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We3 to be a movie?

 
  

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Mistoffelees
13:33 / 08.06.05
Writer Grant Morrison is in negotiations to adapt his "We3" comic book into a feature film for New Line Cinema. "We3" was a three-issue limited series written by Morrison and drawn by Frank Quitely. It revolved around three pets -- a dog, a cat and a bunny -- kidnapped from their homes by the government and hard-wired into military battle suits, turning into robo-assassins. When their government masters deem them expendable, they break out into the free world and try to find their true home, all the while reverting to their more traditional animallike behavior.

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I put this here, because in Film less Lithers may know, what this is all about.
 
 
Spaniel
14:15 / 08.06.05
Hmm, if it happens it could actually be alright.
New Line have got behind edgier properties in their time, and We3 really is a very simple, hollywood friendly story. They really do need to keep the violence intact, though - to make the most of it, loike.

Good B-movie fun, I reckon. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:24 / 08.06.05
Totally. "Good B-movie fun" is exactly what they should aim for- it's the only way I can see them not fucking it up. Not sure why I feel this, but feel it I do.
Bear in mind that a lot of what made the comic so fab was its use and subvcersion of comic book traditions and techniques- obviously that's all got to go (to do it all stylised-like, a la Sin City, would detract a lot from the emotional content, I would think).
I'm quietly (Quitely?) optimistic.
 
 
Mistoffelees
14:49 / 08.06.05

They´re probably rewriting the whole story, because the comic-story has no potential for a "star" to be the main character.

My guess:
The Inventor with his love interest will run to find We3, while he has the evil general hunting down the animal with his beastly mecha-gorilla (pit-bull may be too small for the screen), and the clock is ticking 24-style.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:26 / 08.06.05
I wonder if the animals will have those easter-egg pastel colored exoskeletons they have on the cover of the We3 paperback (as opposed to the regular gray/silver ones they had in the story).
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
15:44 / 08.06.05
they might as well do the entire movie in CGI based on Quitely's art. I mean, it's already cinematic enough on paper. that's your ready-to-go storyboard right there, waiting to be animated as it is.

I'm very happy to hear about this, even more with the interest in getting Morrison to write the script - although they could go the SIN CITY route and have it adapted atraight from the comic; dunno why it's need a script.

only worrying thing here is Don Murphy's involvement. I mean, FROM HELL and LXG...
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
15:54 / 08.06.05
Wouldn't We3 be too short to adapt straight off? I'd estimate that taking it straight from the comic would only give you about 45 mins of footage.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
16:00 / 08.06.05
Oh shit, this would rock. You need to get the panel with the cat going all samurai death-god on the doberman in, and they need to get that wonderful battle on the freeway with cars flipping and piling up around We4.

I could see the micropanels translating really really well to the movie. I can see all of frank's micropanels stuff translating really well to a movie - they just need to get someone with the balls to go completely stylistic with it. Tarintino would be fucking perfect for this - he does dialouge bullshit second only to Grant, he does the sylistic flair like no other and he does the ultraviolence.

Fuck. I have a boner for this movie already.
 
 
Triplets
16:47 / 08.06.05
Totally. "Good B-movie fun" is exactly what they should aim for- it's the only way I can see them not fucking it up.

For some reason, I keep thinking the Bourne Supremacy/Identity fits this the tone of the book more than anything else I've seen recently. Just replace Matt Demon with a golden retreiver.

I wonder if the animals will have those easter-egg pastel colored exoskeletons they have on the cover of the We3 paperback (as opposed to the regular gray/silver ones they had in the story).

God forbid they get the colour of Tinker's iodes the wrong shade of orange.


