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The Emperor Has Ugly Clothes!

  
  

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ibis the being
18:59 / 27.09.04
There have been similar threads, but as with fashion this thread is better to reinvent than to recycle, right?

Right now, as in any given season, there are fashion trends afoot that the mags and TV would like us to believe look cute, but are just UGLY.

I call bullshit on those tweed suits with the fringy edges. They're everywhere, and they're awful. They're the opposite of slimming, they're shapeless, the colors are usually disgusting, and the effect of that multicolored weave is like some dizzying optical illusion. Bullshit.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:23 / 27.09.04
And this is in the Convo, rather than in Art, Fashion and Design because...?
 
 
ibis the being
19:44 / 27.09.04
Well, my thoughts were 1. because I just want to have a casual silly conversation about it and 2. because the AFD is a ghost town. But hey, mods feel free to move.

(And PS, settle down, Chauncey.)
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
20:11 / 27.09.04
OK...fine...sagging your pants to show your underwear strikes me as the most annoying fashion trend in modern history. I'd rather see people wearing old hippie clothes.

But then again, I still dress like Kurt Cobain...just like I did before he made it a fashion trend.
 
 
Mazarine
20:15 / 27.09.04
The addition of something ridiculous to otherwise nice clothing. Fake flower pinned/sewn/glued on, odd piping, pink pinstripes. This pink and turquoise thing really, really has to stop.
 
 
Papess
20:16 / 27.09.04
The whole over-one-shoulder-cavedweller look on shirts and dresses, for certain. Matched up with, (of course), a pair of sneakers with 2 inch heels, (what else?).

Just awful.

At least make the heels about 4 inches. If your going to don trash couture, no half measures please.
 
 
Benny the Ball
21:46 / 27.09.04
Poncho's.

fuck off.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
02:05 / 28.09.04
Girls wearing matching ponchos/jean/shirt ensembles in public.

Fuck off.

Cowboy boots.

Fuck off.

Trucker caps.

Fuck off fuck off fuck off.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
02:09 / 28.09.04
I mean groups of girls with the 'xact same clothes, of course.
 
 
Papess
03:40 / 28.09.04
Girls wearing matching ponchos/jean/shirt ensembles in public.

Don't guys ever do this? Oh yes, it is called a sport then.
 
 
Charlie's Horse
04:15 / 28.09.04
Howsabout sleeveless turtleneck sweaters. Sleeveless.. turtleneck.. sweaters. Sometimes even of wool, for that matter.

Da fug? Did I miss something? Is this the fashion equivalent to a borderline personality disorder, or schizophrenia? 'I just can't decide who I am today.' I just hope the treatment involves butane.
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
06:24 / 28.09.04
Cowboy boots are fucking sexy!

Fuck off: T-shirts with slogans, or quippy phrases like "I fucked your boyfriend" or "courage courage courage"
 
 
Lord Morgue
07:29 / 28.09.04
Puffy white jackets on anorexic chainsmoking westie skags who think they're plastic homey girls who think they're Paris Hilton. Sorry honey, you need a LOT of money to make "dirty slut" work for you like she does.
 
 
Grey Area
07:46 / 28.09.04
Shoes with pointy toes and next to no heel that add three or four inches to the length of your foot but barely cover your toes. It looked naff in medieval times, and things haven't changed since then...

For those of us at university: Are 50% (approx.) of your female undergraduate population also still trying to wear sandals, flip-flops, strappy tops and waders, i.e. their summer attire, and thereby arriving in class turning blue from hypothermia?
 
 
Sax
08:05 / 28.09.04
Can this be a pictures thread? Because I want to see what you lot are wearing before I make my final style decisions based on what you say.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:19 / 28.09.04
He's got a point - decked out as I am at present in an unholy mix of John Lewis, Marks and Sparks, Grenson and Oz Boateng, I'm in *no* position to judge anyone else, except possibly Jim from the Burtons ads in the 1980s.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
09:16 / 28.09.04
Why is it mainly women who are being castigated for their poor/inappropriate fashion sense in this thread? (apart from the jeans-round-crotch thing) Is it because women are more obviously fashionable or interested in fashion than men? Or is it because it's always been thought OK to criticise women for their dress, whereas it hasn't been thought relevant to criticise men...

(I don't like pointy flats either, mind)
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:21 / 28.09.04
Very good point - maybe we can tie it in to the fat question in "What up, dork élite"? Possibly we see one of women's roles as to display - therefore, if they do not make themselves attractive in a way that is also attractive to *us*, they are letting both us and themselves down... Men, on the other hand, can continue to dress like Kurt Cobain (and possibly in clothes of the same vintage), because the requirement of men's clothes is to provide warmth and covering...
 
