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quixote
22:51 / 05.10.05
I wanted to hark back to the global warming and thermal expansion of water topic on approx. the first screen's worth of comments. Thermal expansion is *huge*. Eg this from WorldWatch: 20% of the rise in sea levels is melting ice, the rest is thermal expansion. Over the past century, global sea levels have risen an estimated 10 to 25 centimeters (4 to 10 inches). So 8-20 centimeters of the rise is due only to bigger atoms of water, not more of them. It's exactly the same process as the thermal expansion of air, such as lifts hot air balloons, but we're not used to thinking about water in those terms because its coefficient of expansion is so tiny. That means on the scale of a pot of water, it's indetectable. On the scale of an ocean, it can flood Bombay.

Aside to the person asking about snowflakes: there's a marvelous site with stunning snowflake photos by Libbrecht, a researcher on snowflakes, and others. There's much more info about snowflakes there, too.

Finally: re synching menstrual cycles: yes, it's hormones, but how does female A know what female B's hormones are up to? Apparently that's communicated by pheromones or some sort of molecules that affect the olfactory system, but without any conscious perception of odor.
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
06:37 / 24.10.05
So my stupid science question, if I may?

The avain flu panic. Is it that increased globalisation and industrial farming of livestock has lead to the mutation of new strains of influenza? As in different animals have come into contact with each other perhaps with different strains that interact?
 
 
Saveloy
13:26 / 24.10.05
Question: where would I find out which bit of the Earth the Moon happens to be directly above at any given time? Or, put another way - if you froze time and drew the shortest possible line between the Moon and the Earth, which point on Earth would the line touch?

Ideally I'm after a map of the Earth with the Moon's course plotted across it like a flight path, with corresponding dates etc.
 
 
Evil Scientist
14:19 / 24.10.05
The avain flu panic. Is it that increased globalisation and industrial farming of livestock has lead to the mutation of new strains of influenza? As in different animals have come into contact with each other perhaps with different strains that interact?

Well, the panic is due to valid concerns of the avian flu becoming totally human-pathogenic. It's happened before (the Spanish Flu outbreak of 1918), so the fear is it could jump the species barrier and cause another pandemic.

The big threat with a viral pathogen is it's ability to alter the markers on it's protein coat so that it is no longer recognised by the immune system of the host organism. Once antigenic shift has occured then the antibodies produced by the immune system have no way of locking onto the virus and marking it as "other". Influenza is notorious for mutating extremely rapidly.

Industrial, or battery, farms of chickens probably haven't helped containment of the virus. Most animals in these conditions have weaker immune systems due to stress and lack of exercise so a virus has a better chance of surviving long enough to mutate and evade. So in a sense yes, a battery farm could provide an "infection pool".

However the big risk is from migratory wild birds whose travel cannot be regulated as easily as livestock.

It's jumping from bird to humans has come about most likely by a combination of opportunity and natural selection. A strain of influenza that can infect more hosts than any other is more likely to express itself.

Arguably globalisation provides a weapon against the spread of pandemics. As standardisation of operating procedures and the methods used to control things like infection would be implemented on a worldwide basis with less difficulty than a hundred countries all doing their own thing.
 
 
quixote
02:33 / 27.10.05
Just to add to the Evil Scientist's response:

In one way battery farming actually reduces the chance for a human-transmissible flu. In SE Asia, it is the close proximity between farmers and their birds that is part of the problem. They can catch flu from the birds. If they happen to have another (human) flu at the same time, the two could exchange genetic material, and you could have a human-killer-flu very suddenly. That closeness and quantity of contact doesn't happen in factory farms. (None of this changes the points about weaker immune systems and hotbeds of infection among the animals.)

