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Pyewacket The Elder
22:45 / 15.02.08
Arse sorry mucked that link up LINKY YO!
 
 
Haloquin
13:19 / 16.02.08
The use of boxes is neither unprecedented nor profane - it was a common factor in Egypt and indeed in India most shrines seem to occupy small dwellings

I had no belief it was, profanity or precedence hadn't really crossed my mind tbh. It just struck a chord when I read about it and the folks I work with were happy with the idea.

Its still worth checking with your particular folks though, if you're coming from a culture/tradition in which you haven't seen boxes used, and/or you personally haven't used them before, then your particular people may not be completely happy with it.

I work with neither Egyptian nor Indian practices, so I wouldn't want to apply their customs without checking that the beings I'm applying it to will be happy working with them.

Its good to learn about though, thanks. I shall check out the links.
 
 
Pyewacket The Elder
21:04 / 17.02.08
Hey sorry didn't mean to cause offense - you are totally right it depends on the folk you are talking to. With the Neteru you are welcome to place them in carefully/genially made boxes and indeed with food offerings you can take the left-overs and present them to 'lesser' gods (and the locals in ancient Egypt) whereas in other methodologies you must present the food and take a sample whilst counting the rest as 'dead' (spiritually) - it really is THAT variable and THAT inconsistent - there are NO hard-and-fast-rules..you can only do THAT which is particular to a particular pantheon/gestalt/whatever and humbly seek the response. You will only reap that which you sow, however, and that is the real crux of the matter (for what it's worth). best of luck with all sincerety.
 
 
Haloquin
22:29 / 19.02.08
No offense taken!

The link was interesting. The boxes made for sale on that site remind me of open/closable triptychs, they're more like little cupboards.

Its interesting that they are described as being to keep the sacred objects out of sight/touch of non-priestly type people. When constructing my box alter I was concerned to make sure it wasn't as though I was placing them out of sight... if that makes sense? One of my main worries was that it would become a box for 'putting away' and have an 'out of sight, out of mind' effect. So far it actually draws more attention than any other kind of alter as the box buzzes and draws my attention, and the objects aren't collecting dust looking pretty, they are taken out and put back so I actually engage with them. I always intend to do that with other types of alters, but it hasn't happened yet. The act of taking the objects out of the box, laying them out, and then putting them back gives a sense of ritual and reverence to the whole situation, and its a ritual I feel works.

Currently this has become a once a week thing, wherein I make a pot of tea, lay everything out, light candles and offer tea and biscuits. Then I talk to them and try to listen.

I figure I wouldn't normally invite relatives (or friends) round without offering them tea, so this should be no exception... and I got the impression it would be the kind of ritual to be appreciated.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
05:25 / 20.02.08
I have used shrines in boxes for various People and at various times, and I know a lot of folk who do the same. In some cases this is their main shrine; if you live in shared accomodation and need to protect your various bits from family, ferrets or nosey room-mates, a box which can be shut and maybe even locked is a good solution.

I like what you say about the act of removing and handling the objects making the whole system more powerful. I think it's so important to interact with one's altars. With a box you can also use the act of opening the box at the start of your rite and closing it again afterwards as good beginning and ending markers.

I don't keep any of my main shrines in boxes anymore but I do have two reliquaries, boxes filled with devotional items, on one of my major harrows.
 
 
Sekhmet
16:12 / 20.02.08
I am finding this concept fascinating and would love to explore it further, but we are a bit off-topic now... should we start a Reliquaries, Shrines and Boxes thread, or could this fall under the purview of the ALTARS thread?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
16:23 / 20.02.08
Worth bumping the altars thread, I reckon.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:18 / 01.11.11
Bump for awesomes.
 
  

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