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Practical Anti-corporate magick

 
  

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LVX23
04:58 / 17.02.06
I can't resist a bit of pertinent self-pimpage since this is a subject near and dear to my heart:

I've hobbled together an outline or starting point to consider The Corporate Egregore.

I've also chronicled an extensive rite with Fox News Corp in the Disinfo anthology Generation Hex.
 
 
Dead Megatron
05:04 / 17.02.06
I tend to see the Corporations as arms/minions of the Machine. And the Machine is a Godhead hatchling who's just about to enslave the humankind (15 to 25 years time-frame, I calculate). But the thing is, although the Machine has been fed and used by some very shifty characters [enter Church Lady voice-over: Is it.... Sataaaan????], It is, in essence, a neutral godhead, not an evil one*. Which means It can be used against the very same mothafuckas who are using It to fuck us (hackerism and cyber-magicks, anyone?).

What I know for sure is that I know next to nothing about aggressive "black" magick and I don't feel like killing poor little scorpions girls (bio-fact: most scorps you'll find in nature are female. whole species are purely partenogenic) just to screw with them. Due to personnal preference, I always like to use Chaos to fight Da Man (stop tickling me, Eris...).

btw, given the Burning Man laying off, is it possible the Corp-drones are watching this forum right now? Anybody else feeling 'noid?


*in fact, given the litle contact It and I have, It has been quite nice to me, actually. But maybe It is just trying to bring me to Its side, not impossible)
 
 
illmatic
05:51 / 17.02.06
15 to 25 years time-frame, I calculate

Well, that's nice. How exactly did you work that out? Did you use the special anti-Man calculator you got for Xmas?
 
 
illmatic
06:03 / 17.02.06
Not to be sarcastic but the strength of the Temple is, at it's best, people actually write from experience. Y'know, stuff they've done, practices they've thought about and assimilated.

If you remain on this forum for any length of time, you will become familar with people trundling out the usual adolescent passel of cliches of Chaos cliches, "stick it to the man" etc. It becomes tooth-achingly predictable. In light of that, I have to ask, when you say "I always like to use Chaos to fight Da Man", what have you actually done? What was your methodology, experiences and results?

btw, given the Burning Man laying off, is it possible the Corp-drones are watching this forum right now? Anybody else feeling 'noid?

Annoied?

*reaches for revolver and ends own life*
 
 
illmatic
06:09 / 17.02.06
'Cause obviously everybody on Barbelith is so fucking subversive and dangerous, that actual memebers of the security services are on our case, watching as I type this ... .. I mean, it's not like they've got anything else to do? Right?


AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH
 
 
Dead Megatron
06:13 / 17.02.06
wow, aren't we angry today?

'noid as in "paranoid', Ilmatic
 
 
illmatic
06:19 / 17.02.06
Really? Oh, that clears it up. Cheers.
 
 
Dead Megatron
06:19 / 17.02.06
15 to 25 years time-frame, I calculate

Well, that's nice. How exactly did you work that out? Did you use the special anti-Man calculator you got for Xmas?


Well, taking Moore's Law (processing speed in chips doubles every 18 months, etc, etc.), the rest is intuition, I guess.

In light of that, I have to ask, when you say "I always like to use Chaos to fight Da Man", what have you actually done?

Not as much as I'd like, I confess. Just a little prank here and there. Things that would get me fired if I was working for a Big Corp.
 
 
illmatic
06:24 / 17.02.06
Possibly the foum name change should be "Barbelith: We stick it to the man, man".
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
07:12 / 17.02.06
As a member of the security services, I'd just like to say that I haven't been reading this thread. Carry on, chaps.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
07:33 / 17.02.06
See, this is why I urgently need a time machine so I can go back and shoot 2001 me. It has to be done.
 
 
Evil Scientist
09:05 / 17.02.06
And the Machine is a Godhead hatchling who's just about to enslave the humankind

I quite liked the first Matrix film, but they really should have left it at that. The others were a bit crappy.
 
 
Dead Megatron
10:20 / 17.02.06
Except for the "vis-a-vis" with the Architect in Matrix part 2, and the conversation about karma with that hindu program (what's his name again?) in Matrix part 3, I second that.
 
 
Seth
10:51 / 17.02.06
How many people here have actually done something like this?
 
 
illmatic
10:55 / 17.02.06
LVX23 has. See Generation Hex. I know a few people who've done public rituals and the like, but whether these were magical acts or agit-prop theatre, I don't know. (is there a difference).
 
 
Unconditional Love
11:45 / 17.02.06
Surely shirley to be really effective you would have to socially engineer your way into a corporation, build up good working relationships, find out its goals and ambitions, in all probability become involved with people in the corp at an emotional and generally human level, and then if you could still sabotage the corp and the human beings lives involved.

