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Nine Inch Nails - With Teeth

 
  

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Jack The Bodiless
22:43 / 01.04.05
So - Trent Reznor's new album - free of drink, free of drugs, Reznor says he's ready to take on the world. Early word says it's tight, funky, angry as fuck and gnarly like a motherfucker...

Apparently if The Fragile is Nine Inch Nails' version of Pink Floyd', this is their Iggy & The Stooges. Discuss?
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
22:50 / 01.04.05
Personally, and having not yet heard the album, I really like the (probably completely accidental) fact that the tracklisting reads like a lyric...

All The Love In The World
You Know What You Are?
The Collector
The Hand That Feeds
Love Is Not Enough
Every Day Is Exactly The Same
With Teeth
Only
Getting Smaller
Sunspots
The Line Begins To Blur
Beside You In Time
Right Where It Belongs
 
 
agvvv
23:08 / 01.04.05
Downloading it right now.. really looking forward to this one.
 
 
agvvv
23:20 / 01.04.05
Ok.. impossible to know what is fake or not.. but I just downloaded "sunspots", and it contains samples from the zelda theme(no, not the regular nin zelda theme song), and is purely instrumental. Is this the actual song?
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
23:23 / 01.04.05
Cannot say at this moment. I can download precisely Jack and Shit, and Jack just left town.
 
 
lekvar
00:18 / 02.04.05
I heard "Hand that Feeds" the other day and was gripped with irrational exuberance. Now I'm not the person to talk to if you want an objective examination of NIN's vitues, but I am totally fucking excited over this. "Hand that Feeds" sounded like a return to the leaner, angrier, more-self-loathinger-but-without-melancholy of Broken. I liked Downward Spiral and The Fragile, but I felt the ratio of inrospection-to-grind were a little skewed.
 
 
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02:55 / 02.04.05
I'm quite looking foward to this one also. I saw NIN live back in 2000 and it was one of the greatest nights of my life.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:18 / 02.04.05
I'm REALLY hyped about this. Six fucking years, Mr R. I'm trying to hold off on the downloadiness in favour of leaving a shop with the object itself clutched in my hands, all packaged and spoiler-free...

I can't fucking wait.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
15:17 / 02.04.05
Apparently if The Fragile is Nine Inch Nails' version of Pink Floyd, this is their Iggy And The Stooges

I can't remember the last time I was excited about anything, but this sounds great.

'Pparently the live shows have been fantastic as well - in the reviews I've read, there was a strong impression the crits went along with the stated intent of giving Reznor a shoeing, but just couldn't bring themselves to do it.

Also hugely impressed by the fact that, judging by the photos and song titles, age doesn't seem to have withered the guy at all.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:27 / 02.04.05
So there's something to be said for living in the Manson house, goddamn - if the shares work out, I'll be all about that place.

To wake up every morning with the unborn ghost of S Tate floating around the joint would, let's face it, be the absolute cat's pyjamas.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:31 / 02.04.05
Sorry, that should have read;

'the unborn ghost of S Tate's child'
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
07:14 / 03.04.05
The Tate/Polanski house has now been demolished... just after Mr R moved out a few years back.

Anyone going to the gigs?
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
19:28 / 03.04.05
Ma'at, Cass and tiny friend went on Thursday night - said it was extraordinary. It was said Tiny Friend's first ever proper gig experience. He cried. Bless.

Also, on a related Michael Trent Reznor note - a recent interview in Kerrang! on the subject of The Man In Black's appropriation of 'Hurt' to use as his own eulogy... rather like Otis Redding, faced with Aretha Franklin's cover of 'Respect', REznor has stated that as far a he's concerned, it's not just his song anymore. Apparently he was recording with Zack De La Rocha when a copy of the video arrived, and it even shut him up.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:39 / 04.04.05
Yeah, I thought of you when I read that- I remember you saying ages ago what a cool thing it'd be for him to say that.

I'm going in July, and I can't fucking wait. (Was gonna get a bunch of spare tickets, but we were restricted to two each.)
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
08:56 / 04.04.05
Photek on the remixes for the 'The Hand That Feeds' single...should be interesting.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
14:52 / 04.04.05
I was their on Thursday. paid through the teeth to get tickets as a result of a disasterous bit of ticket speculation on Ebay. One of the best gigs I've been to in a long time, my only complaint is it was two short (well and the amount of money I paid), I could've listened to them for another hour or two. I think the hi-light of the night had to be Hurt and I think the reason it was the the hi-light was Johnny Cash, I'm not sure if that makes any sense. I was bot surprised and deeply impressed with both the bands musical ability and Trent's voice range, the recorded live stuff I've heard before does not do them credit.

