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The Worst of Millar

 
  

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Spaniel
11:30 / 13.12.04
Well, I like the Ultimates muchly until about the third ish of the second arc, but as you haven't read it I won't get into specifics. Let's just say that it all feels a little rushed.

As for UXM, as far as I'm concerned the comic takes a maasive turn for the worse in the next arc.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
15:42 / 13.12.04
I certainly don't religiously adore all of his work. I think the Millarniverse stuff is sort of plain, but I happen to really enjoy the current Wolverine run, especially after Rucka's completely langorous stint on the book. If I never see a goddamned flannel shirt in my life again, it'll be too soon.

And yeah, he has sort of botched the internal possesion narration, but poor Logan has never been the most verbose chap. I was playtesting that X-Men Legends game the other day and they summed him up pretty well. "You sure you wanna tangle with me?" Etcetera.

And I tend to thoroughly enjoy The Ultimates. You might recall my instant adoration of the 'France' line. Anything that can get me to chuckle out loud on the subway is fine by me.

I think that tends to be his aim 75% of the time. "Hm. I wasn't expecting that." Sometimes it works for me ("France"), sometimes it doesn't (Christ getting assraped by Satan).
 
 
Haus of Mystery
20:20 / 20.01.05
Right. I thought this might be the place to post this. This week was a Millar week for me - four comics bought, three of them by Mark Millar. Once again I'm dumfounded as to how unreliable a writer he is. Firstly the conclusion to Wanted, approximately 4/5 months late. ABSOLOUTE and utter SHITE!!!! Weak, weak, weak stuff with the majority of the ish taken up with exposition, a rickety plot twist, some totally redundant father/son bullshit and one of the most annoying end pages EVER. So much for the 'Watchmen' of bad guy comics. Thanks for the wankjob Mark, and thanks for the year long wait. This went nowhere after a promising couple of issues, and seemed c\ompletely unsure of what it wanted to achieve. Bollocks.

And then...
Wolverine.
Yes Wolverine, of which I had little or no hopes for. Against the odds it's great. Dumb action movie great, but great nonetheless. This is Millar unfettered by any pretence of cleverness, and it benefits from it. Obviously the title's helped no end by Romita's presence, but nonetheless this has so far been a breathless non-stop tour of the marvel Universe from ground level, with a ludicrous but satisfying plot that has Hydra, AIM, the Hand, SHIELD the Baxter Building, Elektra and Wolverine as a human bomb. I'm currently enjoying it more than any previous or current Millar comic, and I pray he doesn't fuck it up (he will).

So basically 'Nnnnnnnnnnghh' to Millar. Had to get it off my chest.
 
 
Mark Parsons
03:05 / 21.01.05
Yeah, I agree re: WANTED. What a fucking letdown. All yay yak yak anticlimax. Those first three issue were staggeringly cool (4 & 5 being a tad middley, if you get my meaning). I believed the "Watchmen for Villians" hype might turn out to be true, but instead we get sopa opera offal. What dreary crap from a writer capable of great work.

Any theories as to why Millar often writes arse endings?
 
 
Eskay Doss
03:34 / 21.01.05
Because Millar is all hype. He is a master of spin and really he should just quit comics and get into politics. His interviews and set-ups are always great and promising and fun but then you buy the books and his endings are always a let-down (unless he borrows some ideas from his pal GM). He is fortunate to have worked with so many amazingly talented artists, but strictly as a writer he is not as good as he would have you believe, IMHO anyway. The ending to WANTED? TERRIBLE!!!! He completely wastes the potential he spent so much time setting up. Millar is fucked up and wears his demons on his sleeves. Get over it and learn to tell a proper conclusion, man! What a let-down. Beautiful art, though. J G Jones is great and I'm looking forward to what he does next. Anybody have any scoops?
 
 
Spaniel
09:02 / 21.01.05
I have nothing to add really, MacGyver said it all.
On the redundant father son bullshit. What did Millar expect from us? Sadness? A couple of laughs? Please explain, what was the fucking point of the scene? Why should I care about two fucking cocks behaving like fucking cocks?

Oh yeah, loved that last panel, and the MESSAGE - wow!

Wolverine, on the other hand, is really fun. Love Medusa.
 
 
The Natural Way
10:33 / 21.01.05
Gorgon.
 
 
Spaniel
10:57 / 21.01.05
'Swot I said.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
11:04 / 21.01.05
Yeah, I really like Pegasus, too.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:09 / 21.01.05
>> Yes Wolverine, of which I had little or no hopes for. Against the odds it's great. Dumb action movie great, but great nonetheless.

I agree. It's been fun so far.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
13:38 / 21.01.05
I got Youngblood: Bloodsport #1 as research for an interview I'll be doing with someone re: the aborted youngblood game, and against the odds, it was really fucking fun.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
14:41 / 21.01.05
Don't expect the rest of it anytime soon, though.
 
 
Krug
17:23 / 21.01.05
Superman Tanent Comics #1: Warren Ellis called it one of Mark Millar's strongest works somewhere. He's wrong. It's an Elseworlds Black Superman, government conspiracy story that has nothing new to say about anything and it's mediocre at best. Maybe not his worst but utterly useless.
 
