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Redeeming Star Trek

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10:28 / 25.04.06

This is what we should be planning a sequel to, not boring old Star Trek!

Flash Gordon..................................Star Trek

Join your hands together Velvet, join your hands together.

Regrettable Juvenilia

11:13 / 25.04.06

demons and dead people (from Heel dimension)

Awesome! Would their leader be a horned, cloven-hooved alien known as Sei'Tunn or Loose-Eefurr, who says things like "Earth? Yes... I visited your puny planet... long... ago..."?

12:10 / 25.04.06

Come on, Flyboy, Flash Gordon himself may wind up with Dale at the end, but the Flash Gordon movie is the gayest (alright, campest) film EVAR!1!1! It's got Peter Duncan, lizard-men in make-up, men fighting each other with whips, and Brian Blessed in wings and a big nappy! This is what we should be planning a sequel to, not boring old Star Trek!

Well, there was that one scene where Ming's daughter got tortured while Ming watches with a raised eyebrow, but I'll let you form your own opinions on that.

demons and dead people (from Heel dimension)

Awesome! Would their leader be a horned, cloven-hooved alien known as Sei'Tunn or Loose-Eefurr, who says things like "Earth? Yes... I visited your puny planet... long... ago..."?

Well, yes, could be, why not? But I was thinking more of a lovecraftian Hell

My transhuman Star Trek would not be so much about enemies, as it would be about inter-personal relations. In a futuristc self-aware semi-organic ship that pretty much functions like a living entity, what would be the crew place in it? There certainly would not the old hierarchic structure at the Bridge (no captain, no first officer, no engineer, no etc etc) and people would be more like hormones/feromones or antibodies or means of communication and exploration for the ships. That sort of fucked up shit.

12:50 / 25.04.06

Awesome! Would their leader be a horned, cloven-hooved alien known as Sei'Tunn or Loose-Eefurr, who says things like "Earth? Yes... I visited your puny planet... long... ago..."?

Ahh, but this is the future of Roddenbury's godless utopia. He'd rant and rage and say "Bow before the Master of HELL!" and they'd be all like "Who're you supposed to be?" and he'd be all "I will burn you for your sins!" and they'd be all "Show us this Hell thing you call sinning."

Bish bash bosh, vaseline lens and everyone's kissing.

It'd be beautiful.

14:04 / 25.04.06

Actually, I think I'm just channelling Lexx.

Regrettable Juvenilia

14:12 / 25.04.06

But I was thinking more of a lovecraftian Hell

Awesome! "We serve the one called Kuh-Th'Loo!" Maybe the alien race could be called the Duyewsi?

That sort of fucked up shit.

It sounds a bit too fucked-up, man. The networks will never go for it.

15:21 / 25.04.06

The networks will never go for it.

Which is why I wish I was a billionaire. To have my own network.

But, then again, we can all put our hopes on...Cable TV!!!!

00:31 / 16.12.06

Now this is more like it.

A complete change in format, arc plotting, fast-forward 150 years dystopian setting and a captain who longs for the old days of exloration. I like it a lot and hope it gets off the ground.

Of course, I'd like it a lot more if it were contracted out to Studio Gainax and set in the TNG/DS9 timeline with appearances from those casts as voice actors. You could have any character from any incarnation and DS9 left the universe in a very interesting situation. There could be lots of interesting continuity porn and it would be easy to have the dark setting that people seem to be craving these days.

I suggest Gainax because they can actually, you know, animate. And they have awesome directors, ones who are so far ahead of the game that they make other shows look like relics. Whatever the case, they'd have to pay a lot of attention to the quality of the voice actors, which is something Trek has always had in abundance, whatever else you might say about it. Many of the actors (Auberjonois, Shimmerman, Shawn, Dorn) have voiced in animation previously and their respective best known characters in Trek have very distinctive deliveries.

American animation so frequently lets itself down with bad animation (too much motion used too shoddily) and crap, crap, crap acting. It'd be nice to see someone do it right for a change.

00:38 / 16.12.06

In fact, checking back, didn't I mention this as the way forward on the first page?

13:19 / 12.10.07

maybe we should get a new thread (or re-title this one?) about J.J. Abrams' new TREK movie?

We've got Simon Pegg (Shaun of the Dead) as Scotty (I love Pegg but that seems sort of odd...gimmicky and stunt casting-y) and a guy cast as Sulu. We've also got Uhura and Spock cast, etc. etc.

Rumors of the plot have leaked out, which are probably spot-on, but who knows.... the movie sounds good to me. If anyone can restore some quality to the Trek franchise, Abrams could be it.

17:18 / 12.10.07

While it's cool to see John Cho getting work, I am a bit put off by him playing Japanese.

It shouldn't in many ways, the biggest being non-Scots Simon Pegg, but, y'know, James Doohan. Precedent. (I am a wishwashy moralizing fanboy.)

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

17:47 / 12.10.07

I have to say Sylar as Spock is an eerily good choice.

18:05 / 12.10.07

We've got Simon Pegg (Shaun of the Dead) as Scotty (I love Pegg but that seems sort of odd...gimmicky and stunt casting-y)

I was on my way here to post this, but I've been beaten to it.

I just can't see it. I want to see it, it could be genius casting of the year, but I just can't get a mental picture, which bothers me.

06:37 / 13.10.07

I'm curious as to see where this is going.

Is Star Trek gonna become cool or something? Because a lot of this casting makes me think more along the lines of "Friends" in spaaaace.

Just hope that the Simon Peggs and John Chos stay in the background and we get some hardcore Kirk/Spock nookie. Maybe McCoy's gone looking for love at the bottom of a bottle? ANYTHING out of the ordinary.