By far an away the funniest thing about the evening us lot, the fans, we may have once been angry industrial fan teens but now we're all mid 20's to 30's everyone's dead polite and pleasant, it looked like a lot of people had dug out there old clothes to wear out. Most amusing, I felt like my parents at an Everley Brother concert.
 
 
alterity
23:54 / 16.04.05
As I am sure a great number of people know, now available for preorder (with goodies).
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:30 / 18.04.05
So the single came out today- I bought it and it's awesome. It's stuck in my head already.
 
 
buttergun
20:29 / 18.04.05
I've heard the album, and it's pretty good. I like it more than The Fragile, even though it sounds pretty much like nothing else in NIN's catalog.

I was a NIN freak throughout college (during the NIN heyday of '92-'96), and was underwhelmed by The Fragile, other than several tracks. I kinda wished Reznor would've continued in the vein of Perfect Drug (still my favorite NIN track), but other than Starfuckers, The Fragile operated on a totally different key.

With Teeth is, well...it's pretty damn poppy. I mean that in a good way, though. I remember when The Fragile came out, a lot of critics opined that it didn't do well commercially and critically because people at that time were more into positive music -- re the late '90s success of Brittney, etc. I wonder if this made Reznor think he needed to do something less angsty?

Early favorites on this new one so far are The Hand that Feeds (by far my favorite of them all), Only, Beside You in Time, The Collector, and All the Love in the World. Most of the tracks feature an upbeat, sometimes dancey beat, over which synths and distorted guitar are overlaid. Nothing features the drum n' bass that defined Perfect Drug, but then again, not much of it sounds like anything on The Fragile.

Maybe only one or two tracks sound like "standard" NIN. Beside You in Time is one -- it does in fact sound like a track that could easily have been on The Fragile or even Downward Spiral. About 3 1/2 minutes in, the synths begin to pulse until the track explodes into a distorted, unhinged guitar pulsing away on the same riff -- if you were to play this for anyone, they'd instantly know it was Nine Inch Nails. Right Where It Belongs, the last track, is similar to Hurt from Downward Spiral -- the live version, at least, as the track samples a cheering crowd (possibly from an NIN show?) beneath the depressed music and lyrics. Finally, You Know What You Are reminds me very much of Burn.

The Hand That Feeds, though, that's one great track. I'm looking forward to hearing the Photek remix one of these days.
 
 
buttergun
20:31 / 18.04.05
Forgot to add one thing -- even though it's coming out 14 years later, With Teeth sounds more like a follow-up to Pretty Hate Machine than any of the preceding NIN albums. Because unlike them, it doesn't operate on one theme, and it isn't a "concept album" of any sort. It's just a bunch of songs with great production, good beats, good riffs, and insightful lyrics. Whether The Hand That Feeds will eventually become the fan-favorite that Head Like a Hole is, only time will tell.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
22:11 / 18.04.05
I really like 'The Hand That Feeds'! It's pop as fuck! I thought this band were really gloomy and miserable but this is great...
 
 
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03:54 / 19.04.05
I've been forcing myself to listen to the local "alternative" radio station recently in hope of hearing the new NIN single (my brothers swear they play it on this station constantly) but still no luck... Yet I have heard "Head Like a Hole" and "Closer" over and over again. Both great songs, mind, but I want to hear the new stuff! Guess I'll have to get the single... Oh well, I was going to anyway!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:54 / 19.04.05
'sfunny- especially after what buttergun says about the album- a lot of the press I've read, and comments I've heard from people who've heard the single on the radio and stuff, seem really taken aback by how poppy it is.
I've always considered Pretty Hate Machine to be a pop album (quite a dark pop album, sure, like The The's "Infected")- the thing I've always loved about NIN is TR's ability to weld really catchy hooks to these big slabs of noise- remember all the flak he got from people like Bill Leeb and the "old-skool" industrialists when PHM first came out, for precisely that reason?

Obviously, not having heard the album yet, I've only got Hand... to go on, but I've been waiting for him to do something like this again. (Well, I've been waiting for him to do ANYTHING for quite a while, but you know what I mean...)
 
 
buttergun
14:21 / 19.04.05
Antichrist, I can't stress enough how poppy this album is. Wait until you hear "All the Love in the World," the first track. It starts off like "typical" NIN, throbbing bass, brooding atmosphere, a nice computerized breakbeat, and ends as a rocking stomper with piano accompaniment, a mean fuzz bass, and a singalong chorus with multiple Reznor vocals that reminds me, well, of like an advertisement or something: "I'd like to give the wold a Coke," or something...but then again, that might just be me.
 
 
buttergun
14:22 / 19.04.05
Meant to add – that singalong chorus is “Why do you get all the love in the world?”, and trust me, it WILL get stuck in your head for days after hearing the album.
 