 
Ganesh
10:41 / 22.01.05
(Christ getting assraped by Satan).

He seems peculiarly obsessed with non-consensual anal penetration generally, don't you think? I read the last issue of WANTED the other day and thought, "meh, assrape again".

Anal rape seems to fascinate and appall Millar in equal measure. D'you reckon if someone actually did forcibly tickle his prostate (and, while George Morrison's the obvious slashster for the job, any one of us would probably do) he'd get over his own arse and write better comics?
 
 
Haus of Mystery
15:10 / 22.01.05
Yeah the last issue really left a bad taste in the mouth. I know they're all 'bad guys', but there was still a real tang of misogyny and homophobia about the whole thing.
 
 
Triplets
15:19 / 22.01.05
Rape will usually leave a bad taste in your mouth.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
15:31 / 22.01.05
If it's mouth-rape, yes.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
16:55 / 22.01.05
I've got a theory about Millar, his writing for 2k and the American stuff, and why there's a vast improvement in the quality of his yankee stuff. Aside from the fact that he has no affection for 2k and was using it to get where he wanted he had a pretty free hand with his scripts for the house of Tharg.

In America he got his goot in the door writing 'Superman Adventures'. There he had less freedom - 22 page story, complete begining/middle/end for each issue, no ultra violence, no sex, no bad language. The resrtrictions seem to force him to actually write in an inventive way, Plus he had editorial control on his work to point out where he needed to change things. Pretty good way to learn how to really do the job.

Just a theory mind.
 
 
Krug
17:47 / 22.01.05
Restrictions (whether they're budgetary or it's censorship issues) tend to bring out the best in gifted artists. Look at Iranian Cinema.

I agree with your theory more or less.
 
 
Ganesh
02:06 / 23.01.05
So who's gonna ass-fuck him, then? You'd be doing the whole comic-reading community a favour...
 
 
FinderWolf
02:38 / 23.01.05
wow, I read the end of WANTED in the store, what a stupid last page. "I'm so cool, this is me fucking you in the ass!" Geez.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
22:51 / 10.02.05
WOLVERINE SPOILERS









Northstar. Dead.
 
 
Aertho
00:43 / 11.02.05
MORE ass-fucking!






(What d'ya mean you don't get it? Gay = buttsex. Duh.)
 
 
Alex's Grandma
06:20 / 11.02.05
I'm hoping you're joking JET, but if not, it's not too difficult to picture the scene;

LATE NIGHT IN X MANSION: It is dark.

Close in on LOGAN, having a bad dream.

He is awakened by... a noise.

LOGAN'S senses go CRAZY.

HE walks down to the kitchen, expecting MAGNETO.

There's something flying round in there, which LOGAN SKEWERS in short order.

'Non, mon ami !' whines the whining thing on the end of LOGAN'S KNIVES 'Je suis... I... try to get, un, uh tasse de milk, mon ami... "

" Tasse ? My ass ! I never trusted you anyway, French boy. And now, *heh* yer on WOLVERINE'S time ! You see these claws, eh ? Raw adamantium, machine-tooled by the US Black OPs psy ops division, eh ? Any one of these ( LOGAN has a flashback to being 'invaded' up 'the bum' by a strong man in uniform, ) er, claws would *coff* frikkin' spit roast ya, bub ! ( LOGAN swigs from A BEER, )

NORTHSTAR says 'In the name of GOD, mon ami...'

'But now, bub, 'cos yer a frickin' TRAITOR...'

'But you 'ave no, 'ow you say, evidence... '

'I'm gonna give ya all frikkin' five !!!'

CYCLOPS bursts into the room, but he's TOO LATE !

Attempting to stop LOGAN, his eye beams catch on LOGAN's indestructible claws, and bounce off straight up, in a signature Millar twist, NORTHSTAR'S ASS.

'Ah well, c'est la vie,' says LOGAN

'Can you clean this up ?' says CYCLOPS

They give each other HIGH FIVE.
 
 
_Boboss
08:29 / 11.02.05
where does this spoilage come from police?
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
12:29 / 11.02.05
CBR forums, someone had an advance copy.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
12:36 / 11.02.05
Hmmm. N__ would make a fucking scary Hand Assassin, though wouldn't he?

I've got to say that I'm loving Millar's Wolverine run. It's a lot of uncomplicated fun in that Bruckheimer-y sort of way.
 
 
Aertho
13:01 / 11.02.05
yeah, N__ ... superfast, flying, superstrong, energy blasting, undead, ass-craving NINJA. In six months, he and Psylocke should get their own team-up book. Will and Grace for the those who need it.

Actually, if written by Peter David and drawn by Stelfreeze... Yum and Sexy.
 
