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Spatula Clarke
12:27 / 13.01.05
So I'm up to Gravemind now, and I'm guessing I'm fairly near the end. Agree with Elegant and h.k on a lot of points, although I think the singleplayer is significantly worse than the posts so far make it sound.

The sections I enjoyed most in the first game's campaign were those where you're faced with rolling hills, massive waterfalls and small installations in the middle of them. Huge, open expanses of land with the odd rocky outcrop or patch of trees and you have to make every possible use of these for cover. That's what was great - the scenery being awesome to look at, but massively dangerous.

And there's fuck all of that here. It's virtually all indoors. There's only been one outdoors moment where the sequel comes close to hitting those heights, imo - the very beginning of the level Delta Halo, where you evac next to the ancient ruins. The one other place in the game where it looks like you might get a return to that style of play is Quarantine Zone, but they screw that up mightily by having you bomb through it in vehicles.

Otherwise, it's all corridors. Wonderful. And that's the least of the problems I've got with it. There's also the Flood. Okay, so I realise that they had to be in here somewhere, but they're the dullest enemies possible. All the impressive enemy AI suddenly disappears and you're faced with creatures that run straight at you. When the pathfinding works - more often than not they seem to hit a wall and just keep on banging their heads against it. It's like Doom. Halo: Combat Devolved.

The alien levels are the worst offenders. The Arbiter is as tiresome as the first game's Library level. Where's the variety? Where are the impressive environments. Not here. But even that's better than Sacred Icon.

Jesus. Sacred Icon. The level where you run to the end of a corridor and press X. Drop down the hole to the next corridor. Run to the end of it. Press X. Ignore any and all enemies that start shooting at you. Just get to the end of the corridor and press X. And is it just me, or are all the levels really dark? Like, I can't tell where the fuck I'm supposed to be going dark.

The technical problems I could care less about, really. So detail levels pop in suddenly and obviously. It's stupid, but it's not as much of an issue as the stunningly boring level design.

Oh, and the storyline. I'm sorry, but I've got no idea what's going on. I followed it up to and including the shamelss Half-Life rip, but everything since has completely passed me by. Not helped by the fact that Bungie have messed up the sound levels yet again. You know how Guilty Spark supposedly had lots of interesting things to say in the first game, but you never heard them because they'd got the volume levels wrong? It's like that all the way through here. Almost every element of exposition is drowned out by music or gunfire.

Maybe a second run through will improve matters a bit. Maybe co-op mode will show the design of the levels in a new light. I don't know if I've got the energy to play the campaign again, though. Certainly not straight away.

It's no surprise that Bungie wouldn't let the press see anything other than the multiplayer in the run up to release. That really does seem to be where all the effort went - it's brilliant (when the matchmaking system doesn't stick you in a team game with dickheads, natch).
 
 
Char Aina
00:22 / 15.01.05
spoiler
























Plus, as anyone who's reached the horribly frustrating coitus interruptus that is the end of the game will testify, there's actually more story than there is resolution, the most obvious flaw being: what the hell was the point of that stupid Little Shop of Horrors tentacle beast thing?


the game did seem over all of a sudden.
like a big fat trailer for halo3.
 
 
admiral sausage
19:48 / 20.03.05
**HALO 2 Barbelith CLAN MATCH**

Anyone up for one on this Wednesday ? (23/03) I'll be online about 7:30 ish. Please let me know if your interested. C'mon on, not long till new content (surely)


Barbelith Clan Gamertags


nedrichards
GideonStargrave
Elegant Mess
CLUDE BUSTER
Orlando II
Solitaire Rose
fidothe
Supaglue
Admiral Sausage
DalaiDahmer
Darkstride
duncanponting



List of things that people say whilst playing Halo 2


- I/we owned you.

- I got/call shotty/sniper

- (after getting killed) who got my shotty ?

- How do you like that bitch ? (prob results from wathing too much porn)

- Calling you a "noob" (not exclusive to Halo 2)

- sword/sniper/shotgun/ rocket whore.

- Wheres sword/sniper/shotgun/ rocket guy ? ( I propose to change this to sword/ sniper/shotgun/ rocket CHAP, sounds nicer... or where's MISTER rocket ? even better !)

- Fuck you English faggot.....

- Spawn kill
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:22 / 20.03.05
I dropped out of the clan a couple of days ago to join the NTSC-uk peeps, because only about three of the Barbelith clan members play online, but I'm happy to be mobile - swap clans as and when required - if that makes any difference. I'll make sure I'm online Wednesday just in case (most of you are in my Friends list anyway), but I'd be astonished if you can get enough people involved to set up anything other than a minor clanmatch, with or without me.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
22:50 / 20.03.05
Wednesdays are horrid for me...but I'll be on Thursday if there's a game.
 
 
sleazenation
23:16 / 20.03.05
Finally got to playing this and echo much of the sentiments already expressed - it all seemed to go by pretty rapidly ending rather abruptly with the set up for the next game. We now know how many halos there are and the next game will probably see them all destroyed... anyone want to bet on the twist for the campaign version of halo 3 now?
 
 
nedrichards is confused
20:39 / 21.03.05
Well just to note that if you're as sad as I am and had read the Halo novels (well the first and the third one) then you'd know that already! In fact as dubious trashy scifi goes they're not bad at all.
 
 
admiral sausage
15:40 / 22.03.05
Bollocks.