 
buttergun
15:20 / 19.04.05
For those who got the single for Hand That Feeds – what’s the Photek remix like? One of my favorite NIN singles has always been the one for Perfect Drug, mostly due to the Meat Beat Manifesto and NIN remixes. Is the Photek mix of Hand… anything like those?
 
 
buttergun
20:52 / 19.04.05
Hell with it, I’ve become obsessed! Track-by-track thoughts on With Teeth:

All the Love in the World: Starts off like "typical" NIN, with melodic bass, a brooding atmosphere, and an Autechre-style breakbeat. Gradually becomes a rocking stomper with piano accompaniment, a mean fuzz bass, a pounding beat, and a sing-along chorus with multiple Reznor vocals that reminds me, well, of like an advertisement or something: "I'd like to give the world a Coke," or something...but then again, that might just be me. Sing-along chorus is “Why do you get all the love in the world?”, and trust me, it WILL get stuck in your head for days after hearing the album. A great opening track, and unlike any other in the NIN catalog.

You Know What You Are: Reminds me a lot of Burn, from the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. A computerized drum pattern similar in some ways to March of the Pigs. Sounds like an old-school NIN rager. Trent screams “Don’t you know what you fucking are?” in the chorus.

The Collector: Imagine Piggy from Downward Spiral, only sped up a bit and with more of a dance feel than a jazzy one. Drums and bass guitar carry the verses, with distorted guitar on bridge and chorus. I don’t think this one would’ve sounded out of place on The Fragile. The end descends into an off-kilter, jazzy piano deal that reminds me a lot of David Bowie’s “Outside”- era music.

The Hand that Feeds: It saddens me that so many so-called NIN “fans” deride this track as a “sell-out,” “too poppy,” etc. It’s as if these freaks have never heard Pretty Hate Machine. In all honesty, this could stand as one of my favorite NIN tracks ever. It’s got Pretty Hate Machine-era rhythm, Broken-era guitars, and great lyrics. It’s the perfect symbiosis of NIN’s early dance roots and later industrial-metal rage.

Love is Not Enough: Starts off slow and foreboding. Has that Pretty Hate Machine sound, only more modern, with more “live” instrumentation, except for the drums, which are a sampled beat. Wicked guitars on the chorus, totally distorted. Reznor does that “speaking/singing” thing during the verses. Toward the end, some very cool harmonics guitars pop up against the main riff.

Every Day is Exactly the Same: If there was ever an album titled “Pretty Hate Machine II,” this track would be on it. It’s got the keyboard rhythm foundation, the hummable melody, the sing-along chorus. Hearing this, it’s hard to imagine this is the same guy who gave us March of the Pigs. Middle section features Reznor in a speaking/singing section about leaving a letter for a lover.

With Teeth: Starts off like Piggy, again: heavy, jazzy drums from a real-life drummer, with fuzz bass and distorted guitar accompaniment. I like this track a lot, it’s another example of how Reznor can take something so foreboding and craft it into a melody that sticks in your brain. Unfortunately, the track drops off three minutes in for a long spell of piano ambience, which some may find “arty,” but I just find annoying. Goes on for a little over a minute before the song itself comes back with force, this time with distorted guitars blaring throughout. ROCK!

Only: After hearing the first few beats, you half-expect Gwen Stefani or Pink to start singing. Seriously, it’s THAT poppy. You could probably argue that this track sounds more like something off Pretty Hate Machine than any other on With Teeth, like a cross between Down In It and Sin. Reznor speaks the lyrics throughout the verse: “Sometimes I can see right through myself.” Those who are quick to scream “sell-out” will hate this track more than any other, but I like it a lot. Word of caution: the bass riff will get stuck in your head, guaranteed.

Getting Smaller: This track rocks, plain and simple. But it doesn’t rock like an older NIN track, like Wish or Burn; it rocks more like something by the Foo Fighters or recent Primal Scream. Ever wondered what NIN would sound like if they were a “traditional” hard rock group, without industrial instrumentation like keyboards, samples, and loops? Well, wonder no more. Raging guitars, pounding drums, screamed vocals, this is a definite standout. “My world is getting smaller everyday, and that’s okay.”

Sunspots: Another slow and mellow track with heavy drums and a thick bass. The chorus features the most melodic use of white noise I’ve ever heard. The guitars crop up eventually, and the rhythm speeds up a little, but this one’s a slow burner all the way.

The Line Begins to Blur: Sounds a lot like something from The Fragile. Distorted rhythm section, repetitive beat. Reznor screams the lyrics, sounding like he’s down a well. The chorus seems to be from a different song altogether, very melodic and mellow.

Beside You in Time: Another track with that Fragile-era sound. Reznor provides mellow vocals over a pulsing synth riff, with a drum loop quietly pounding beneath. This goes on without much variation until everything drops out except for the synths, which throb louder and louder until they explode into a welter of distorted guitars, which chug along on the same riff. A GREAT moment. As if to contradict this malevolent vibe, Reznor provides airy, dreamy vocals, which seem to float unscathed above the din.

