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How Grant Morrison made me drop the X-Men (long post)

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

07:05 / 18.08.04

I figured Fly was talking about the thread, rather than the comic itself, which I did love but which is, indeed, a long way from being above criticism.

Regrettable Juvenilia

07:28 / 18.08.04

Yeah, but I should have clarified that it's not threads that say Morrison is great that I mind, after all I'm right there with the people who think Seaguy is worthy of great praise... It's the threads that don't really say anything new or coherent that get my goat. And no, I don't have to read them, I mean I could quit Barbelith entirely, but I feel that would usher in a time of darkness for many, so I'm sticking it out for now...

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

08:18 / 18.08.04

Fair enough. And it's kind of essential that you CAN criticise stuff here, otherewise we'd be like... like... like certain other comics boards I could mention.

Haus of Mystery

10:16 / 18.08.04

Wow. Another X-thread, another few moments of my time well spent...

14:12 / 19.08.04

Just stating the obvious...but I too filled spoiled by Morrison's run on X-Men (quite the same way I feel spoiled by Bendis' run on Ultimate Spidey). Both writers got right to the heart of what makes these characters intriguing. I mean they really get the characters and what they should be. Claremont's writing is like a cancer. You see the detrioration each month. I hadn't read X-Men out of disgust for like 4 years before Morrison's run. And I refuse to acknowledge the other current books that's not Astonishing X-Men. I follow creators now. Not characters. Even if I like the characters alot (which is the case with X-Men and Spider-Man), but it's not worth dragging myself through the mud hoping it will get better and wasting money consistently every month. I have that luxury because I manage a comic shop, but before got this gig, if I didn't like it, I didn't read it. (I still dont know or care how the clone saga ended or what happen with the 3rd Summer Brother because I just gave up on the writers). I wish more of my customers would follow this concept.

Nietzsch E. Coyote

07:10 / 20.08.04

Perhaps some people praise George a little too much. On the other hand I can see a way to praise New X meN in such a way that it deserves it.

COMPARED to other X men writing.

Clearly New X men is far superior to just about EVERY other issue of the X books. Whedon could keep the line worth reading but I am not too sure about that. While George was on it, it was worth reading. He made Scott Summers interesting with out changing who he was. In fact he made old BAD writing of Scott make more sense.

08:42 / 20.08.04

You know im really surprised no ones replied.

"with a large stick...."

"or by tickling me with large rubber hands.."

End of thread rot move along now nothing to see.

The Natural Way

11:18 / 23.08.04

Just to clear something up - Beast wasn't wrong about Cassandra's nano-sentinels. We're meant to assume they're in her blood, are we not? She injects herself with purple shit (sentinel juice) and then sprays the X-Men with it when her body gets gunned down. Xorn's not even on the scene at that point.

11:33 / 23.08.04

Your right my mistake, i assumed Beast and Jean got infected when they were in Genosha.

07:21 / 24.08.04

Also about the links between Cassandra Nova and the U-Men, in #125, Beast says that the "Sentinel-enriched liquid is what drove U-Men technology". Meaning the U-Men used nano-sentinels in their technology, and possibly for their grafts etc. Call these 'good' nano-sentinels, because Beast plans on injecting this into Cass' body, so it will heal it from all of the diesease's ravaging it, and enable her body's healing factor.

The X-Men are infected with 'bad' nano-sentinels obviously, in that they're targeting the white blood cells, and not promoting healing. Xorneto just took advantage of the nano's being their systems.

10:37 / 24.08.04

i thought it was more that mozzer wrapped up all his lazy arsed plot holes with the deus ex machina that was effectively smart-mold, suggesting that it was behind everything all along and that you shouldn't wonder too closely at the mechanics of how it did it, it just did.

shame, as it started off so well but totally lacked the tightness and focus in story telling that means alan moore will always triumph in terms of sheer talent every time

#ahem#

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Regrettable Juvenilia

10:55 / 24.08.04

Bingo on the first paragraph.

Not so sure about the second one.

Behold! The bearded man!

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