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Fantastic Four Movie

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06:38 / 25.01.05

A trailer is up and running - early stage stuff, but enough to make it look like a fun action movie;

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantastic_four/FF_large.html

08:55 / 25.01.05

coool

09:01 / 25.01.05

especially Ben Grimm stopping that truck. I just hope this isn't an origin movie. Superhero origins need to be got out the way before the title sequence like with Hellboy.

Incidentally, is it true that Hellboy was advertised as Heckboy in parts of the bible belt?

09:48 / 25.01.05

The bits in the space station remind me of the "Lost in Space" movie. Very similar look.

Not feeling the joy, though. I really only want to see this because of 1)Superheroes and 2)Michael Chiklis.

10:22 / 25.01.05

chap in pub said yesterday the reason grimm looks so - ha! yr gunna luv this - grim is that he kinda changes throughout the course of the film, so we get classic, bumpy, spikey and smooth things inclusive.

just a shit cossie i reckon.

11:44 / 25.01.05

I liked the fact that they made the Thing look strong without straining (it used to bother me when Superman would make a grunt when he lifted a car) He is the what second strongest human hero in the Marvel Universe (after the Hulk) so flipping cars should be easy.

The truck smash looked great (even when slowed down) and Jessica Alba looks nice. I think a lot of work is still going into the others effects, as they know that Ben Grimm will sell it, and the others can be touched up later.

10:49 / 26.01.05

i reckon colossus is tougher than the thing these days. he knows kungfu anyway, could take on that green twat and the grumpy lumpy bugger no probs.

warning: the above statement could be construed as threadrot.

17:43 / 28.01.05

Okay, been avoiding this movie like Mexican Town in summer...

Just saw trailer.

...

Not really impressed with the visuals (durrr), but that track was MUCH too sexy for the "Fantastic Four". I was half expecting a quick cut to Reed and Johnny in a strip club, watching Sue shimmy her shiny.

09:28 / 23.02.05

Just saw the international trailer - not too disimilar, but the dialogue they chose to showcase was just a little bit painful. The film has fallen back down the table for me.

14:57 / 23.02.05

The whole media package has a Lost in Space thing going on for me(like warewulf mentioned above)... It looks like good pop-sexy fun, but I'm totally expecting disappointment. If the studio has to force rewrites after seeing a cartoon, well, that don't bode well. Not for my moderatley high expectations, anyway.

19:25 / 12.04.05

Lost In Space sounds just about right in nailing the apparently cheesy, trashy, trying-hard-to-be-kewl-and-slick tone that FF will most likely have.

I keep seeing previews/trailers and they just look pretty darn BAD.

Maybe the Golden Age of Marvel Comics movies (basically, Spideys 1 and 2 and X-es 1 and 2) is over... all we got now is Ghost Rider, Namor coming up, and clunkers DD and Elektra. Not sure where the Blade movies fall in that whole thing.

20:40 / 12.04.05

Except the Blade movies came out first and they were pretty good. So what you're suggesting is that we went from the Dark Age [Blade] to the Golden Age [X1, X2, Spidey's 1 & 2] but that we had another Dark Age in the middle of the Golden Age. Right.

How about we judge each film on it's own merits?

21:00 / 12.04.05

Well, of course we can't do that, Trips. We're all rotten comics geeks, and this is our fifteen minutes of vindication.

21:13 / 12.04.05

On to the topic though... Lost in Space is EXACTLY the right flavor of "meh" I was thinking as well.

Finder: Blade escapes the list of sooprhero films you mentioned because, it can be argued, that it bridges the gap between genres. Blade is very much a superhero story, but it's versus vampires. And vampire lovers tend to rally rather effectively. If that's the reason for its success, then I'm not even sure it deserves being brought up in the same context as the enormous push Marvel is getting in the film industry.

The crossing of genres is always gold - and it explains the success of the X-Men in comics and film. We all know by now that mutants are political analogs, and dramatic underdogs. Follow The Matrix with their own style of black leather -BANG! Hit.

The success of Spiderman is strange to me. Here is a SuperHero in the most iconic of views, and pretty much a direct translation of paper to film. Is it a coming of age film? Perhaps, with the emphasis on father-figures... but I've not seen Spiderman 2 to discuss it.

Now we have a list of staightforward superhero stories with predictable myths and boring fights. Daredevil - Red. Hulk - Green. Elektra - Black, sometimes Red. FF? - Blue?Who cares? There's no distinguishing reason to see these.

Incredibles is probably the best superhero film ever made, and will ever be made. For all the reasons above, AND making the big joke of skintight suits into standout character who sells the damn film in a few lines.

13:35 / 02.06.05

Big interview on the movie over at comic book resources:

this guy always wanted to make an FF movie and now he has his chance.

Although some of this guy’s plot ideas sound good (his revision of the backstory sounds decent on paper but then you see the trailer, bad dialogue, bad acting, cheesy moments, etc.) the movie itself doesn’t look to be very good .... but I have to admit, a tiny part of me is just glad that these characters are getting a treatment in the mainstream media — like with the Daredevil movie; sure the movie was pretty lame, but at least a lot more people now know who DD is. Comics continue to take over the world!