In another way, factory (and ordinary) farming can indeed select for bad mutations: by feeding the animals antivirals and breeding resistant strains of viruses. It's the same process as antibiotic resistance among some lethal bacteria. The bacteria or viruses themselves are no more lethal than they ever were, but if we have no drugs that can kill them, they're as fatal as they used to be. The Chinese, for instance, apparently feed two antivirals (amantadine and rimantadine) indiscriminately to farm birds, with the result that those two are useless against flu. (They were only invented a few years ago. As the Evil Scientist says, viruses mutate *really fast*.) In a recent study by the CDC, 12% of their flu samples (I don't know how many different strains that represented) were already resistant to tamiflu.
 
 
grant
17:11 / 28.10.05
Sav: you can get some of what you want from the "earth map" function described on this page. I haven't d/led the software, so I don't know how exactly it works, but most of this planetarium-style software as a fast-forward button that'll basically animate motion over long stretches of time, so you could follow the moon across the map. If the software does that.
 
 
eye landed
10:24 / 29.10.05
why are viruses species-specific? does avian flu hijack parts of the DNA not present in humans?
 
 
quixote
01:52 / 30.10.05
S.h.e.r.m.a.n: at least part of the reason viruses are species-specific is due to the specificity of immune systems and cell surface receptors. A virus has to be able to latch onto one of the host's cell surface receptors to gain entry into a cell, so that it can produce more little viruses. If there's no match, the virus can't do anything, and will soon be destroyed by the host's immune system. It takes very precise adaptation to match a surface receptor closely enough, and the chances of another species having an identical receptor is small. (Consider that certain cell surface receptors are the molecules matched in tissue typing for organ donation. These receptors are hard to match even among individuals within a species. Viruses target other receptors, but they're still highly variable.)

The other factor is the host's immune system. If it happens to be primed to target that virus even without prior infection, the virus won't survive.

So human flu viruses are adapted to human cell surface receptors, but bird flu viruses slide right off. If they manage to exchange the crucial bits of genetic material, the bird flu virus could acquire the knack of latching onto human cells.
 
 
Saveloy
10:42 / 31.10.05
grant>

That's brilliant, thank you! Doesn't do *precisely* what I want, but it's near as dammit.
 
 
Lama glama
17:13 / 08.11.05
How are plants affected by centripedal forces? A lecturer mention the obvious examples of centripedal events, moon orbitting the Earth, Earth around the sun, etc, but then he threw in that plants displayed centripedal behaviour. I asked him, how, only to be told that the answer would complicate matters further and wasn't suitable for the current physics lecture.

However, as a biology student I was wondering if anybody here could answer this question for me.
 
 
quixote
01:32 / 09.11.05
Energizer: I'm the botanist kind of biologist, mit Ph. D. and all the fixins, and I have No Idea what that prof is talking about. Plants show centripetal forces? Say what? I mean, for starters, doesn't a body have to be spinning to show either centripetal or centrifugal force? I'll grant that some flagellate green algae spin as they swim, but I doubt very much that's what he was talking about, and if he was, I doubt he's right. They just kind of go forward.

Get him to explain. Or maybe don't. If he was covering up for some stupid slip of the tongue, he'll just get annoyed if he has to admit it.
 
 
Lama glama
10:00 / 09.11.05
We were recently doing a biology lab practical, where we were observing chloroplasts moving in a circular motion under the microscope. I was wondering if perhaps this might be the extent to which plants show this force. However, having said that, what would the force pulling on these chloroplasts be.

Hmm. Perhaps I should corner him after a lecture some day..
 
 
Sjaak at the Shoe Shop
11:11 / 09.11.05
Energizer:
Plants are show centripedal effects in so far as they rotate with the earth and have the tendency to be subject to gravity. Like most things on the surface of our planet.

Chloroplast circular motions however could be due to Coriolis forces, the same as a body of water. These also involve centripedal effects, in this case caused by pressure (in a rotating body of water inside a tank the water level will be higher towards the outside, resulting in an inward pressure, counterbalancing the rotation).