You would surely have to become as cold as your own self images and abstractions about corporations to really sabotage one, seems self defeating.

Alternately you could go into business for yourself providing services in what you deem to be a more humanitarian and heartfelt manner. Just fighting everything as much as it is fun doesnt really work, having said that if you want a scrap at the minute it might release alot of stress.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:22 / 17.02.06
Seth: *sigh* Oh good grief yes. I got up to all sorts of poorly-thought-out but terribly enthusiastic sTicK iT 2 teh MAN!23 stuff that summer, mostly to do with zapping logos. Can't you can see the devestating injuries I inflicted on McDonald's, you mindless SHEEPLE?!

I suppose I might go back to this sort of thing one day. After I get half a clue how to do it effectively, maybe.
 
 
Unconditional Love
12:58 / 17.02.06
Its more effective to choose when where and how you shop, how much you consume and what you actually need to exsist, than it is to do some kind of art magico terrorism.

You cant actually control a corp, but you can control how you exsist to a greater extent. a corp isnt one person with power its many people serving an idea or ideas, gathering to a symbol, sign, logo what have you. it has a wider coverage of both space and time with its influence than you can muster in one or ten events staged at knocking it.

If you want to do some damage, stop shopping and consuming corporate images, especially those prepackaged naughty boy rebellions like the matrix, fart club or what ever the equivalent of rage against the machine is these days.

The culture and gender wars are just as futile.

Help i am falling into misanthropy and nihilism, help, help! Save me with a branded cookie that looks both dark and edgy, with a hint of minty rebellion.
 
 
illmatic
13:07 / 17.02.06
Its more effective to choose when where and how you shop, how much you consume and what you actually need to exsist, than it is to do some kind of art magico terrorism

I don't disagree with this actually, though I'd add simply making positve choices about what you consume can still lead you feeling pretty powerless in the face of Megacorp. I might get an organic box or whatever, but Tescos is still putting the local shops out of business. I think, to be effective, you'd have to get involved in some kind of activism - letter writing, petitions, reading up on the business practices and share prices of the corporations you dislike. And of course, all this stuff has the disadvantage of being tedious and not as exciting as teh magicz, and of course, might not work. Magic becomes attractive as a symbolic action that makes it feel you're doing something. I'm reading a book about the effect of supermarkets on the global food market at the moment. If only we could magic them away.
 
 
Unconditional Love
13:27 / 17.02.06
some of the alternatives, are getting an allotment, learning to grow your own, but in all honesty i am far too lazy, its easier and more convenient to walk to a supermarket and pick up food and cheap clothing.

Charity shops actually charge more for clothes in alot of cases. If i had more of an income i could be more choosy, the irony being that i have to contribute more directly to a capitalist system to be more choosy. I have tried being more of an ethical shopper on a limited budget but i tended to be quiet hungry and dissatisfied, so i do as best i can with what i have.

I am not sure the letter writing helps or all of the direct action, have you heard of undercurrents, dont hate the media become the media. I am thinking that in order to change business practice more people will have to become involved with it and maintain there sense of ethics as they grow within the structure, towing company lines and changing from within. I think there is a potential for that to happen generationally, i think its being held back by life extension and people being involved in public life for longer periods.

With less children coming through as well it looks like cultural change will become stale, i am hoping not. but perhaps as travel and communication opens up it gives more opportunities to children of third world countries, hoping.

Young economies like india, china, south america and africa may eventually become even more empowered.

Every empire eventually falls if history is anything to go by.
 
 
Unconditional Love
13:37 / 17.02.06
I have alot of faith in time, not only in its ability to heal, but also in its ability to disintegrate. Great time!
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
14:20 / 17.02.06
Blimey, 2001 reads like a long time ago doesn't it. Interesting to look at how distinctly the early 21st century zeitgiest of anti-capitalist resistance has shifted, in the light of militant Islam's version of the same resistance later that year.
 
 
Digital Hermes
22:06 / 17.02.06
Just to toss some observations in here. I'm a former employee of a telecommunications corporation, which had a unionized work force. Essentially, you had people working for the 'Man,' while at the same time denouncing and belittling it. When a labour issue finally reared it's head, and we were striking, all the union would do, from the leadership on down, is yell "shame" at the company and it's employess, and say "Shame on them" whenever the tv crews came by. Since we were out pounding the pavement, we often wore shorts or jeans, t-shirts, that kind of thing. A motley crew. The corporation representatives were in business wear, and employees who crossed the line were usually wearing business casual.

