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The Worst of Millar

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10:49 / 21.02.05

the hornet guy from the slingers - the one who all the shield guys thought was spidey? - had a withered arm apparently.

10:47 / 23.02.05

7 page preview of next issue. secret origin of the gorgon, nice colours.

ultimates preview up as well. he seems to have got the jarvis character just a bit wrong really.

11:03 / 23.02.05

Everytime I read the first page of this thread I find myself agreeing with Fly. The characterisation is a little bit rubbish, the internal monologues are naff, but... but... I can't help but really enjoy this comic (although the last ish wasn't the best) - It's violent, it's action packed, it's rip roaringly paced, it's has wolverine being a bad arse (and not moping around in bars), it's got lovely art, and some truly menacing baddies.

There's even something about the crapness of the dialogue that reminds me of the comics of my youth.

11:13 / 23.02.05

werd - slike shooter-era dialogue, huge and clunky like shakespeare revivals being bombed, and reminds me of doom narrating his own demise as the beyonder strips him apart atom by atom. 'the gorgon IS that fast. the gorgon IS that silent'

gotta get me a 'the' before my name, all the badarses have lately.

13:45 / 23.02.05

The Bad Arse?

The Rotten Bottom?

Careful. Millar may be listening...

14:39 / 23.02.05

Well, we've all got bad arses because Millar's been fucking us so hard.

02:10 / 25.02.05

hey everyone!
Long-time lurker short-time poster here- just wanted to add my $.02. damn it the last issue of Wanted pissed me off so much i'm selling off every damn comic i own by the man! i thought the series had a pretty cool universe (if a kinda uninspired premise) and millar just went and fucked up the ending in the stupidest possible way! it really feels like he went out of his way to say FUCK YOU to the very same people who are putting money in his pocket! did he actually think his ending was cool? or (god-forbid) postmodern??? hell i'd go with the theory that he simply doesn't know how to do endings. what a fuckin waste...
oh btw the uncanny way characters in Ultimates look exactly like Hollywood actors make me think the man really just wants to sell scripts to Hollywood.
despite all that i will admit to quite liking the 1st half of the ultimates- the alien invasion thing was kinda rubbish. the new series is ok... but i dont feel compelled to follow it either.

20:51 / 14.06.05

wow, Barnes and Noble really wants to publish a special edition of a comic that ends with "I'm FUCKING YOU IN THE ASS, DUDE!! YEAAAH!! I'm A BADASS!!!"....?

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from Rich Johnston's column this week:

>> "Wanted," the hit Top Cow series by Mark Millar and JG Jones with a trade paperback solicited for publication for August, has had a special version commissioned by Barnes & Noble stores and is available now. This is the latest in a series of exclusive comic book publishing deals from Barnes & Noble, but this particular exclusive deal has received little attention until now.

Neither Top Cow representatives or Mark Millar answered enquiries made over the weekend.

21:31 / 14.06.05

Yeah, I read Vaughan's intro to Wanted and it was all 'ooh, the ending is audacious'; inasmuch as it created immediate buyer's remorse, I suppose.

I hate that comic.

not-so-deadly netshade

23:51 / 14.06.05

Wanted...I loved it...then I hated it...then I loved it again. And then the last page made me want to burn everything this guy has ever written.

I'm sick and tired of Millar and (frank) Miller doing superheroes just for the sake of destroying them. Miller's DK2 was INSULTING.

It's like, ok...I get it. Superheros are childish, adolescent power fantasies. We get it. We get that you know it. Sorry for making you lower yourself to entertain us.

Eat a dick.

03:43 / 15.06.05

First:

versions of your favourite heroes - who you want to fuck!

Not that I entirely disagree with this, but given that Spider-Girl's readership is mostly teenage girls, maybe Marvel's thinking is more along the lines of trying out the theory that people want to read about people that they can identify with in some way, so if you want to increase your young female readership you start writing young female superheroes. That could be the point of all of those M2-Universe lady-legacy heroes (Wild Thing - wolverine's daughter, American Maid (or whatever she's called), Spider-Girl, the lady ant-man).

Second, can someone tell me how WANTED ends?

m.

05:41 / 15.06.05

See Finderwolf's post.

I had heard the ending was awful but nothing could prepare me for the disgust and pity I felt for the whore that is Millar.

11:21 / 15.06.05

given that Spider-Girl's readership is mostly teenage girls

Ooooh, I don't think so. I think the readership is largely comprised of fans of DeFalco and Frenz mid-80's run on Spider-Man. And that's the creepy thing.

22:38 / 15.06.05

So - what - the comic ends with actual anal rape? Who rapes who? What is it supposed to prove?

m.

23:30 / 15.06.05

As far as I can remember it was a scene which text wise followed a fightclub like dialogue and image wise ended in a large close up of the main character's contorted, angry face saying "This is what my face looks like while I fuck you (sheeple*) in the ass".
*not really included.
It was unnesessary and a mistake at best.

12:57 / 05.05.07

well, i finally got to see it. great ceasar's fucking ghost. if I didn't hate Millar before, I do now.

13:06 / 05.05.07

Welcome, brother.

(Actually, I don't hate Millar, I just hate some of the stuff he's written)

16:38 / 06.05.07

I was utterly disgusted with "Wanted". It was like watching a pathetic mid-life crisis unfolding in ghastly slow motion technicolour, Millar scrawling hideous irrelevant neuroses all over page after page...

I'm glad everybody else seems to be getting fed up with these allegedly clued-up authors using their audience as a dumping ground for their own psychic toxins.

