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JLA Classified #1

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miss wonderstarr

22:11 / 10.11.04

Check Iain Banks' Look to Windward for "EDust" or Everything Dust.

07:32 / 11.11.04

I assumed his Dust Cams where some kind of microscopic-particle surveillance system. Like a sprayable sensor web.

Release and watch.

08:37 / 11.11.04

wow! we mean n n n nanomachines? and they've got us c c c confused? yes lads, dust cams. cams made of dust. or maybe warmaker one's built by dyson.

'we're so pretty and we don't care' strikes me as an excellent summation of the attitude held by theultimates/ ultramarines/authority / whoever's having the piss ripped out of them here.

i've read this comic about a dozen times since saturday - can't put it down. love the way squire talks 'an all', 'nice one beryl' which is (or am i going mad) a nod to union jack's talking bike. (?)

very happy when i remembered qwewq was from wonderworld - this is how to work around the continuity corners of a superhero universe surely - leaving little presents all over the place for yourself to come back to, what was the term, super-consistency? the meta commentary made my head spin in a nice way, when she says 'i'm getting something from the jla classified files', and the vertiginous snese of time dilation that comes from considering how old batman is, with referents from the fifties, sixties, seventies, the feeling that knight's career is something rather deep in batman's past though he and the k are still in some ways intended to be contemporaries. weird. good.

09:33 / 11.11.04

"i've read this comic about a dozen times since saturday - can't put it down"

Word to Gambit. It's been sitting on my window ledge for easy access since I bought it. Not even Seaguy got that kind of attention, We3 maybe. This is pop comic fun for fun's sake.

The Ultramarines remind me a lot of that fill-in issue George did on The Authority. Post-Modern Silver Age FUN.

Haus of Mystery

10:27 / 11.11.04

Yeah, s'been next to my bed for a week. Any further and it's heart palpitations.

Haus of Mystery

10:31 / 11.11.04

Triplet's - indeed. The Authority without the tiresome 'SHIT! NOW WE'RE UP AGAINST THE SUN/GOD/THE CONCEPT OF LOVE' etc... stuff.

And i know it's already bin said, but

The BATPHONE

miss wonderstarr

10:50 / 11.11.04

I've had it by my bed for a week and the pages where Batman gets a phone call are all stuck together! Beat dat

Regrettable Juvenilia

10:51 / 11.11.04

When he says "That won't happen. I promise." - I find myself thinking "I wish he was my real daddy!"

miss wonderstarr

13:35 / 11.11.04

I imagine him saying "good soldier, good soldier" and I look at the brightly-lit "House of Bruce and Dick" in an old comic book. Sometimes I read Batman comics lying on my stomach. It gives me a good feeling. I think I would like to be Robin and have relations with Batman. Next week I will tell Dr Wertham and see what he thinks.

Haus of Mystery

14:28 / 11.11.04

I've had it by my bed for a week and the pages where Batman gets a phone call are all stuck together! Beat dat

Sounds like you've done enough beating for the both of us.

Good soldier.

The Natural Way

14:33 / 11.11.04

I didn't mention the word radical, 'vacs. I did use the word redefine, however. And, yeah, it's not as though Morrison and co are going too crazy with the layouts, but there's a lot of pointing in a new direction going on and that can only be a good thing. Again, in We3, when the cat dances between the panels, he's not simply oooing and aaahing us with the idea of jumping off the flat surface of the page, Grant's confident that we just accept that shit now, and, of course, time moves differently for the cat...blah... There's a sense that with JLA and WE3 Grant's consolidating certain ideas, rather than simply gawping at them and going "wow! wouldn't it be great if...."

Oh, and bat-fucking? LOL.

A

14:47 / 11.11.04

i haven't even read this yet, but just reading this thread is giving me a warm, happy feeling and a twinkle in my eye.

15:36 / 11.11.04

>> I think I would like to be Robin and have relations with Batman. Next week I will tell Dr Wertham and see what he thinks.

Be sure to let us know what the venerable Doctor has to say about this.

JLAndroids awaaayy!!!!

I love McGuiness' work on this book.

15:50 / 11.11.04

All this chatter about JLA:c and we3 reminds me of GM's original run on JLA and it's parallel metacomentary in THE INVISIBLES.

