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Phoenix: Endsong

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TroyJ15

22:47 / 06.02.05

ah, New X-Men. Still talking about it after all this time. I'm on the fence. Wait and see type of thing. Hopefully this will end with her egg on the moon. Would make sense.

The Falcon

22:51 / 06.02.05

When Xavier said his power was 'subtle telepathy' I kinda felt he might be telepathic.

FinderWolf

20:24 / 24.02.05

#3 of this is out? I keep reading reviews of #3 online but I could swear I only saw a 2nd printing of #2 at the comic store this week... (still not really truly reading but perusing it in the store)

XXII:X:II = XXX

20:35 / 28.02.05

#3 is out; there's what's been described as a rather Abercrombie & Fitch cover image with Phoenix cradling all-too-pretty Wolverine in a sort of pieta. Again, I am nonplussed by the content. The whole thing seems pretty damn pointless to me. SPOILERS AHEAD: You mean to tell me that the Phoenix force, which can consume planets and drain suns, is looking to Scott Summers' bioenergy as its source of power? Are you putting me on? No, that bird just don't fly.

As for QQ, even if what he had was a "subtle telepathy," that SUBTLE telepathy. Broadcasting his thoughts to the cuckoos doesn't seem terribly subtle to me. Certainly, no telekinesis is mentioned, which I assume would be necessary for him to reconstitute himself.

All the motivations in this book just seem off. There's something specific Pak is driving at and he'll make the X-Men act completely out of character to get it. That's not good writing.

/+,

Rawk'n'Roll

10:00 / 01.03.05

I flicked through #3 in store, comparing it with Astonishing, End Song felt much more like a sequel to GM's work on NXM than Joss's work.
It might just be the usage of all those familiar characters but this, for me, is the ending Grant couldn't be bothered to write, he just bailed and did stuff he'd enjoy.

I'm suprised after all the Austen mess and the Claremont mess Marvel would bother going back down this route or revisiting these characters, they seemed happier to forget it ever happened.

ONLY NICE THINGS

10:44 / 01.03.05

Quentin Quire was/is a telepath. So, the answer to the question "since when was Quentin Quire telepathic?" is either "since he was introduced in New X-Men" or "since his telepathic powers manifested, probably during puberty", depending on how meta you want to be. Simple as.

Reading this doesn't really feel like reading. The characters move around, Cyclops agonises about having to kill his wife, Shadowcat complains about evryone wanting to kill Cyclops' wife, and then Wolverine tries to kill Cyclops' wife, and then we start again. Quentin and the Shi'Ar seem oddly affectless, perhaps in part because it doesn't feel as if this is going to be allowed to affect the continuity of the other X-books. Simply, it feels like fanfiction.

The Falcon

16:13 / 01.03.05

Okay, /+,, he was latterly revealed as a Phoenix. They are renowned for talents in a) telepathy and b) telekinesis.

I'm not reading this, anyway.

FinderWolf

16:54 / 29.04.05

anyone read the final issue? I skimmed it in the store and it seemed kind of pointless.

Aertho

18:09 / 29.04.05

Yeah, started off GREAT. But pointless. Utterly Utterly Pointless.

Aertho

18:21 / 29.04.05

Actually, I take that back.

It nullified the Jean is Phoenix is Jean argument. It's all Jean, all the time. Boring and wrong.

It brought back QQ as a potential "enemy" for X-Men writers to use sometime in the future.

It brought back Jean Grey as a hero, and "heart" of the X-Men, but shuttled her off to space, for X-Men writers to use sometime in the future.

It establilshed the Cuckoos as the next carriers of the Phoenix Force. WTF?

It grounded Scott and Emma's relationship as a healthy and successful one.

Weird, and we didn't learn anything new. It just got worse.

Imaginary Mongoose Solutions

18:57 / 29.04.05

Yeah, this was pretty pointless. Although the Emma/Scott/Jean stuff was decent... And at least it didn't establish Jean and Phoenix as seperate like everyone else wants to do.

Otherwise, pointless.

I'm Rick Jones, bitch

19:09 / 29.04.05

I reckon they need to give Jean an ongoing to herself, doing big, crazy cosmic shit as leader/matriarch of the Phoenix Corps. Crazy insane Green Lantern Plus Infinity cosmic space battles, and they could use her limitless power to have her hang around with her strongest supporting cast as a tk/tp shell, while at the other end of space she's doing big, cosmic, interesting things.

Give that to Pak. He's earned an interesting assignment.

Quimper

21:10 / 29.04.05

I've always looked at this as a Scott/Emma love story and *loved* that Jean exited in issue three. But then it was more Jean-as-X-matriarch fluff. Still love the art, though. The X-Men have never oozed so much raw sexuality. I would love a threesome with Land's Emma and Warren.

But I have to give it up for a Phoenix story taking place entirely in the woods near the school. Cosmic entity my ass.

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