What occured to me, during the conflict, was that maybe we'd get our message across, about what exactly the company had done that they should be ashamed of, if we actually looked a bit more presentable, a bit more media-friendly. It's easy to write off a mob, or to ignore a group of people that seem more slovenly, and easier to accept any truth so long as it's presented cleanly enough. What if we walked the line with suits and ties, rather then sandals and cords? Would it be possible to make the masses listen, if we made ourselves more presentable?

I guess my point here is that bugs in bottles will only give the corporation, CEO on down, an impetus to throw it's pyschic sheilds up, if you will. It will only drive the wedge deeper, and ensure marginalization of those thoughts and ideas.

A well written essay could work a magic all it's own, as recent issues of Harpers have indicated. A more subtle magic, rather than one that makes us feel powerfull, but would ultimately (as far as I can see) continue propogating the dichotomy.

Kind of a ramble. I'll try to make more sense of this later.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
05:22 / 18.02.06
See, this is why I urgently need a time machine so I can go back and shoot 2001 me. It has to be done.

It's like a yearbook photo, right? One glimpse is all you need to shatter the idea of "hey, I'm actually kinda cool" into a hundred pieces.
 
 
LVX23
06:17 / 18.02.06
Magick and ritual, to me, are effective ways of deconstructing and reprogramming our brand associations - like a sort of self-induced brain washing. I think there's a lot of value in the agitprop work groups like Adbusters are doing, stealing and modifying corporate logos and re-branding their identity. This type of work can be both practical and magickal (like incorporating logos into sigil work and pasting them up around town).

Ultimately, one should balance magickal work with action, IMHO, when attempting to work against malevolent corporate archons. Brand hacking, smart shopping, media protests, and web sleuthing, among others, can all serve to work against the corp agenda.

Ritual can be employed to tap into the deeper collective of mind in which these marketers and lifestyle purveyors ultimately want to swim. Any careful analysis of the corporate presence shows a profit-driven collective clothed in colors and emotions and psychological associations all conjured up by the advert wizards. Of course this is also the realm of magick. At some level the barriers between us fall away and there resides the shared field of mind. Magick can reprogram the collective representation of corporate identity to loosen their hold on our lives.
 
 
Unconditional Love
13:23 / 18.02.06
You have a good point digital hermes. you can do a short experiment of going to a big department store on a saturday and buying something cheap in scruffy clothes then go back the next week in a suit. and compare the two transactions and also how the costumes make you feel and the response elicited from the check out.

In a world highly focused on appearences, self image and the connotations attached are all important when it comes to a sense of validity and respect in other peoples eyes.
 
 
MrCoffeeBean
15:12 / 18.02.06
he he, this shit ive been doing for ages. some have worked some havent.
I dont think were fighting some companies, its the whole capitalist systen that has to go down. And its not starting a war, its already on. I am talking selfdefence here. Thats what its, about SELFDEFENCE. This planet are dying, the humanrace wont be here anymore if something doesnt change.

Magic are just one part of the fight. Remember that. And we have to be ready to pay the price. We already are, unemployment, cut downs on social benefits and siminlar stuff.

Theres lots of magic stuff one can do... heres some ideas (good or not i dont know... but they might be worth a try...)

1. Chaos sattelites placed on strattegic places. Above the McDobnalds HQ for example...

2. Chaos bombs excellent idea... a whole bunch o fthem at the next WTO meeting perhaps?

3. Rumorghost/memedemons released at the stockmarket. Even better if you can sneak them in from the inside... get help from economy journalists...

4. Empowering of demonstarations. Especialy the ones youre part of... Protective spells could be a good theing, and needed...

5. sneak all kids of spells/sigills into music/poetry/art as much as you can just make it public in some way... otherwise its kind of useless...

6. Wear sigills on youre clothes... Badges, T-shirts... even better if you can make stuff and make sure other people wear it, youre own band -tshirts and stuff.

theres lots of more, but this i sall i can think of at the moment.
Dont send wierd shit to corporations, dont play with terrorist looks and stuff. that will surley get th ecops on yuore ass. And thats a bad idea. Dont get cought, if its not part of youre ritual that is...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:43 / 18.02.06
Chaos bombs excellent idea...

Assuming that you're referring to my post from 2001: No. It is not an excellent idea. It's shit. It is a weak, derivative, ill-thought-out working, ethically questionable, sketchily developed and resting on largely untested assumptions as to how magic works.

Even if it had been a better concept it was never actually put into practice, so the excellence or otherwise of the idea remains moot.

The fact that you think it's an "excellent idea" does not speak well of your own practice, frankly.
 
 
MrCoffeeBean
01:50 / 19.02.06
1. there isnt such a thing as good or bad magic. theres only magic.