 
_Boboss
14:26 / 11.02.05
yurt. i'm liking it far, far more than i first expected. set piece action with the kind of chunko muscularity that the hairy little canadian should always have. that new villain, the gorgon, is one of the first all-new characters who i can remember comng from marvel since xstatix - they're so happy with spin-offs and revamps lately that i'm hard pushed to think of a new character in recent years who has even a small smell of greatness about them. how to fix that? so you take a stock manga-lookin baddie, give him all the powers that your super people get these days (there's potentially a bit there - powers reflecting characteristics happens less now - supertypes seem to be more about how generally special they are - they're like folk, younme, but slicker, tougher and with no sense of how silly they look in their chosen clothes) to make a fine full package: undead anti-life psychic mutant ninja allied to hydra, and the hand, (kicked out of the brotherhood for being too nasty) with 'class 2(?) strength', swords and a killer mutie power. his first appearance was properly nasty and dramatic, one to remember, and his fight with elektra in the latest issue actually felt painful, lingering and frightening - feelings baddies just don't conjure that often. he's also got a sneaky new behind-the-scenes type baddy, baron strucker's wife, a horribly simple and inspired idea. friends with mme blavatsky, funding hydra herself since ww2.

and the series generally has some kind of iconic strength to it that's got me totally hooked. there are problems when the story rationalises itself awkwardly in order to accomodate the set-pieces - hydra have given wolverine 'implants' (though his cleavage looks much as it ever has, heeho) which can do almost anything, he's got goons on standby helping him teleport out of trouble, and millar is using that very simple second-guessing technique where it looks like the goodies have won, only for wolvie to go 'hah, of course i've planted the bomb already': this is cheating and requires a correctly-stimulated fanboy in order to overlook it as a dramatic fault.

it's the hush strategy to a large degree - throw it all in the pot, but we have got a decent new villain out of it, potentially a stayer. it could be the palpable sense of sadistic villainry about the place - hydra feels real and dangerous in a way that it hasn't before - hydra used to be even less scary than al-qaida, now they're scarier than living next to a US army base.

but, we hear he's killed off the only gay xman - i think if i had, through neglect, childishness or lack of imagination, written a body of work which could, to say the least, be used to demonstraste that my attitudes towards man on man bumsex are a bit 'prison', then i'd try not to pick a gay man for my gritty silly 'someone dies this issue' moment.

his spidey run is very similar to this in a lot of ways, enjoyable in the same way but not as enjoyable, and with the odd dreadful howler. but even there he's combined venom and scorpion into a single baddy - not sure if venom's going to have a tail and claws, hope so of course. if not for the fact that this obviously leaves us a villain-down in spidey town, it feels right. so how do you write an exciting superhero? write exciting supervillains.

so why didn't he do that in wanted?
 
 
Haus of Mystery
15:31 / 11.02.05
'Cos he was too busy FUCKING YOU IN THE ASSSSSSS!!!
 
 
Haus of Mystery
15:32 / 20.02.05
Umm. Liked this ish of Wolverine (#25) less than previous. It didn't flow too well, and I resented the fact that all the X-Men were in it. Them all chasing logan through the woods was just...shit. It was still an OK read, just not as fun as previous - less undead ninjas to slice up. I am looking forward to the payback however. (Does Millar only write payback stories, or is it me?)
 
 
_Boboss
07:58 / 21.02.05
yeah this one was a bit wonky. 'the mansion got trashed!!' kind of wasted the characters - the xmen are actually the only ones who really know wolverine, cyclops is probably the only man in the whole marvel u who isn't scared of him, and they just dashed through the woods and it was a bit silly. also, you've got a severely brainwashed man, do you let fury and company sraighten him out, or let his bezzie mates, the world's best telepaths, deprogram him?

the bit with cerebra was good though, and the bit with strucker.

northstar's death was predictably low-impact. interesting (someone mentioned it on the rampage) that of the two superheroes wolverine has killed during millar's run, one of them was disabled, the other gay.
 
 
diz
08:53 / 21.02.05
his spidey run is very similar to this in a lot of ways, enjoyable in the same way but not as enjoyable, and with the odd dreadful howler. but even there he's combined venom and scorpion into a single baddy - not sure if venom's going to have a tail and claws, hope so of course. if not for the fact that this obviously leaves us a villain-down in spidey town, it feels right.

i believe this happened partly as a result of Marvel wanting to create a new Scorpion, who will, of course, be a spunky teenage girl who finds the armor and becomes a spunky teenage girl SUPERHERO. i think she may be friends with the spunky teenage Latina Spider-Girl.
 
 
_Boboss
09:24 / 21.02.05
fuck, really? maybe they can roll with the new wolverine girl-clone? it's great - versions of your favourite heroes - who you want to fuck!

the new venom wasn't scorpion-venom which would have been ace. no tail or claws. the last spidey was one of the biggest balls-out battle-issues that i've seen for a while, and was quite, quite dull.
 
 
FinderWolf
10:47 / 21.02.05
who's the disabled person Wolvie killed in Millar's run? I've read 'em all but can't remember.

And upcoming Marvel solicits show that maybe, just maybe, Hydra does their ol' 'kill and resurrect as our evil puppet' thing with Northstar... thereby reversing his death at the hands of Logan (an upcoming Marvel Wolverine cover - written by Millar - shows a silouetted figure who looks a lot like Northstar's silhouette and the copy something like 'an X-Man back from the dead and EVIL!!!')
 
  

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