I haven't bought any comics in almost 2 years. There's just nothing to read that doesn't consist of pornography, ugliness, violence, stupidity, middle-brow pseudointellectualism, self-aggrandisement, knowing winks to the gallery, melodrama, nauseating self-pity, amorality and just general bad writing.

I'm sick of them. They suck.

17:14 / 06.05.07

Okay, you know there's a logical flaw there, don't you? That said, I do sympathise. I was feeling a bit fed up with comics, particularly superhero comics for a while there too.

Essential Dazzler

17:17 / 06.05.07

Dude, did you just say there isn't a single well written comic being published currently?

There's just nothing to read that doesn't consist of ... and just general bad writing.

You did didn't you?

17:29 / 06.05.07

Hmph. Perhaps the faintest whiff of hyperbole...

Essential Dazzler

17:39 / 06.05.07

I assumed you were just venting. You really should go by All Star Superman, Phonogram, and Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane to make up for your devastating wrongness.

18:25 / 06.05.07

I have to second Phonogram. I just have to.

19:04 / 06.05.07

I haven't bought any comics in almost 2 years. There's just nothing to read that doesn't consist of pornography, ugliness, violence, stupidity, middle-brow pseudointellectualism, self-aggrandisement, knowing winks to the gallery, melodrama, nauseating self-pity, amorality and just general bad writing.

Well, that's such an indefensible statement that I really don't think it's worth much time going into.

But it does lead onto the interesting question of what stuff are you enjoying reading.

Personally I find I reading fewer and fewer monthly comics. I pretty much stopped reading superhero comics, but my passion for the medium remains undimmed.

One of the side effects of focusing on graphic novels is that I feel less tied to 'what's new'. Instead I'm more interested in reading stuff that's new to me...

21:06 / 06.05.07

Yes, yes, ventaramsaurusville. I have a sort of mental allergy to comics at the moment. I'm not really reading anything else, either... at all. (I've a nasty feeling I may be developing a mental allergy to fiction.)

Sure, there's non-superhero stuff out there that is genuinely interesting but I don't put a huge amount of effort into finding it, it's like I just don't feel... *obliged* to? I used to have a pretty big standing order at the local and kind of burned out on comics.

Millar, in fact, is largely responsible.

The Natural Way

15:53 / 21.03.08

It seems Martk Millar is writing a new comic which is:

"a culmination of everything I began with Wanted, The Ultimates...blah..etc.."

And it's called War Heroes. And it's why we never have to read a Mark Millar comic again. Because, guess what, the American Government's been fighting unpopular wars for years now. Everyone wants to get out of Iraq, nobody wants to join up. Bad, huh?

The solution?

Oh, what could the solution be?

I can't even be bothered to say it. It hurts to say it. It takes too long.

Get this, they give all new recruits their very own super-power!

Fuck me!

Really? Do they?!? Yes!!! This is the exciting, realistically drawn, topical, just-like-TV super book I've been waiting for! It deals with REAL. WORLD. ISSUES., but with lasers out of eyes and flying gunheads! I know I can't wait!

Aaargh! Fuck!

Janean Patience

16:27 / 21.03.08

Now come on.

This thread is about the worst comics Mark Millar has written. We shouldn't allow it to be diluted by speculation about how bad future Mark Millar comics are going to be. After all, there's an abundance of awful, awful Mark Millar comics already out there just waiting to be torn apart and used as arse paper.

When War Heroes comes out and turns out to be Millar recreating Marshall Law with none of the wit and originality - and there wasn't a surfeit of either in Marshall Law - then we can kick it to pieces and laugh as it lies, twitching, dismembered, in the gutter. But until then, let's concern ourselves with the seemingly endless soul-sucking horror of Millar's already published material.

I'll start us off. The Aunt May twist in Marvel Knights: Spider-Man. Shittest twist ever?

16:43 / 21.03.08

I can't pin point all of the utter shit-fuck-fuck!-shit! wrongness... I had a really long post, but I said screw it.

SHUT THE FUCK UP MILLAR!!!!!!!!!

The Natural Way

18:16 / 21.03.08

I think what I'm trying to say, is that I already find the atmosphere/premise of the new Millar so appalling and such a cliche that it would be almost impossible for me to pick it up and read it. I'm starting to hate the made-for-the-screen superhero book so much that even his Fantastic Four's making me feel queasy. Where's the fucking imagination? Where's the weirdness and the superheroism? I want the whiff of greek myths instead of BIG BUDGET FX and ridiculous, technicolour conceits, not REAL WORLD ISSUES (with gunheads). This, I know, is a very personal thing, but I can't bear it any longer! I shall die!

19:03 / 21.03.08

Zip, that's the lolest post I've read in ages.

The Natural Way

01:30 / 22.03.08

Yes indeed.

04:31 / 22.03.08

Where's the fucking imagination?

Mark Millar presumably writes his own pay cheques these days, so dinnae ye say he's no creative. Ye wee radge.

04:48 / 22.03.08

Do you think this A stands for France?!?" = "I am the Ben Elton of comics!"

Bums on seats, ye shiting elistist! Bums on seats!

12:03 / 21.08.08

Controversially, despite the undeniably bad shit he's come out with (War Heroes is just as bad as you would expect) I am really enjoying not one but *two* Millar titles at the moment. Kick Ass is really enjoyable, and 1985 is strangely compelling, and I find myself buying them both. Those and Brubaker/Fractions Iron Fist are the only regular Marvels I'm buying at the moment.

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