2. using chaos bombs... its all in the design... shithead. Not all chaos bombs are the same. i have used them with great result.

3. And then there is the question about when to use them...

you kids are way to fucked up in the thinking ain the bad vs good magic paradigm... there isnt such a thing as black or white magic... theres only magic.
And as i said all before its all about SELFDEFENCE! tyhis planet hav ebeen killed enough, we have to strike back. Its not a question of IF we gonna die but a question of WHEN. We got nothing to loose.
 
 
Never or Now!
07:04 / 19.02.06
Having spent the previous fifty-seven minutes reading and re-reading your post, Mr. Bean, I have come to the conclusion that the word "shithead" isn't entirely necessary. In fact it could conceivably be considered stupid and offensive and I believe there's something in the posting etiquette about that.

i have used them with great result.

Okay, now you gotta expand on this. What great result, exactly?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:24 / 19.02.06
Yes, do tell. I'd love to know what companies you've brought crashing to their knees with your mighty will.

1. there isnt such a thing as good or bad magic. theres only magic.

Yes there bloody well is. There's magic that works and magic that doesn't, just for starters. Then there's magic that is worked in accordance with ethical principles and magic that is worked with no regard for anything except the fixations of the mage.

I understand that you prefer the kind of magic that consists largely of sitting around on your arse parroting decades-old clichés and concocting half-baked workings whose only redeeming feature is that they are never actually put into practice. That's fine; each to his own. However, you may find that constantly trumpeting the innate superiority of such an armchair-based practice sets you rather at odds with this forum. There are plenty of other fora on the internet where your idle and ill-informed approach will be the norm, where masturbating over sigils is regarded as the apex of modern magical thought and where people are actually impressed when you quote Johnny Rotten. I suggest you go and post in one of those instead.

Otherwise get down and give me the Lesser Banishing Rite Of The Pentagram, you clueless, arrogant dilletante.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:32 / 19.02.06
Now, happy as I would be to see certain parts of this thread sink without trace, it might be worthwhile hearing more from LVX23 or someone else who's actually performed some practical anti-corporate magic.
 
 
Digital Hermes
08:38 / 19.02.06
LVX23: Any careful analysis of the corporate presence shows a profit-driven collective clothed in colors and emotions and psychological associations all conjured up by the advert wizards. Of course this is also the realm of magick.

In his roundabout way, (and correct me if I'm wrong) it seems like he's saying that everything is magic, or at the very least potentially magical. Could putting together a real, honest advertisment, raising money and putting it in a major newspaper or even on TV, with high production values and a message-meme behind it that'll be undebateable, could all of that be considered sympathetic magic, in the sense of tailoring your spell/ritual to fit better with the environment it is intended to affect? I may be mucking up the term.

A lot of this is coming back to my magic=information epiphany, which others may not share. But essentially, everything is 'magical.' And the effects and purposes of our actions may not always be what we intended.

To bring it back to the subject; bugs in bottles, or chaos bombs (I'm still fuzzy on what those are) seem like 'spells' that have a focused purpose, and an often impeccable record of success. What they do, though, is help the occultist reinforce that they are an enlightened but embattled soldier fighting the good fight, and though they realize this bug-bottle won't bring the stocks crashing down, they feel as though they've done something for the 'cause.'

If this seems caustic, I don't mean to paint everyone with this brush. And what I'm saying is not intended as sarcasm. It's probably important to boost your confidence now and then, and acts like this can be personally empowering, even if they 'target' of the spell never feels it. In that sense, these workings do a very important job.

A union member who walked the line with me, was also an occultist. He'd been working there for five years, at least. Hating every minute of it. On the picket line, he's happier than a pig in shit. Though (I would argue) his tactics, and that of the Union, on the line, and in the media, are actually counter-productive, there is tremendous self-importance that is created there. Validation. Fighting the good fight.

I guess what I'm circling around is the concept that the CBC documentary "The Corporation," and the book that spawned it, or the doc "Enron: The Smartest Guys in The Room," as a form of anti-corporate combat magic, trying to win ground in the only battleground corporations care about; the minds of it's consumers. Everything can be magical, including this.
 
 
Unconditional Love
12:54 / 19.02.06
You might also find it useful to study the ideas portrayed in this document Social engineering ,but still i would argue as digital hermes seems to be that operating in an appearence of an insider context and using there language intelligently could be just as effective.
 
 
Unconditional Love
13:06 / 19.02.06
It seems to me there is a really fine line between protesters/activists becoming just as abusive of human beings as the corporations they are protesting about.

By being on a constant attack of corporations arent you just adopting the qualities you are trying to thwart?
 
  

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