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!!!: Louden Up Now

 
  

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Regrettable Juvenilia
14:22 / 16.07.04
I kept putting this off because I was waiting until I had something clever to say, but fuck it. (Besides, I don't think I could equal David McNamee's review of Louden Up Now). But I love this album. I love the way that, as McNamee says, "you can actually hear the stereo-panned guitars coming up" towards the end of '(When The Going Gets Tough, The Tough Get) Karazzee'. I love the brutal dancefloor destruction that is 'Pardon My Freedom', complete with brutal, 'unreasonable' political agitation. I love the way 'Hello? Is This Thing On?' captures drug-induced party alienation and paranoia. I love the Slits/'The Message' shuffle of the beat to 'Shit, Schiese, Merde Pt 1'. Obviously I love 'Me & Giuliani...', one of the defining singles of last year. And even the way !!!'s vocals (and lyrics) can be a little stoner-clumsy, I find endearing.

Who else shares my love?
 
 
Mike Modular
01:54 / 17.07.04
I've been loving this long time... It's incredibly addictive. Saw them at 93ft East and was, y'know, impressed by their team-work and energy and all (but a little crushed in an overcrowded venue with bad sound) but have found a lot of time since for the album. Try it on a personal stereo and feel empowered as it commands you to swagger with a grin to the genius/dumb likes of "you can tell the president to suck my fucking dick".

I think my favourite bit is the all too brief sped-up shuffle after the Bush/Blair line in Shit Scheisse Merde. Can't really explain it, but it just... does it for me...
 
 
rizla mission
09:28 / 17.07.04
So.. how do you think !!! compare to LCD Soundsystem?

Oh, and not strictly relevent, but I'm still mildly annoyed/amused by the fact that !!!'s name just doesn't work. I understand the concept behind it, but can you imagine saying to somebody "so.. whatdoya think of the new record by BANG!BANG!BANG!?" They wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about - from now until the end of time, they'll be known as "that three exclamation marks band". The only way it works is on the printed page or the internet, which seems vaguely at odds with the bands dance/action/reality philosophy..

So in conclusion: I'd very much like to check this album out.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
11:31 / 17.07.04
Yes, I'm with Rizla on this. How the fuck would you go about finding !!!'s latest in a record shop ( or, y'know multi-media entertainment centre, " mall, " centre of leisure, centre of despair, ) and if you couldn't, what would you do ? Go up to the Swedish goth at the cash desk and ask for the new one by !!!, totally confident that about an hour later you won't be escorted out the building by security ? It seems a fairly big leap of faith. If they were called Arsecandle or something, at least you'd know what you were letting yourself in for.

That said though, !!!'s CD/DVD/whatever does sound good. For those, like me, who've got complicated living arrangements, I'd recommend allowing the Polish refugees to put on Madonna's greatest hits, just this once, in their bedroom, while putting on PIL in yours, and then just sitting about on the " demarcation " line, tapping your foot, having a good time, a shotgun, as ever, trained on their door.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:49 / 17.07.04
It's pronounced "chik chik chik".
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
13:14 / 17.07.04
Totally forming a band called "Chick Chick Chick" to throw a spanner in the works. We will be an ironic techno/metal band who write songs around evangelical tracks by Jack Chick. In triplicate.
 
 
rizla mission
13:34 / 17.07.04
Not exactly sold on the concept there, but "Chick Chick Chick" is indeed an AMAZING bandname. It's going on the list.
 
 
nedrichards is confused
21:35 / 17.07.04
I'm liking it a lot (only £6.99 for quality mp3s from bleep) a lot of a lot in fact. I just love the breakdown in 'Pardon My Freedom' throw yourself around a tube carriage music! LCD Soundsystem are still better. I mean if the question was 'What's better than carrying on living?' the answer's still the LCD Soundsystem. It just is.
 
 
Mike Modular
23:37 / 17.07.04
Actually, it's "Chk Chk Chk, Pow Pow Pow, Unh Unh Unh, etc. Or any 3 repetitive sounds" according to the sticker on the single... But I always say Chk Chk Chk.