But I think the chances of any real upgrades besides 125 million dollars worth of special effects are slim. Here's hoping to Abrams fills the characters with something new.

03:26 / 15.10.07

I would still like Nathan Fillion as Kirk. That would make this an A+ in my book.

- G

07:03 / 15.10.07

Someone mentioned to me, as a rumour they'd heard or read on-line, that there is a cameo by Tom Cruise as Captain Pike early on.

16:35 / 15.10.07

I doubt you'll get the slashfic or drunk McCoy-type plots you seem to be looking for, whatever, but I still have high hopes for Abrams to tell a good Trek story.

Spyder Todd 2008

02:05 / 24.10.07

Wikipedia has the full cast:

Chris Pine as James T. Kirk.
Zachary Quinto as Spock.
Karl Urban as Leonard McCoy.
Simon Pegg as Montgomery Scott.
Anton Yelchin as Pavel Chekov.
Zoë Saldaña as Uhura.
John Cho as Hikaru Sulu.
Eric Bana as Nero, the villain of the film.

Leonard Nimoy apparently is appearing as well, as, well, the future Spock or something. I don't know who half these people are, and some of them worry me. Visually, Quinto and Pino look pretty good, but Karl Urbam is a very weird choice for McCoy, both visually and from what I've seen of him as an actor.
I feel like I NEED this film to be good, but after the horribleness that was Nemesis, and the gross icky feeling I always had whenever I came anywhere near Enterprise, I'm worried. The production team is entirely different, though, and that HAS to be a good thing.

08:46 / 24.10.07

Can't they just have Georgie-boy as Sulu and make no reference to him looking older than everyone else?

Nero, is this going to be an "insane alien being/Ancient Rome nutjob" like one of the really screwy Original Series episodes?

09:01 / 24.10.07

Bana'd look about right in robe-and-laurel kit. And, really, with a name like Nero it's only fitting that they play this in the classic Star Trek style of unsubtleness. (And cosmo-god villains are really the best, next to insane old guys who somebody let control a ship full of explosive weaponry. At least, the best Trek's ever managed.)

Tryphena Absent

11:21 / 24.10.07

This has been brought up a few times already but (I hate to admit this in public) as someone who watched NG, DS9 and (erk) Voyager religiously in my chequered past and someone who has seen all of the Star Trek films either on TV or in the cinema I really would like to see a Firefly-esque take on the Federation. As a big old military organisation Starfleet doesn't seem to give a particularly accurate view of the society. We know nothing about humanity beyond the fact that some of them fly around in spaceships and hang out on space stations. All of the alien races have exciting histories and presents but humans seem a bit tedious bar the occasional corrupt Admiral. Where are the people who are disenfranchised in this "utopian" society with a peaceful military organisation at its heart? Someone has to be disadvantaged who isn't a morally dubious criminal or eccentric outsider and that's a story I would like to see.

11:43 / 24.10.07

Nero, is this going to be an "insane alien being/Ancient Rome nutjob" like one of the really screwy Original Series episodes?

I really, really hope so... I would dearly love this to be a heart on sleeve insane amplification of all the most bizarre and joycore elements of 60s Trek.

17:18 / 24.10.07

Yeah, Karl Urban is the one that really doesn't sit right with me, either (and countless fans, apparently).

One online fan/poster had this to say: has it been truly, officially confirmed that Urban is McCoy? Because if it's just a Dark Horizons story and not an official press release from JJ Abrams, maybe it's still a rumor...

the same poster said: "JJ is messing with us. The true casting is switched:

Karl Urban as Montgomery Scott.
Simon Pegg as Leonard McCoy."

That would make more sense, wouldn't it, somehow...?

Just hoping against hope...

18:04 / 17.01.08

the teaser trailer for the new Trek movie by J.J. Abrams is out w/Cloverfield, and it should be online in a few days. Descriptions of the very brief teaser are online.

22:18 / 17.01.08

Okay, dude.

09:29 / 06.04.08

Don´t hold your breaths for this one. It got pushed back to may next year.

Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo

02:42 / 07.04.08

I don't mind that it was pushed back. I'd rather they take some time on it instead of rushing it for Giftmas. Seeing as how this could very well be the nail in the coffin if they get it wrong.

13:28 / 27.06.08

all right - take this for what it's worth - from the head of movie geekery at Aint It Cool News.

Mild spoilers here, be warned.

Harry Knowles has seen some very rough footage from the new JJ Abrams Star Trek movie.

sure you want to read it?

Here ya go, then.

And let's remember the movie doesn't come out til summer 2009, if memory serves...

16:36 / 19.12.08

Suppressed gay Star Trek script made at last.

The original screenwriter (same guy who wrote "The Trouble With Tribbles") collaborated with some fan video makers to bring Kirk's gay nephew to life.

17:34 / 19.12.08

That's Funny: I worked on a play in Montreal with Shatner's real-life gay nephew.

Actually, it may have been his cousin, now that I think of it... Can't remember which. Nice guy, either way: I remember him asking, "You're single? That won't do... Would you like me to set you up with a little girl or little boy?"

I hope where ever he is, he sees this episode.

22:01 / 20.12.08

In what possible world would Harry Knowles be considered a 'lapsed Trekkie'? It seems so clear that he cries himself to sleep nightly in the full uniform, on a bed of home-made Tribbles.

Tribbles that have been ... sexualised.

Of course, I don't want to speculate about what he does to them, his notional Tribbles from the local pet shop, and how his phaser plays out in this dreadful scenario, but, realistically, what else is Knowles up to, these days?

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