(yeah, right, I know, but it’s still fun to spread the comics meme around)

13:40 / 02.06.05

oh, and Chad, go see Spider-Man 2, you just might like it.

13:42 / 02.06.05

"Susan, let's not fight"
*blast!*
"No, LET'S"
*bigger blast!*

Guh.

16:32 / 02.06.05

Indeed. The only thing that looks remotely cool is the visual effects for the Human Torch (and his wiseass attitude; the guy playing Johnny looks like he could be good for a laugh or two).

23:32 / 02.06.05

Just as long as he takes the piss out Ben.

(Getting him to come out of his shell by the 3rd act, obv... I hope we get two contrasting 'clobberin time!'s, the last being totally joycore as Grimm gives Moleman a granite enema. During the credits).

Keith, like a scientist

03:15 / 03.06.05

every time i go see Episode III (yeah, yeah), they are playing this latest FF trailer...and it just looks horrible. Sitting there watching the trailers, my friend turned to me after the Mr & Mrs. Smith trailer, and says "that looks terrible." I turn to him after the FF one and say "this looks worse." That's pretty bad...and I sort of liked the Daredevil movie, so you know how low I can sink.

There are so many bad things about this...it's hard to pinpoint them all. There is just an overall feeling of crappiness...like they wanted to make a good movie, but didn't want to put the money into good writers or good directors. And...Doom's costume...it's worse than the horrendous foam Thing outfit.

Jessica Alba, bless her pretty heart, doesn't seem to be owning Sue at all.

of course, i'm biased cause there is no Galactus. Galactus automatically makes everything better.

17:44 / 03.06.05

Being a female cipher, can anyone really own Sue, though? She's a combination of 50's housewife and damsel in distress... Reed's tasty bit of slice from university. Or Namor's. Or Doom's. Depending on who's writing it.

Keith, like a scientist

19:14 / 03.06.05

I think someone with a bit more of a classic, elegant mom look would work better as Sue. Alba just looks likes a twelve year old playing dress up.

Brigade du jour

23:53 / 08.06.05

I'm going to make a tit of myself and say that having seen the trailer a number of times now, I'm really looking forward to this movie. I think it looks fun, cartoony, a bit silly, but sort of warm and cuddly too, although of course that's because my idea of the FF can be described quite adequately with those very adjectives!

Anyway, if it really does stink then I'll be your whipping brigade and you can all point and laugh at the poor gullible dumbo in the corner. So nerr.

21:23 / 09.06.05

I think Gwyneth Paltrow could've owned Sue and Colin Firth would've made a fantastic, um, Mr. Fantastic, but that said... I still can't see then saving this movie.

02:27 / 11.06.05

Because they're not in it?

05:09 / 11.06.05

No, cause the movie looks so bad I can't see it looking good even with them.

22:43 / 12.06.05

You know, if this movie turns out to be awful, you could always just watch The Incredibles and Dino De Laurentiis's Flash Gordon back to back. I think you'd have a pretty good simulated FF movie if only you could fuse those two together.

Brigade du jour

00:06 / 13.06.05

Doom's ALIIIIVE!!!?????

16:55 / 07.07.05

this seems just as bad as everyone thinks it will be from several reviews I've read. ah well. Apparently Chris Evans as Johnny Storm is the only thing remotely ok about it.

07:29 / 08.07.05

I have to say I'm a big Fantastic 4 fan, but I saw the trailer and it just looks utter tosh. Really, really bad.

Jack The Bodiless

10:23 / 08.07.05

It looks exactly like I imagined the Fantastic Four movie would look. Cheesy, uninspired, and a little bit dorky. You know, like the comic.

Haus of Mystery

12:54 / 08.07.05

I see no reason that a FF film couldn't be great - a nice sci-fi-romp kids movie. Maybe something along the lines of 'Galaxy Quest'. As it is, it looks like a shoddy summer 'blockbuster' where they try and make them all gritty and kewl. Yawn.

13:32 / 08.07.05

>>>Cheesy, uninspired, and a little bit dorky. You know, like the comic.<<<

I don't know what Fantastic Four comics you're referring to, but the original Lee-Kirby material is fucking phenomenal, often regarded as the benchmark of superhero comics. Even the ultra-snobbish Comics Journal sings its praises.

"Cheesy" and "dorky" I can maybe see, with Stan's goofy dialogue, but no way - NO WAY - is it "uninspired." The wealth of imagination on display from Kirby is overwhelming.

And THAT's why the movie is shit, because it's not even a fraction as creative or inspired as the comics.

14:07 / 08.07.05

Exactly, Cameron. The original Lee & Kirby run is just fantastic, everything that is great about silver age comics (I even have a soft spot for the over the top cheesy dialogue). Done correctly the film could have been excellent, but as I said it looks pretty much like Jack says.

14:59 / 08.07.05

My ideal FF movie would have been a groovy swingin-sixties pop-art period piece, with Richards-created machinery that didn't pretend to look real or practical at all, just with insane shapes and crazy Kirby squiggles all over it.

It would of course been a much harder sell - they want to make everything hip and awesome and cool and x-treem and now to appeal to the teen crowd - and would obviously cost a lot more to make, but I bet in the hands of the right director it could be pulled off spectacularly, and, crucially, be something very different to all the other superhero films of late.

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