...The Inventor with his love interest will run to find We3, while he has the evil general hunting down the animal with his beastly mecha-gorilla

You can imagine the meetings can't you:

"Well, what if the evil science guy turns out to be cloning DINOSAURS on the side right, we can totally milk that 'science gone wrong' theme, and you know how kids love those themes, y'know? We'll loan the T-Rex from Richard Attenborough, glue some knives and pipes to it. And replace it's feet with sharks. This is gonna rock your face off"
 
 
Mug Chum
18:03 / 08.06.05
oh c'mon, you guys know this piece will be completly re-written. There won't be the panicky-wild-animal violence and raw emotion the comics have. It won't have the subtle relationship the animals have. It'll be filled with cliches of animal stories (not to mention the bad-military cliches that'll also have). I can only imagine as some "Inspector Gadget" kind of film... The kind of film that'll go straight to dvd here in Brazil, unnoticed... or at best, in my pessimism, it will be like that new "Stealth" (the one with Jamie Foxx) combined with "The Incredible Journey".

(sorry for the pessimism, i'm just sad that this film will be Morrison's first adaptation in Hollywood... it could be only downhill for him from here on, concerning films and mainstream media...).

Even if Morrison is the one who'll write the script, I'm not sure if he's a good screenwriter (he's my favorite comic writer by far, but they're very different mediums, on opposite to what everyone thinks). I find it REALLY hard to imagine WE3 as a good film. It's a good comic (you can tell i'm NOT a guy who reads comics translating into film in my mind, imagining it all Bruckheimer-style...). I'm not really certain it's adaptable (maybe as a "Mummy" kind of film, kinda trashy, not taking it self seriously). But even as a concept, it's fresh and cool by following comics' tendencies in it's own medium and publishing line, and not film's. Morrison is original to comics (film industry is always late, Morrison will seem a loon or a wanker to them, including the audience).

New Line is the one who's doing the Peter Jackson's King Kong, right???


(and oh, i'm so f*^#@& sure they'll make these animals speak normally, really sweet and cute. Maybe even like Gollum with that baby-like pronunciation...)

lots'a hugs! and sorry for misspellings... i'm sleepy as hell and english isn't really my primary language
 
 
Rawk'n'Roll
20:30 / 08.06.05
I can imagine it becoming The Incredible Journey with guns... which is what it's intended to be.
Edgy violence and intense imagery aside it is ostensibly about three animals looking for a way home who happen to have a vast arsenal strapped to their backs.

This could go down many routes.
I'd hope that Morrison would only allow an adaptation that is faithful to the atmosphere of the story as opposed to the nitty gritty (expect a redesign of the exo-suits for a start).

It could very easily become a substandard Garfield-esque carcrash of a movie. But at the same time, if made in a "Bourne Identity" style I think the producers would be worried that it would lose the target audience and therefore lose it's potential for mass appeal. With that much CGI it has to be aimed at as large a market as possible.
 
 
matsya
23:13 / 08.06.05
You know, the only person who could do the comic justice is Hayao "My Neighbour Tortoro" Miyazaki. As an anime.

Otherwise you're going to have the US Godzilla syndrome all over again.

TPB came to my comic shop this week. Ver' excited.

m.
 
 
The Falcon
23:28 / 08.06.05
Yeah, well, Miyazaki is the primary influence. Check the doc without an oriental name who looks exactly like him.

Would make too much sense to have this happen.

p.s. Julianne Moore for Tinker. 's a girl-cat.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:29 / 09.06.05
Just replace Matt Demon with a golden retreiver.

What, Luke from the OC? Who'd notice?
 
 
louisemichel
07:38 / 09.06.05
Could some of you be positive ?
this is a fucking good news, and it means Grant and Vince will get payed a lot of money for a project that deserves to sells millions but sold thousands if the movie is greenlighted.
And I don't understand why you shit on New Line. As a product unit, they did a wonderful job on LOTR.
As for Gollum, waow, he speaks as in the books. Must be wrong !
Judge the quality of the movie when you see it, not before...
 
 
Spaniel
08:13 / 09.06.05
Louise, that people are being realistic about the movie is a good thing. The fact is that it's unlikely to remain entirely faithful to the comic, and let's face it Hollywood has a track-record of fucking up decent properties.
New Line is a studio like any other: they've got it right in the past, and they've got it very, very wrong.

Personally I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a fun movie. What I'm not expecting to see, however, is Grant and Vince's vision unsullied onscreen. Morrison might be in negotiations to write the thing, but scribes don't usually exert much power over a production - they're almost at the bottom of the creative food-chain.

Oh, and bear in mind that it's early days. The film might never get off the ground.
 
