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Should you kiss her before you're boyfriend and girlfriend or after?

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Benny the Ball

18:15 / 01.11.04

I read that last post and pictured Billy Bob Thornton smiling and rubbing a bad knee while tens of shirted technicians cheered and punched the air triumphantly.

Ain't love grand

Ganesh

18:48 / 01.11.04

By tacitly approved Barbelith rules of non-engagement, the fact that she's apparently failing to return your ardour should make you more "in love" with her - albeit in a largely passive, not-really-doing-much kinda way...

Jack Denfeld

19:07 / 01.11.04

Oh, no. I'm actively engaged. I left her a phone message and a myspace message and everything.

Fist Fun

19:27 / 01.11.04

"never got me anywhere but crazy."

I love that expression.

astrojax69

19:53 / 01.11.04

mebbe shoulda kissed her when you had the chance?! mebbe now you'll never know...

of course, someone who falls asleep in your arms in your bed watching the disney channel is not likely to be someone you'll never see again.... : )

so...??? did you go stand under her window and sing sooner or later yet??

Papess

19:54 / 01.11.04

Yep, Barbelith is down on the love thing. It just ain't cool enough for it. However, being cool isn't down with Barbelith either.

Ain't Barbelith grand?

Alex's Grandma

19:58 / 01.11.04

By tacitly approved Barbelith rules of non-engagement...

Don't listen to the nasty man, Delingpole. I for one have got boundless faith that there's a crock of gold at the end of every rainbow, that the sun may yet shine on this thing we call life, and that there is some means, though I know not yet what, by which we may all be saved.

Ganesh

20:18 / 01.11.04

Oh, no. I'm actively engaged. I left her a phone message and a myspace message and everything.

Ahh, but have you charged a sigil and/or checked for secret messages in the titles of books she buys and/or estimated the degree of reticence (as visible in the tenseness of her shoulder muscles) when she snogs that unsuitable bastard she calls her boyfriend but you know she doesn't really love?

I suppose you get bonus BarbePoints for having actually talked to the woman - even if you appear paralysed as to what else to do with her.

You may yet make it as a yellowcoat.

lekvar

20:18 / 01.11.04

SHe fell asleep on my bed for a little bit
This was a hint.
when we were watching Cartoon Network
This was a hint.
and she kinda held onto my arm
This was a hint.
and faced me when she was sleeping
This was a hint.

The last time I had a night like that I ended up with a seven year (so far) relationship.

But she didn't spend the night or anything.
This doesn't necessarily mean anything.

iamus

20:40 / 01.11.04

Except that she's classy

Ganesh

21:06 / 01.11.04

This was a hint.

Well, yes - but quite possibly a hint along 'I feel comfortable sleeping chastely around/watching childrens' television with you because the lack of any sort of sexual dynamic or honest adult-to-adult communication evokes a pre-pubertal era of my life, when I enjoyed perfectly platonic friendships with males' lines.

Ho de ho.

Alex's Grandma

21:11 / 01.11.04

Exactly, Jack Daniels. If you make a mess of this, it could well be years before you meet someone that nice again, who's happy enough to watch Cartoon Network with your good self.

Not to exaggerate what's at stake here or anything ( although she might be your last chance, ) I still think you shouldn't worry too much, and give her a call.

Spatula Clarke

21:16 / 01.11.04

SHe fell asleep on my bed for a little bit
This was a hint. She was bored/knackered.
when we were watching Cartoon Network
This was a hint. Cartoons bore her.
and she kinda held onto my arm
This was a hint. She was slipping off the bed.
and faced me when she was sleeping
This was a coincidence.

Jack Denfeld

21:17 / 01.11.04

All these responses are both giving me great hope and making my stomach all butterfly-like.

Spatula Clarke

21:21 / 01.11.04

Then our work here is done.

Ganesh

21:29 / 01.11.04

Yep. Have a shave, wash your hair, wipe those bee-stung Madoc-lips and red-rimmed weepers, and go talk to the woman in question. You have nothing to lose but your dignity, Dillinger, and that's largely notional.

Jack Denfeld

21:34 / 01.11.04

Yep. Have a shave, wash your hair, wipe those bee-stung Madoc-lips and red-rimmed weepers, and go talk to the woman in question.
I shaved, I've been changing my clothes the last few days and taking showers. I even cleaned the place up when I knew she was coming over.

ONLY NICE THINGS

21:55 / 01.11.04

Tonight you're probably holding hands,
With some skinny pretty boy who like to talk about bands.
All Jake wants to do is ride bikes with you,
And stay in bed, and watch cartoons...