Right Where It Belongs: Similar in many ways to Hurt, off Downward Spiral, especially the live version which can be found on Further Down the Spiral. Mellow and depressed, a piano provides the melody, with sinister feedback zapping alongside it. No drums. Reznor sounds a bit like he’s on a short-wave radio. Eventually a sampled live audience appears, further giving it that Hurt sound. Doesn’t build up to a crescendo; instead, it ends with the piano playing solo. A saddened ending to an otherwise upbeat album.

Here’s something funny: while writing this review, and mentally comparing the tracks with those on pervious NIN albums, I’ve realized this is my favorite Nine Inch Nails album. Every track has something great, and overall it’s one hell of an enjoyable listen. Besides, who needs “all angst, all the time?” It’s a new millennium, let’s try to make it a more positive one.
 
 
Not in the Face
08:10 / 20.04.05
All the Love in the World: Starts off like "typical" NIN. . . becomes a rocking stomper with piano accompaniment, a mean fuzz bass, a pounding beat, and a sing-along chorus

That sounds great! Thanks to this thread I'm really excited about going and seeing him again, as opposed to 'hmm, could be fun' I was in earlier
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:57 / 20.04.05
Buttergun- wow. That post was like music porn. Thank you.

Photek remixes- the first is basically just a slightly different mix of the original- the dub version is more bangin', more droney-
-to be honest, unlike Perfect Drug, unless you like the song anyway I wouldn't recommend getting it just for the remixes; they're good, but not that far removed from the original. Not a problem when the song's this great, though.

(And much as I hate to plug Virgin, if you buy the CD single, DVD single and 9" vinyl all at once you can get the lot for six quid. Not sure how long the offer lasts, though.)
 
 
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04:30 / 21.04.05
None of the CD stores in my area even had the single... wtf...
 
 
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04:22 / 29.04.05
There's a link on the NIN website that takes you to a site where you can hear the whole album (it's slightly under an hour). Really great stuff, but I don't want to go make too many judgements until I give it a few more listens.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:19 / 29.04.05
Cheers, Sypha, but there's something about the whole "rushing out to buy an album on its day of release" ritual which I love. That's not to say I'm not reeeaaallly fucking tempted, though...
 
 
Chiropteran
16:23 / 29.04.05
First time through, nothing really *clicked* with me at all, which is a little disappointing. But, I remember that Downward Spiral was the same way for me, and it rose quickly to become a Classic Album for me (in Seth's sense). I just started my second listen, and the first track is already gripping me a little more.

*listens a bit longer...*

Yeah, no, yeah... I think... Ooooh. Yeah.
 
 
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03:07 / 30.04.05
Well, being a live for the moment type I figured "Hey, the world could be hit by a comet tommorow, and I'd be really pissed if that'd happen before I got a chance to hear the new NIN album". I'm justified (I'll be buying it the day it comes out also, I just have no willpower when it comes to temptation).

Having heard it again today, it definetly sounded better the second time. I also found myself being not that crazy about TDS at first, not because I found it too weird (after all, I got my first Throbbing Gristle CD way before I started getting into NIN), it's just nothing really leapt out at me (except maybe "Closer"), but after awhile it started growing on me. This'll probably be one of those albums.

The first and final track are very pretty, both of them almost soothing in places. "You Know What You Are" and "The Collector" are two of my favorites, being prototypical hard rockers in the classic NIN style, while "The Hand That Feeds", which I wasn't that crazy about at first, I'm really starting to enjoy. "With Teeth" is one of the best tracks, "Beside You in Time" is almost hypnotic, and "Only" starts off sounding like music from a Soft Cell album or something, while "Everyday is Exactly the Same" sounds like something that could have come off "The Fragile". The only real weak point I felt was track 5 "Love is Not Enough", but again I've only heard the album twice, sooo... still early.

It sounds like Reznor had more fun making this album then usual. I would have liked to see at least one instrumental, but, oh well. It's better then "The Fragile" (which is still a great, alebit flawed album in it's own right), and, while not as good as "TDS", is maybe equal with "Pretty Hate Machine". A fun listen, despite the fact there's nothing as catchy as "Head Like a Hole" or as pissed-off sounding as "Happiness in Slavery" or "Last" (though "You Know What You Are" comes close). I'll be interested to read the lyrics for this, it seems like Trent put more work into them then he did in "The Fragile".
 
 
Harlen M Quint
05:52 / 01.05.05
Here is the link to listen to the full album

I spent my afternoon reading and listening to it over and over again. I have to say that "With Teeth" is well worth the wait, and quite a bit better than expected. Enjoy!
 
  

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