 
Spaniel
08:18 / 09.06.05
Also for those of you who don't think We3 is natural Hollywood product.

Perfuckinglease

It's based on the Incredible Journey, for fuckeye. It's the incredible journey with GUNS.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
08:30 / 09.06.05
This will only work if they get the right actors for the voiceover roles.

At the moment I'm liking;

Bandit - George Clooney
Tinker - Winona Ryder
Pirate - Robbie Williams
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:39 / 09.06.05
this is a fucking good news, and it means Grant and Vince will get payed a lot of money for a project that deserves to sells millions but sold thousands if the movie is greenlighted.

Can I just say that I _really_ like that, if calling a comic creator by his first name does not suggest that you are best friends and toe-wrestle with each other regularly enough, your next stage is to refer to them by their real names rather than their noms de plume, to imply that you grew up just round the corner from them and regularly played football in the street as children. This is particularly good as it means that anyone who is not similarly inclined will not have a clue what you are talking about.

Of course, only I know Grant's secret real name, and that is only because he talks in his sleep.
 
 
louisemichel
08:43 / 09.06.05
oh, sorry.
I'm so fucking sorry by calling people by their name.
I should have said "George Morrison" and Frank Quitely".
Like nobody ever called them Grant and Vince here...
But I think I disgress...
 
 
louisemichel
08:48 / 09.06.05
Ok, now, just another thing.
What you do when you sign a movie option is give the studio the right to do everything it wants with the property.
Believe me, after the damn thing is signed, if they want to do a gay porn with We3, they can. That's why you must judge the movie after it's completed.
Knowing that Grant, sorry, Mr Grant Morrison sir, is negociating to write the movie is an insurance they won't fuck to much with the property.
This is not art, boys, it's business.
And for one, I know that both creators need the money, because creators, as a lot, need that money. Except Alan Moore, but he's a loony.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:02 / 09.06.05
Back on the movie (and should this be in Film, TV and Theatre, by the way? See V for Vendetta).... there's a lot of talk about Incredible Journey, which is no doubt a classic, but it is a classic that was created over 40 years ago. Leaving aside the 1993 remake (although Michael J Fox, illness permitting, would be perfect as Bandit), is anyone gasping for more? Heavily-armed cute animals has been sort of covered off in Cats and Dogs, and the danger of scientists creating monstrous animals in the underrated classic Man's Best Friend? (Ally Sheedy and Lance Henriksen on the same movie - Heaven).. where does one go? I'm thinking, as mentioned above, that it would have to centre around various humans, with the animals providing a kind of special effect; a movie with the narrative focus on animals - unless you go completely Ghibli, and even then the animals tend to be anthropomorphic - would not, I think, engage enough adults, and one aimed at children would have to tone down the violence to a ludicrous extent.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
09:48 / 09.06.05
Of course only I know Grant's secret name, and that is only because he talks in his sleep

Again this with you...

Folks, anyone who claims here, or anywhere else, to know what George Morrison's 'Urgh' face looks like who isn't me is lying to you...

That aside, I suppose this project might work if it's extremely violent - otherwise I'd agree there possibly isn't much point.
 
 
Spaniel
10:22 / 09.06.05
Louise, will you please stop ranting.

The thing is, I'm not saying that the film should be judged before it's been greenlit, I'm saying that we should probably have realistic expectations.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
10:57 / 09.06.05
WE3, ideally, would be directed by Chris Cunningham and told directly from the animals point of view.

For me, its essential that he violence and anti-human ambience remains.

Could be a very strange, dirty, uneasy movie.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:07 / 09.06.05
Don't be an idiot, Boboss. The important thing here is that Andy and Vince are getting paid the money they richly deserve for being lovely.
 
 
The Falcon
11:15 / 09.06.05
Stop baiting, Haus.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:38 / 09.06.05
You know you've overstepped the mark when Duncan is telling you to stop being offensive.

Fair enough. Yawn makes an interesting point - if there were some attempt to reflect in the filming how the animals perceived the world, that might make it a lot more interesting, but probably also, if it was a dominant thread rather than some cool POV effects, less commercial.