Can't say with any real authority how they compare to LCD, but 'Me and Giuliani...' towers above what I've heard so far (which I do like). But, yeah, nedrichards, I've often had the urge to endanger my fellow tube passengers when it all gets Karazzee...
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
12:41 / 18.07.04
I actually really like the name, it's just a statement that can't be replicated in mere words - like you know how in comics you'll get a speech bubble that's merely "!" to represent a feeling, it's almost the same as having a band called "POW!" but it's simpler and more effective for it. As well as being open to interpretation! As well as being clear! I can see it causing problems finding records/asking for them, etc, but I think it all adds to the fun. (Although really, I don't think it's going to be so difficult to ask for "three exclamation marks", which I think totally fits in with what they're about, as I imagine flyers and loads of paraphenalia that just jumps out at you going "!!!" like some underground movement... and if you know, you know!)

It's a clear statement of intent! I tend to use that kind of thing a lot in written conversation, though. Who cares if you can't really say it!

!
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
14:43 / 18.07.04
In other news, "Chick Chick Chick"'s debut album "Chicken", will be a biting satire about a man who wants an egg. For his tea.

We'll be making Ca$h Money off this shit, mark my words.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
23:26 / 18.07.04
Thankyew Flyboy. I'll try and give !!! a whirl this week, then.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
10:51 / 21.07.04
Heard the single last night, good, but only in the sense it's totally by the book punk/funk. Nothing much new or different, and I had a Muzik cover CD in 2003 with stuff that sounded punkier and funkier than this.

But it is good. It has to be because it's so close to pre-existing good stuff.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:58 / 21.07.04
I mean if the question was 'What's better than carrying on living?' the answer's still the LCD Soundsystem. It just is.

That's the rightest statement I have ever read.
 
 
Red Cross Iodized Salt
23:27 / 21.07.04
One cool thing about the name is that it makes it nearly impossible to find their music on filesharing networks (without at least knowing the name of a song). I don't think you can even do a Google search on them.
 
 
rizla mission
09:29 / 22.07.04
I don't think that's very cool.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
13:40 / 22.07.04
Holy shit, I just read the review in the first post, and that is the worst damn peice of writing ever.

LOOK! LOOK AT ME! LISTEN TO ALL MY OPINIONS! SEE HOW OBSCURE I CAN BE! CATCH ALL MY REFERENCES!
 
 
The Natural Way
14:15 / 22.07.04
Poo, New Yawk dance-punk's just soooo last summer. And LCD are tiiiiiiiiired.

Anyone would think grime (and all its attendent beasts: dubstep, UK bass, etc) never happened.

Well, we are playing at *cool*..........
 
 
Tryphena Absent
15:01 / 22.07.04
LCD are not tired. You are a heathen and a pig.

And honestly Radiator, do stand still and be a dear, all that jumping up and down can only be making you ill.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:05 / 22.07.04
Who's playing at cool, V? The album came out this summer so I don't really care whether it's trendy or not... See my comments in the Miss Kittin thread about how the people who say she's "over" give listening to this kind of music a bad name... And I don't see why you can't listen to !!! AND Wiley or whoever, y'know?

Radiator, thanks for confirming that review's brilliance.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
01:15 / 24.07.04
To clarify: That review has less to do with the greatness of the band than the reviewer's percieved greatness of himself. It makes no sense, it's hard to read and it reeks of pretension. It's like a million Tony Parsons at a million keyboards. The writer likely works in the media, is well conected and has no talent whatsoever. It's a score of pretty metaphors mashed together without semblence of meaning. It tells me more about the monster-like ego of the writer than the band he's writting about. It's prattle.

Which is more or less uptight barbel-speak for "the dude's full of shit, brah". Horrid. I've posted snippets of that site to various friends and all of them have been disgusted. If you identify strongly with the reviewer, I know all I'll ever need to know about you and I feel utterly vindicated, Flyboy.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:49 / 24.07.04
Well I just think that these guys rock.

Radiator, is it any real wonder that, y'know, er...
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
05:46 / 24.07.04
Any wonder that what?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:57 / 27.07.04
No, I don't "identify strongly with the reviewer" - what an odd way to put it. I like the piece. I like the unusual structure that helps it stand out from your average review. I like the points McNamee makes. I won't deny it's a challenging piece, and I'm sorry if the mention of political history throws you, but don't be scared. Put a little work in and the points are there - direct observations about the music, Radiator, often even specific enough to relate to a certain point in the duration of a song. Points like the fact that the guitars at one point during 'Karazee' closely recreate the experience of "coming up" on E, or the fact that the vocals on the chorus of 'Pardon My Freedom' have a percussive effect.