Centripedal doesn't say anything about the origin of a force, only about the effect on an object (similar to saying plants suffer from 'accellerating effects')
 
 
Sjaak at the Shoe Shop
17:15 / 14.11.05
I have owned several garlic presses over the years, and have found that when not cleaned properly immediately after use they tend to corrode dramatically.
It happens too fast to be attributable to water held by the garlic remnants, and having observed it with different presses indicates it is not a material issue.
So, anybody who can tell me if garlic is heavily corrosive? and so, why?
 
 
grant
20:24 / 14.11.05
I suspect garlic, like lemons, tomatoes and other foods, is slightly acidic.

If it's not that, then the corrosion is from oxidation from some of the other compounds -- I know garlic's got a lot of sulfur-containing compounds that break down upon exposure to oxygen, so maybe there's some kind of action going on along those lines. I'm not a chemist, so I couldn't say what it is.
 
 
delta
12:32 / 18.11.05
Sjaak:

I think what you're talking about is pressure gradient force, not coriolis.

Rationally, the magnitude of apparent coriolis force is dependent upon the speed of the relevant body, so I very much doubt you'd see any effect on microscopic scale creatures. I might be wrong on that, but instinctively, coriolis only exists due to a mismatch between scale and perception, so if you share, or have a greater scale than your observation I wouldn't have though you'd really see it anyway. Ahrens, C.D. (1998) 'Essentials of Meteorology' has a really nice example involving a roundabout for further detail.
 
 
nameinuse
13:43 / 18.11.05
Sjaak - The garlic thing, I would have though (this is a guestimate based on a lot of cooking and some chemistry) is that the sulphur compounds present in all aliums (but particularly garlic) react with the metal of the garlic press and either cause the corrosion themselves directly or by creating sulphuric acid or related compounds(as they do when they hit the tears in the eye, hence the stinging).

I'm sure even stainless steel is reactive to some of these compounds. How else would rubbing the taps/sink/little-lump-of-steel-sold-as-miracle-product take the odour of garlic away from your hands after you've chopped it?
 
 
Olulabelle
10:12 / 07.02.06
Is it possible to break an MRI scanner (or produce incorrect scans) by harmonising with the tones the scanner produces?

A friend of a friend apparently did this, but I had an MRI scan today and the machine produces very loud tones. I would have thought that unless one was an opera singer the human voice wouldn't be loud enough to cause any sort of fault, even if it was technically possible to do it.
 
 
Quantum
15:01 / 07.02.06
Sound or noise shouldn't affect the magnetic resonance imaging itself as it's EM waves not sound waves. I think the tones are side effects of the magnetic equipment working, even loud harmonic tones wouldn't interfere with it as it's too robust. Am I right in thinking it's one of the coffin-style ones?
 
 
Smoothly
19:58 / 07.02.06
Didn't your MRI scanner make crashing, banging, juddering noises, Lula? Isn't that to do with the physical mechanics of the apparatus rather than the EM waves doing the scanning? In either case, I don't really understand how it would be possible to harmonise with them, even if that would break the machine. It'd be like trying to harmonise with a pinball machine.
 
 
■
20:29 / 07.02.06
Yeah, you have to be Roger Daltrey to do that. I'm glad I'm not the only one nonplussed by this. You sure your friend isn't bullshitting you?
 
 
Olulabelle
21:34 / 07.02.06
Yes, mine did make banging and crashing noises, and it was the coffin style one.

It was about 5 years ago that this apparently happened, so the machine might have been a bit different.

It does sound a bit suspect though...
 
 
Smoothly
23:12 / 07.02.06
The way you describe it, it sounds like the hospital blamed your friend for the scan being 'incorrect', because ze was making noises that harmonised with the scanner. Sounds more than suspect, it sounds like some hurriedly improvised cover-up for something.
 