I think the plot of We3 is perfectly transferrable to film, but the execution, given that it depended so much on Vince Neil's artwork and the text layout of the dialogue, would be a lot harder to do. I have a feeling this may be lost in developement Hell for a couple of years and then quietly abandoned.
 
 
Jack Fear
11:40 / 09.06.05
For me, its essential that he violence and anti-human ambience remains.

Could be a very strange, dirty, uneasy movie.


Yes indeed. But it'll be very, very tricky to pull off, because of of the irreducible difference between comics and film: there's no sound in comics, no voices, and the reader doesn't necessarily provide the voices in hir head.

D'you know what I mean? When the animals "speak" in the comic, we as readers aren't really thinking about how they sound—we're keying in to their emotional states. They talk in emotional aggregates, if you will. They don't sound like anything.

In a movie, though, the animals will have to audibly speak. And that's here it's all going to fall apart.

If they cast human voice actors, then the whole thing becomes Look Who's Talking Now with guns—impossible to take seriously. If they go for realism—with buzzy, metallic Stephen Hawking / Cylon-style voice synthesizers—it will present a huge barrier to audience identification; the cold, inhuman quality won't just make it hard to sympathize with We3, it will prove actively alienating.

And if the audience doesn't identify with We3, then the story becomes a science-gone-wrong monster movie with human heroes. And that would be missing the point entirely.

Of course, it wouldn't be the first point Don Murphy has done such a thing. Populism and vulgarity do not have to be synonyms, but Mr. Murphy's keen Hollywood instincts seem founded on the idea that entertainment must be loud, and that art has no place in it. His commentary track on the LXG DVD was a creepy, mesmerizing listen, a glimpse into everything that's wrong with the movie business. It's the aural equivalemnt of staring into the dead, soulless eyes of a murderer.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
12:29 / 09.06.05
Have you seen that bizarre Squarepusher video with the dogs brain and the man's brain being swapped? Might have been Cunningham who directed, not sure - older (prob 98, 99)and much much darker than 'Where's your head at' vid with human faced monkeys - all the same, it's the weird, nightmarish disjointed feel of such videos, coupled with Cunningham's ability to animate the ugly and absurd (dancing demon-faced beauties, robot-love) in very beautidful ways, that cuold pull WE3 off as a damn good, difficult but gorgeous, 'art-house' movie.

I can hear the fucked up speech of the animals, electronically sampled barks etc. (Can you hear that spiky black bark that the Rotweiler emmitted? dark) Cunningham would be great for homing in on the bodily aspects of the animals, the saliva, the enzymes bubbling away. Cunningham can access primal emotion very very easily with his art - think of the sheer terror of screaming tele demon 'shouting' at the old lady in aphex twin - I reckon he could get into the psychwe of ther animals without making them human.

I'm thinking this is a one hour movie.

Just dug this up:

"Film director Chris Cunningham, whose macabre Aphex Twin promo "Come To Daddy", won him a D&AD silver this year, continues down the same unsettling vein with his latest film.

Set in a Japanese asylum for children, the video is for electronic musicians Squarepusher's single "Come On My Selector". The action revolves around a little girl escaping from the asylum by outwitting the guards via a cunning disguise and a brain- swapping operation between one of the guards and her dog. It begins with two minutes of dialogue and the Japanese style infographics and computer screens were created by Alex Rutterford, senior designer at Lost In Space. "
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
12:53 / 09.06.05
At the risk of appearing optimistic, I'd hope that they eschew celebrity voices for sampled vocals, such as those which were used for Amy the gorilla in Congo.
 
 
Spaniel
13:29 / 09.06.05
Vincent, Haus. Show some respect.
 
 
Triplets
13:35 / 09.06.05
Compromise: Cast voice actors good enough to provide strong emotional inflection then run those voice tracks through an 80s vocoder. Buzzy emotional gudness.
 
 
Triplets
13:36 / 09.06.05
PS. bestest best best topic abstract ever.
 
 
louisemichel
13:59 / 09.06.05
Boboss, will you please stop acting like you're my father ?
Even if i love you as if you were my father...
(insert voice of little kid with Michael Jackson here...)
 
  

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