That being said, it's true that McNamme writes in a rather allusive way - sometimes apparently abstract or free-associating - that can be difficult. For this very reason, I can't really see what connection the review has to the blokeish, prosaic stylings of someone like Tony Parsons - the two writers seem at opposite ends of the stylistic spectrum no matter which one prefers. I have to confess that I'm perplexed as to what kind of music writing you value yourself, seeing as you object to both opinions and references to anything outside the record itself (or maybe just outside the world of indie rock?).

As for "The writer likely works in the media..." - oh no, a writer who works in the media! Personally I've always thought that writers should work down the pit and only greengrocers should work in the media... We get that you resent people who have had success in a certain field, Radiator. However in this case I think you're confusing your targets somewhat. Plan B is very much a do-it-yourself venture. Like Careless Talk Costs Lives before it, it seems to involve (as far as I can tell from a slightly removed viewpoint) a relatively small group of people investing a lot of time and even money into something that does not produce obvious financial rewards, if any. People certainly don't get paid for writing for it. So this awful "well-connected" media whore exists only in your head. But by all means, feel free to make a rational point about the pros and cons of small(er) press / self-published music journalism, if you have the urge.

Moving on, please God, to the subject of !!! v. LCD Soundsystem: as I sit here and listen to the latter's 'Yeah', I can't help but think it surpasses everything on Louden Up Now - then again, I'm getting a little sick of waiting for LCD Soundsytem to actually release an album. Often scarcer the material, the more exciting it seems, so I guess time will tell... It is interesting how similar the sound of the two bands is when compared to, say, The Rapture when produced by the DFA. The Rapture's material tends to still be quite song-based in the traditional sense - built around melodies and vocals rather than rhythm - whereas with !!! and LCD Soundsytem the rhythm and percussion are what drives the song, and the vocalists mumble and occasionally yelp rather than singing - neither of these bands would ever make a ballad, I think it's fair to say. And both have used the 303 recently...
 
 
The Natural Way
16:09 / 27.07.04
Oh, I was only taking the piss, Fly. And I was in a contrary mood. To be honest, I've never heard !!! so I really don't have much to say about them. Having said that, if anyone wants to send me a CD...... Still sometimes I do wonder at the lack of barbe-coverage Grime's received, and it's definitely been one of the sounds of the summer (along with the joyous alt-folk thing everyone's wibbling about elsewhere in the forum).

But I'm screamingly off topic, so I'll hand it back to you guys.

FIGHT!!!
 
 
The Natural Way
16:10 / 27.07.04
And I am a Pig.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
18:56 / 27.07.04
Grime is the discerning Guradian reader's music of choice.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
19:12 / 27.07.04
Having said that, if anyone wants to send me a CD...

Do you listen to cassettes, or is that too 0ld sk00l for you?
 
 
The Natural Way
20:29 / 28.07.04
Well, I don't have a tape player. It's not that tapes are down with J5 (original beats - concrete streets - frrreeesh!), just that they're shit. But, anyway, I have no permanent abode right now, Fly, so I'll probably have to wait till next week to epost you some kind of address. Until then I'll just sit around clutching my dick.

Oh, sorry, I forgot: thanks a lot, old man.

It's a shame the Guardian had to hijack Grime/Dubstep/the rest of it. There's some great stuff. Really fucking in-the-dance, ravey stuff. Forget the endless screams of "Wiiiiley! We are the Guardian and you are black and cool!"
 
 
No star here laces
05:35 / 29.07.04
Well, if anyone's primary association with grime is "The Guardian" that says far more about them and the circles they move in than it does about grime itself.

Also wondering about why barbelith doesn't talk about a style of music that's halfway between dance and hip hop and mostly listened to by working class teenagers is a bit like wondering why your granny doesn't breakdance...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:38 / 29.07.04
working class teenagers

And music bloggers who post a lot on I Love Music and like Simon Reynolds...
 
 
No star here laces
09:21 / 29.07.04
yes but in terms of sheer numbers the teenagers do rather outnumber said bloggers, hence the use of the term "mostly".

Getmeblud?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:52 / 29.07.04
I was just talking grease.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
10:23 / 29.07.04
Ahh yes - the working classes! Mysterious arbiters of taste and 'real', music! Where might a fellow find these creatures, so I may quiz them about the music of the streets?
 
 
_Boboss
11:08 / 29.07.04
on the streets, listening to the streets
 
  

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