 
moonweaver
21:30 / 08.02.06
Just a wee question regarding if 'fire' has a binding force in its nature, and if so what it is called?
For example, you roll a cigarette with the powdered dregs of a packet, the tobacco falls out, yet as soon as it is lit it sort-of keeps itself together...
I suppose the answer in right in front of me, yet cannot think of what it would be...and yes i have minimal knowledge of chemistry...
thanks
 
 
nameinuse
09:08 / 09.02.06
I don't think fire has a binding force - in fact, it's probably the opposite, it tends to push things appart. In the case of a cigarette my best guess would be that the tobacco ash expands a bit(due to the water and oil evapouration)as it burns, and this wedges the rest in place. It may also be that the action of smoking just sucks all the loose bits of tobacco back into the cigarette.
 
 
grant
16:34 / 09.02.06
My best guess: What is cigarette smoke full of? It is full of tar. What is tar? Tar is sticky. The same thing's happening to the cilia in your lungs, man.


A couple months after the fact but: I'm sure even stainless steel is reactive to some of these compounds. How else would rubbing the taps/sink/little-lump-of-steel-sold-as-miracle-product take the odour of garlic away from your hands after you've chopped it?

I remember hearing a Real Live Food Chemist talk about this on the radio, and I think (but am not 100% sure) the deal was that stainless steel catalyzed a reaction between garlicky sulfur stuff and water.
 
 
mistress_swank
14:09 / 14.02.06
Dumb science question. . .

What are all the dimensions? I guess you have the three basic dimensions -- point, line, volume (what are they really called?). So there's time, space and space-time? What?

And what about string theory? Twenty-six dimensions or something, and we're on a medium-sized string, which means we haven't been subsumed into another small string and we have enough girth not to be crashed into by a bigger string. . .?

Does this sound nuts to anyone else? Have I been reading too much New Scientist? What does this mean?

Can theoretical physicists tie their shoes?
 
 
Olulabelle
21:17 / 14.02.06
Mistress Swank, I asked that question in the original Stupid Science Questions thread, and there are a whole load of answers which start around about here, with, (I think) Grant.
 
 
Olulabelle
21:18 / 14.02.06
Actually, I didn't ask the bit about theoretical physicists being able to tie their shoes, but I do know one, and he can.
 
 
Perfect Tommy
03:30 / 16.02.06
I have a stupid question about microwaves.

Say I'm heating something which can be heated for a few minutes in my electric oven, half a minute or so in the microwave. Which is more energy efficient? The oven needs time to pre-heat and it takes several minutes; the microwave just goes on, and takes less time, but microwaves have MUCH higher energy than infrared waves.
 
 
Perfect Tommy
03:31 / 16.02.06
Oh, furthermore, the heating element in the oven is a large piece of metal; I assume that the, uh, microwave-wiggling element in the microwave is relatively small. But I don't know how the demons inside them actually cook food, really.
 
 
mohfario
08:10 / 16.02.06
I was recently referred to an article by my brother, an avid Half-Life fan, regarding the Grand Unified Theory—a theory that has been unsuccessfully sought after by Einstien and succeding physicists. Apparently the environmental physics engine in Half-Life 2 contains the Grand Unified Theory. This seems like a big deal to me. Is it just bollocks, or is there some truth to this article? If there is some truth to it, is it not worthy of more publicity? Is it a big deal?

http://bbspot.com/News/2003/12/valve_unified_theory.html
 
 
Saltation
11:14 / 16.02.06
Heh. It's a prank article.

Quite a good one, though.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
09:31 / 17.02.06
This is a slightly strange question.

On this Nasa page: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research/warp/ideachev.html (sorry I've no idea how to post links) they talk about a hypothetical Diode Sail and a hypothetical Induction Sail, I'm guessing from their descriptions that they would actually look a bit like sails but can anyone who know a lot more about physics than I do guess at what they would look like? And how possible are these ideas?
 
 
Future Perfect
09:06 / 01.03.06
So, my girlfriend and I are embarking on a bit of a healthy diet regime and are trying to get our five-a-day count of fruit and vegetables.

Obviously, I think this is a good thing, but, other than in some very general sense, don't really know why. Any scienceheads out there ready to give me the answers?

(My own research just seems to throw up lots of too generic Government and other interest group sites)
 
  

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