of the Miracle of One Thing. And just as all things have come from One, through the Mediation of One, so all things follow from this One Thing in the same way.
Its Father is the Sun. Its Mother is the Moon. The Wind has carried it in his Belly. Its Nourishment is the Earth. It is the Father of every completed Thing in the whole World. Its Strength is intact if it is turned towards the Earth. Separate the Earth by Fire: the fine from the gross, gently, and with great skill.
It rises from Earth to Heaven, and then it descends again to the Earth, and receives Power from Above and from Below. Thus you will have the Glory of the whole World. All Obscurity will be clear to you. This is the strong Power of all Power because it overcomes everything fine and penetrates everything solid.
In this way was the World created. From this there will be amazing Applications, because this is the Pattern. Therefore am I called Thrice Greatest Hermes, having the three parts of the Wisdom of the whole World.
Herein have I completely explained the Operation of the Sun.


more here including the original Latin (ten bonus points if you knew a line in Latin!)

2- The Moon waxes from right to left in the North,
Imbolc is the first or second of Feb-
'Imbolc is one of the eight solar holidays, festivals or sabbats of the Neopagan wheel of the year, with some origins in Irish mythology and the pre-Christian Celtic calendar. Originally it was a pagan Irish festival celebrated on 1 February, which began, according to Celtic custom the evening before. Today modern neopagans either celebrate it on the 1st or 2nd, the 2nd being more popular in America, perhaps because of a confusion with Candlemas. In the southern hemisphere it is celebrated in August. The name, in the Irish language, means "in the belly" (i mbolg), referring to the pregnancy of ewes, and is also a Celtic term for spring. Another name is Oimelc, meaning "ewe's milk"; also Brigid, referring to the Celtic goddess of smithcraft, to whom the day is sacred.'
(from wikipedia)

3- A Houngan is a priest of Vodoun. A Baka is an evil spirit in animal form (I didn't know this)

4- Yggdrasil is the tree Odin hung from, Mimir.

'Mimir was a giant of superhuman strength who stood half-immersed in the Waters of Ultimate Wisdom, supporting the Kjolen Mountains on his powerful shoulders. He was said to have been at his post since the world came into being and to have become part of the mountain itself. Oracles in ancient times would bring vessels and retrieve water from the pool in order to learn the secrets of the earth. Mimir was sometimes depicted as perhaps being the brother of Odin's etin-mother Bestla and keeper of the Well (or spring) of Mimir, in which all wisdom lies - the spring where Odin gave up his eye to drink'

rest later...
 
 
Quantum
18:19 / 25.07.05
Odin gave Mimir his eye, obviously.

5. The Tarot suits represent Earth (Pentacles/Coins) Air (Swords) Fire (Wands) and Water (Cups).
The High Priestess's crown represents the three phases of the moon (at least in the Rider & more recent decks), waxing, full and waning, a reference to the Isisian regalia.

6. The Mayan end date is 22nd of December 2012, and the super number is 1,366,560 days (3.75 thousand years). If you knew that my hat off to you.

7. King Solomon was the son of David. His seal is a six pointed star in a circle, although there are several more complicated options.

8. Mars is associated with Iron, Saturn with Lead, Jupiter with Tin, Quicksilver with Mercury, Venus with Copper Silver with the Moon and Gold with the Sun.

9. Thoth had an Ibis's head (although Baboon is also correct) and his name Tehuti means 'Three times very, very great' but thrice great or whatever is close enough I reckon. (Thus 'Trismegistus' of course)

10. The Magus takes a lightning bolt route up the tree traditionally, compared to the Mystic's straight-up-the-middle-pillar approach. Sephiroth (Sing. Sephirah) means Enumerations (emanations), but Spheres, Glowing Sapphires, Sapphires or sparkling lights would do.
 
 
Unconditional Love
19:41 / 25.07.05
Does the serpent slither down from the top of the tree and then nest in the roots?
 
 
macrophage
20:10 / 25.07.05
I got seven wrong I'm not too hot on ceremonial magick or voodoo archetypes or spiritism. Does anyone know which area in London that Austin Osman Spare lived in? What country does Papus live in? What exactly is a Martinist? How many bottles it took the Armanen Lodge to bury as a Solar Cross as a rite in Bavaraia to Immanetise the Nazi Atrocity Exhibition? Sorry. My obsessions imply my Ego with Running Waters.
 
 
grant
21:29 / 25.07.05
7. King Solomon was the son of David. His seal is a six pointed star in a circle, although there are several more complicated options.

I wasn't sure about this one -- didn't Solomon's star have five points to David's six? And drawn all in one line, like in the Moroccan flag?
Or, well, aren't they *both* Solomon's stars? I remember at one point believing that the diff between Solomon & David stars was that the Solomon one was interlinked triangles (you could see the overlapping lines), but nowadays, I'm not so sure.
 
 
Quantum
10:18 / 26.07.05
The Arabs afterward gave the name of "Solomon's seal" to the six-pointed star-like figure (see Magen, Dawid) engraved on the bottom of their drinking-cups.
from Jewish Encyclopedia

In later versions the ring simply bore the symbol now called the Star of David, often within a circle, usually with the two triangles interlaced rather than intersecting. Often the gaps are filled with dots or other symbols.
from wikipedia

Definitely six pointed, usually in a circle.
 
 
Quantum
10:23 / 26.07.05
Does anyone know which area in London that Austin Osman Spare lived in?
Born in Smithfield in 1886 apparently, I'm not sure.

What country does Papus live in?
He's dead. Trick question. He was French.

What exactly is a Martinist? How many bottles it took the Armanen Lodge to bury as a Solar Cross as a rite in Bavaraia to Immanetise the Nazi Atrocity Exhibition?
(Macrophage)
Never heard of any of that.

Anyone else with any magic trivia questions?
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
10:32 / 26.07.05
Spare lived in Brixton, at least in his later years. That's where his studio was when it got hit during the blitz, at any rate. In an essay written by Kenneth Grant, we are informed that Spare chose Brixton as his base of operations because of his overwhelming love for curry goat and passion for collecting obscure dancehall 12 inches.
 
  

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