Alex's Grandma

22:02 / 01.11.04

So Debord, have you rung her yet ? There's an audience of at least, well of one, that is literally on tenterhooks, hanging out to hear.

pomegranate

22:03 / 01.11.04

wow, most of my friends and i discuss whether or not we should fuck someone before dating him/her.

maybe she doesn't know how she feels about you, yet.

Alex's Grandma

22:16 / 01.11.04

Well possibly, but shouldn't James Death just make a pass at her though ?

( Hi Praying Mantis, incidentally. )

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

22:25 / 01.11.04

Just don't let Steve get his filthy... yet oh so firm and strong... hands on her, Jose. That's all I'm saying.

Billuccho!

22:40 / 01.11.04

You know you want to.

Jack Denfeld

22:52 / 01.11.04

Yeah!! Great picture! I'm ringing her up now, hold on.

She's not home. I don't wanna try too many times. I guess I'll just keep my eye on the phone and out the window in case she comes over.

Alex's Grandma

22:54 / 01.11.04

Oh God, yes, Steve. I'd forgotten about him, and I do feel ashamed. Anyway, what John Densmore needs to do is arrange a double date with his inammorata, plus a friend, with Benfox as a wingman, on the basis that however badly JD might tend to fuck things up, he at least won't have to castigate himself for getting his cock blocked. Because that, if it happens, will be Ben's fault, again.

The Falcon

22:56 / 01.11.04

Jacques Derrida! You live yet.

The Cartoon Network bit is just too sweet. I hope to read the comic version soon.

Oh, and (O/T) what de Logardiere said, yeah.

8===>Q: alyn

23:02 / 01.11.04

Jack, maybe this will help you:

Yo, Playa,
A show of hands on this one, gang: How many of you have had a mad crush on a honey who looks at you as “just a friend?” I see a lot of hands out there. And guess what? My hand is raised, too. Take comfort in the fact that you aren't alone.

There’re two ways to handle this: The cautious way or the dangerous way.

If you’re feeling cautious, stay the course, and do the best you can to be her friend. The plus there is obvious—you’ll have yourself a nice (and hot) pal. As they say, you can’t have too many friends—and as I say, you can’t have too many female friends. (because their feminine energy keeps us balanced). Remain cautious and the minus—if you keep your true feelings to yourself—is that your time with her will be fraught with uncertainty and tension. You’ll constantly think about kissing her and read into everything she says. It’s called infatuation, and boy, can it be a drag.

On the flipside, if you’re feeling dangerous, tell her you dig her. Don’t mince words; lay it on the line. You never know. She might say she digs you too, and you’ll live (hopefully) happily ever after. Conversely, she might drop the “just-a-friend” bomb, and speaking from personal experience, once she verbalizes this, it’s virtually impossible for you to change her mind—in other words, if she looks at you as a friend rather than a lover, chances are she’ll always look at you in that way. Another minus—and this is an icky one—is that she might freak out and bail on the friendship altogether.

Me, personally, I like to kick it dangerous style. Regardless of the outcome, at least you’ll know.

Oh, by the way, you can put your hands down now.

Jack Denfeld

23:11 / 01.11.04

Ok. I'll go the dangerous way and just tell her. Wish me luck.

Alex's Grandma

23:30 / 01.11.04

" Hi Alan. "

" Hi Alex. "

" Hi... Alan, you must get asked this a lot, so I don't mean to bore you... "

" Buddy, ask away. My time is yours. For the next ten minutes anyway "

" Ok... Well Alan, why aren't you in prison yet ? "

pomegranate

18:20 / 02.11.04

< threadrot> i can't believe you posted that picture, cos on halloween i made out w/a guy dressed as lloyd dobbler. it was so excellent. < /threadrot>

Less searchable M0rd4nt

18:32 / 02.11.04

Jape Doonesford, you have been sadly misled. The truth is that all women are telepathic, able to read the powerful electrical leakage from the Male Brain. If they act as if it were otherwise, it's because either a) they are too callous and insensitive to tune in to your specific leakage, or b) evil liars. Evil evil soul-sucking LIARS.

You must confront her with her insensitivity forthwith. (Pull an Aloof Face while you do it so she'll know you're Serious.)

Sir Real

18:32 / 02.11.04

Hey, me too.

Hmmmmmm

Jack Denfeld

03:12 / 03.11.04

Stupid cruel world. I'm very sad and I don't feel good.

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