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Conjuring Entities

 
  

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Gypsy Lantern
09:08 / 03.03.05
What would count for you as a visible appearance?
 
 
trouser the trouserian
09:21 / 03.03.05
Some more sources:

Occult Forums threads on Ceremonial magic - some potentially useful info on Goetia here, along with the usual foaf scare-stories and a pdf of Franz Bardon on on evocation.
 
 
Unconditional Love
13:47 / 03.03.05
i find evoking/invoking myself the hardest thing in the world, ive given up trying and it just happened.

ive had visible appearence of entities in altered states nde and drug induced, so they could be written off as hallucination if your so inclined. but at the time they were visible enough.

you smoking alot of hash while using the goetia and then blaming breathing problems on demons?

i also get alot of visual distortion, material possession? of a batik of kali i have been reciting the 1000 names of kali too of late, she smiles and blinks, and shiva is beginning to look happier and happier while peeping up her skirt of arms,always new that yogi thing was a front.

kali has not started talking or laughing or roaring(howling?) as she is described as doing as of yet i am sure she will with time, no pun intended.
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:20 / 03.03.05
Okay, now you’ve gotten me interested. I have some questions though:

1) I live on a lake and I wish to contact a water elemental. How would I go about doing it. Can someone spell out a ritual for me?
2) When you say ancestor spirit, specifically are we talking about the spirit of departed ancestors? Cause I’ve been thinking if you do your family tree backward in time it gets pretty large. (i.e. 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 16 great great grandparents, at the beginning of the 15th century there were 16,777,216 direct ancestors of mine living all over the planet and I'm thinking some of them had to've been Shamans, Magicians, Alchamists…) So I can conjure anyone of them? Can someone spell out a ritual for me on how to do this?
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
15:46 / 03.03.05
I live on a lake and I wish to contact a water elemental. How would I go about doing it. Can someone spell out a ritual for me?

Go and sit by the river and try to get a sense of it. Go every week. Try to get an idea of what it might like from you in the way of offerings. Maybe flowers, something to drink, something to eat. Maybe a comb, a mirror, some beads. Ask it what it wants and bring it these things. Talk to it. Introduce yourself. Try and make freinds with it. See where it all leads you.

at the beginning of the 15th century there were 16,777,216 direct ancestors of mine living all over the planet and I'm thinking some of them had to've been Shamans, Magicians, Alchamists…

Yes.

So I can conjure anyone of them? Can someone spell out a ritual for me on how to do this?

Build an ancestral altar. Make offerings. Light a candle. Talk to them. See what happens. See who comes through. See what they have to say to you.
 
 
Tamayyurt
16:27 / 03.03.05
Cool, thanks for your help... I'll get started right away.

If anybody has anything more to add please do.
 
 
gale
18:16 / 03.03.05
This is in reply to Xyu's query about reasons for evoking a demon.

I have personally never had a reason to evoke a goetic demon, but Lon Duquette, in his book "My Life With the Spirits" had a pretty good reason (he was out of work, had no job prospects, no car, and he, his wife, and young child were all going to be homeless). He evoked a demon, and it worked! He got exactly what he asked for.The way he describes it is also entertaining in the extreme.

I'm not sure you need to be in dire straits to evoke a spirit, but it probably makes you really, really want to do it.
 
 
LVX23
18:23 / 03.03.05
RE: Asthma

This has come up a bit over at the MLA Crowley 101 course (which is raging, BTW - 400+ posts in the first 3 days). Apparently this is very common when working with the higher centers. Some suggest that this occurs when the Ajna (crown) chakra is opened before the heart chakra. Apparently the heart chakra is often related to respiratory problems if it's clogged up and too inactive.

The advice then is, open the heart chakra before getting too far up the snake.
 
 
EvskiG
21:41 / 03.03.05
I think Reich said that physical symptoms like asthma can happen when you suddenly expand your capacities beyond what you're emotionally prepared to handle. (It sometimes happened to his patients after an intense session loosened their "character armor.") Using a different metaphor, the crown chakra gets opened before the heart chakra.

I believe Regardie supposedly cured himself of his own breathing disorders through Reichian therapy.
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:36 / 04.03.05
I want to report that I had a very successful contact with a water elemental last night and I’ve asked Finderwolf to help me with this working as I need to strengthen the connection. I’ll post more when I’ve had more interaction with it. Give me a week. I’m very excited though.
 
 
LykeX
16:12 / 04.03.05
Rock on, Impulselad!
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
05:52 / 08.03.05
This talk of water elementals is interesting to me, since the medium through which I seem to get my clearest signals is water. Could have something to do with my fishy sign. Of course, my most meditative (and, ahem, employing a common gnostic tactic, koffkoffspankitkoff) time of day is in the shower. One time I had something like a three-way conversation between my more anemic shell personality, my more aggressive (and damn remonstrative) repressed ficsuit persona, and then suddenly a calm, caring, mediating voice that seemed to emerge from the water. I've asked that voice to cleanse me of illnesses I've feared I've had, and symptoms have seemed to have disappeared, at least for a time. (Pretty much all the entities that I've had any sort of contact with come in the form of voices that, on a mundane level, I know I am producing, but at the same time they are not my voice.) As I am completely unfocused, however, these contacts have been few and far between, and seem to happen completely beyond my conscious ability to summon them up.

The nearest major body of water to where I live is the East River. I've done workings in the middle of it, both on Roosevelt Island and the Staten Island Ferry, but it's sometimes hard for me to judge the efficacy of these workings since they themselves start with specific aims that I garble and cast out onto the world. (I wonder, because of the specific nature of the medium in which I do these workings, as well as the entities' predominant manifestation in voice, whether a wind elemental is more appropriate, though at least for the former a water metaphor is also somewhat apt.) I fear my lack of knowledge in these matters impedes my ability to effect my will, which tends not to be terribly compelling to begin with.

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