Haus of Mystery

16:58 / 11.11.04

Ssssshhh. Don't mention that - we're all over it.

17:24 / 11.11.04

Another thing that's just struck me to mention: Along with the other nods to Morrison's previous JLA run (Ultramarines, Qwewq, evil suns, etc.) I really dug Batman's line "They got lost saving somebody else's universe. Typical." A reference back to JLA: EARTH 2 where he's all "We're not an interdimensional police force." Even with his new flying saucer and bits of Dalek, he's still the same obsessive control freak with an extremely localized self-imposed jurisdiction. Huzzah.

18:57 / 11.11.04

Grant Morrison Pop Culture leaks in around the edges:
Batman owns his own version of the hand of glory boom tube gauntlet a doorway to other worlds, Mini Spitfires attacking Grodd a la King Kong, Beryl, sweet sweet Invisible Beryl former owner of the hand of glory, Ragged Robin typing out the screenplay behind a black cloak and half moon mask, qwewq is it where the JLA got lost as well as where Neh-buh-loh took over the Ragged Robin analogue?
I can't wait for the 30 issue hypertime mystery tour!

Regrettable Juvenilia

08:34 / 12.11.04

Get. Over. Thinvisbles. PLEASE.

Haus of Mystery

09:23 / 12.11.04

Alternatively you could get over other people getting over the Invisibubbles...

09:30 / 12.11.04

what? do you think the glorious che would have freed cuba if he'd got. over. other people not. getting. over. US-backed capitalist oppression?

Whatever! Talk to the beret!

Haus of Mystery

10:36 / 12.11.04

Shut up! Join my cell! Daub yourself with my magic mirror!

11:01 / 12.11.04

In this instance, I do kinda agree with Flyboy.

11:16 / 12.11.04

We'll all look like this come 2012...

Regrettable Juvenilia

11:18 / 12.11.04

I was really only talking to quinine2012. I love everyone else in this thread.

Things this comic has almost entirely restored my faith in:

- Morrison
- Barbelith
- Batman
- humanity

Haus of Mystery

12:40 / 12.11.04

I'l add

Flying Saucers
&
Jet Apes
+
Anti-Bendis/Brubaker dayglo joy.

Haus of Mystery

12:44 / 12.11.04

Oh and Gambit - 2012: this

13:15 / 12.11.04

am i the one behind? o god i am aren't i?

Haus of Mystery

13:56 / 12.11.04

No.

Here you are.

14:49 / 12.11.04

um, is that Roddy MacDowall?

I had forgotten the use of "Beryl" in both works - even though I agree that we kinda need to let go of the idea that everything Morrison writes is a reference the Invisibles, there are certainly echoes here and there. But Beryl being a pretty unusual name, it's obvious Morrison has an affinity for it.

Can't wait for #2! Batman's Pluto base makes me smile.

Only Morrison could pull off a 3 issue story in which the JLA will only appear for probably 1/2 issues and make it work (and feel like a JLA story, somehow)...

miss wonderstarr

16:47 / 12.11.04

I'm stating the obvious but "nice one, Beryl" is a clever twist on the old song "Nice One, Cyril".

18:04 / 12.11.04

Never heard of the song you're referring to but I'll take your word for it. Is it a Brit thing? Who does the song? How old is this song you speak of?

18:12 / 12.11.04

Coventry fans sang it to Cyrille Regis.

It continues:
"...nice one, son/ Nice one, Cyrille/ Let's have another one"

I like the idea of having one's faith in Batman restored.

I feel this idea also, with my heart.

Haus of Mystery

18:23 / 12.11.04

And I, because of this, have had my faith in Duncan Falconer restored...

18:54 / 12.11.04

It's not even about over or under the INVISIBLE.

I was just commenting on how GM is (again) experimenting with themes or methods overtly in a Vertigo comic and somewhat less so in a more mainstream POP comic JLA. It's curious that here on Barbelith the comentary is running somewhat parallel and its interesting to me that both books are on the stands at about the same time.
Whatever the details are I just find it interesting that GM tends to do this. Could THE FILTH & New X meN be looked upon in a similar vein?

Nietzsch E. Coyote

20:25 / 12.11.04

Could THE FILTH & New X meN be looked upon in a similar vein?

Yes, and too a small degree there was some discussion of that.

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