Cant be online wednesday, it'll have to be Thursday.

bollocks
 
 
Alex's Grandma
16:46 / 22.03.05
Cool game.
 
 
admiral sausage
17:41 / 24.03.05
Halo 2 tonight !!

anyone fancy a game ? trying to get enough together for a clan match.

Heard that the new content should be out next week and should have about 9 new multiplayer maps !! WHOOOOOOO
 
 
admiral sausage
17:16 / 25.03.05
http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=maptacular&p=2747963

at last !
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:44 / 25.03.05
Wankers. It takes them over four months to issue a bug fix download, when certain of the cheating issues could have been solved almost immediately - the quick and obvious fix for dummying being to remove the Elite skin from the online multiplayer - and then they diddle players by charging for extra content.

I'll be waiting until the end of the summer, then grabbing the extra maps for free. Which'll make custom games a fucking nightmare - cue tens of thousands of "all party members must have extra maps" messages.
 
 
admiral sausage
09:33 / 26.03.05
Unless my curiosity gets the better of me I'll wait untill the end of summer for the maps, in thoery I should be too busy for computer games (just bought a new house like the one tom hanks bought in "the money pit") but.......

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is dummying ?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
10:53 / 26.03.05
That's the one that Bungie, for whatever odd reason, called something like "Elite melee ghosting" in the update where they mentioned what cheat fixes they'd be implementing.

It tends to happen a lot in Big Team Battle. A player using the Elite player skin keeps on getting in and out of the passenger seat of a warthog while also repeatedly pressing the melee button. The game gets confused about whether they're in the warthog or out of it, and creates an invisible, controllable version of them in the passenger seat, while the original, visible version is still outside, punching thin air. They then drive straight to the base and the invisible player grabs the flag - as soon as ze does this, the game cathes up on where their original body is and transports the flag straight over to it, making it impossible to stop them scoring. Grabbed by an invisible player, then magicked right over to the capture point.

It's been used against teams I've been on a lot, and I've had even more games where I've had to prevent my own team from doing it by hunting out the original body and betraying it myself - killing the original immediately kills the clone. You then inevitably get abuse from the cheating pricks involved. It's only possible to do it using the Elite skin, so simply removing that from the game would have blocked one of the most used glitches in the game - up until recently, I'd seen dummying used far more often than standby (the one where your team gets taken to the blue 'connecting' screen for ages, then when you come back the other team score immediately).
 
 
admiral sausage
11:24 / 26.03.05
the filthy rotters.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
11:36 / 26.03.05
It's just not cricket.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:22 / 29.03.05
So... given that I don't have broadband yet, is it worth getting Halo 2 for the single-player? (Bear in mind I only recently got myself an XBox, so I'm currently immersed in the first one) I mean, at some point I'll upgrade, but for now it'll just be single player for me if I take the plunge. Or should I wait and buy something else instead?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
10:28 / 29.03.05
Not in my opinion, no, but then I know for a fact that I'm in a tiny minority on this. I found it desperately under-developed and just not very much fun at all. There are far better games out there, all more deserving of your cash.
 
 
hanabius yamamura
15:54 / 29.03.05
re I found it desperately under-developed and just not very much fun at all. There are far better games out there, all more deserving of your cash.

... I couldn't agree more ...

h x
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:11 / 29.03.05
Thanks. I figure I'll probably hold back until I've got broadband then. (It'll probably be cheaper by then, as well).
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:58 / 25.04.05
Got the new maps today. I eventually paid for the two premium ones as well as the free pair, because my not having them was fucking up custom games as everybody on my friends list had grabbed them. I knew it'd be a problem, but I was kind of hoping that I wasn't going to be the only regular player who wasn't going to fork out the cash for them. Unfortunately not. Cue plenty of "the game cannot start as one of your party failed to load the map." Cue my principles being thrown out of the window in favour of a quiet life.

They're all pretty good, but only one feels like anything special. Maybe two. Warlock's just a remake of Wizard from the first game, with everything almost exactly the same, only the wall and floor textures changed. There's an air lift into each of the little 'base' sections, too, but that makes virtually no difference and seems pretty pointless. It's fine, but not anything worth shouting about at all. Turf's great for hide and seek games like Juggernaut, as it has hundreds of little areas you can sneak into to regain health and is basically one big back alley maze. We had some 3 on 1 on there earlier and it was superb. Sanctuary's fairly good fun, and works really well with the old Stealthy Brute, but isn't exactly amazing. Could work excellently with certain custom gametypes - SWAT Team might be a laugh on it.

The best is the big one, Containment. Needs a lot of people on it for it to work, and to be honest feels like it was designed for 32 players rather than Halo 2's maximum of 16, because it's almost too big, if anything. Some gametypes simply don't work on it at all, as it takes a few minutes to get from one side to the other on foot.

Problem is, we've already found a way to break it. All the new maps are covered with invisible walls to prevent people from going outside of the boundaries, but there's a spot on Containment where you can fly a banshee into the seam between a couple of these invisible walls and walk around all the clifftops. It's good fun if you're just messing about with mates, but if Bungie don't fix that before they stick it into matchmaking it'll be horrible - all someone has to do is place themselves up there with a sniper rifle and they're untouchable.
 
  

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