 
Axolotl
11:06 / 28.09.04
I would argue that it is probably because fashion trends in womens clothing tend to be more pronounced and different to previous seasons trends, where as male fashion trends seem to be more about fine details and have a longer shelf life, often extending over multiple seasons.
However the reasons behind these differences are probably linked to those factors Haus mentioned.
 
 
The Strobe
11:50 / 28.09.04
Ug boots.

And then those stupid wellies that look set to replace ug boots.

Ponchos are less of a pressing issue.
 
 
Sir Real
12:05 / 28.09.04
Caps. Capscapscaps. See, it even sounds ugly. I don't care which direction you turn the bill. The worse offenders are fraternity boys, evidently seeking to hide their foreheads so we can't see the vacuity beneath. Hats are, of course, another matter.

The rule proving exception to my cap contempt: my partner looks ADORABLE in her Dawn of the Dead cap. (If I knew how to work the emoticons I'd put a nice, sappylovie one here)
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
12:07 / 28.09.04
Can't say I'm suprised by the female bias. And Kit-kat/haus have nailed most of the reasons for that. Particularly, I think, Haus is on the money with his point about women having somehow a responsibility to present attractively

Men's dress is, *at this point in time* more middle of the road, so its aberrations are not of the easily apparent.

I could say, for example, that I find 80% of men's dress absolutely appalling due to its lack of imagination and the sense of lack of bodily awareness/how to buy clothes that bloody fit. Which is true.

But then I look at this stuff. And consider men to be just as potentially (non)ornamental as women.

So: badly fitting jeans on men. Lumberjack shirts on anyone Ug boots, yes! fucking horrible things.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:14 / 28.09.04
Caps. Capscapscaps. See, it even sounds ugly. I don't care which direction you turn the bill. The worse offenders are fraternity boys, evidently seeking to hide their foreheads so we can't see the vacuity beneath. Hats are, of course, another matter.

The rule proving exception to my cap contempt: my partner looks ADORABLE in her Dawn of the Dead cap. (If I knew how to work the emoticons I'd put a nice, sappylovie one here)

Oh for fuck's sake.
 
 
Bear
12:17 / 28.09.04
Leave off the badly fitting jeans, what else would I wear?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
12:32 / 28.09.04
ooh! ooh! this thread should evolve in to Barbelith's own 'what not to wear': hosted by yours truly and Anna de Logardiere.

Line up boys, it's TIME
 
 
Sax
12:39 / 28.09.04
I quite agree. Those who have posted so far should describe in detail their "best" outfit, and let Bip and Anna rip 'em to bits.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
12:43 / 28.09.04
absolutely. Bring it on. I'm quite prepared to play...
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:51 / 28.09.04
I don't think I *have* a "best" outfit. Actually, I'm not sure I have an *outfit*. Thank God I didn't post about how shit everyone else's clothes are, eh?

(Adjusts pants. Which are his only item of clothing).
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
13:01 / 28.09.04
Shoes! What's the bloody point! All the time spent taking them off, and putting them on. Shining them, storing them. Ban 'em, I say.
 
 
Lord Morgue
13:11 / 28.09.04
When I'm not in corperate wage-slave mode, I tend to dress all in ragged black, like a homeless ninja...
 
 
No star here laces
13:20 / 28.09.04
You know which men's fashion trend I fuckin hate? Those shirts with the really high collar and two collar buttons instead of one. Been around for ages and shows no sign of disappearing.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:26 / 28.09.04
Ah, but who designs your clothes, Morgue. How do they fit? How often do you "refresh" your wardrobe? Are you wearing a cap? If so, are you going out with visvis13?

These are important...
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:31 / 28.09.04
Laces: How about collars with a button on one wing and a loop on the other, in order to pull them together? I feel deep ambivalence about that...
 
 
Papess
13:39 / 28.09.04
Cowboy boots are fucking sexy!

I am with wembley on this...regardless of what Anna might say. I love almost all boots, however.


A Boot Fashion don't: Big, Fuzzy, Hairy Abominable Snowman boots...They were stupid in the '70's, and still stupid today.
 
 
Lord Morgue
13:54 / 28.09.04
Unless you are a Cimmerian, by Crom!
I wear only the finest generic tracksuit pants, runners and blank T-shirts. My jacket is by Katies, but as I have removed the label, no-one will ever know, unless they notice which side the buttons are on.
 
  

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