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Bizarre experiences: my first flogging

 
  

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captain piss
10:25 / 18.06.04

So I decided to go to a fetish club last night, on my own, in Brighton, where I’ve been living for a few weeks. Walk in the door and am standing at the bar when a couple of girls come up and start talking to me. One looks a bit Kate Moss-ish and is wearing a cowboy hat and leather trousers. We start chatting and they’re asking all about me, they seem really interested. One of them says “hmm, you don’t seem like a very submissive type” or something and I’m like “well, y’know- try anything once” kind of thing, trying to chuckle through her slightly dom-ish behaviour, which I’m a bit unsure how to deal with.

They eventually say “hey- why don’t you come up on stage and we’ll tie you up on that big cross”. I’m like “noooo way”, try to tell her that I’m still feeling a bit shy and awkward- and I’ve never really tried any of that kind of thing so I’m not about to try it now, in front of a crowded club on a stage- I’m not that much of an exhibitionist. But they keep on and eventually I think “fuck it” (as I do with probably alarming regularity these days) and walk up onto the stage with them where I get strapped into this big X-shaped frame.

Anyway, next thing I know, troosers and undergarments are down – I’m surprisingly sanguine about this, given that I’m being watched by an entire club of people (and I don’t feel particularly compelled to display my arse to strangers, normally). One of the girls says “yeah- don’t worry about it. The thing about pain is you just have to concentrate on something to get through it then you get this massive endorphin rush which is really amazing”. Riiiight. Bit worried now but trying to be kind of jokey and faux-theatrical. Oh yeah and she says I can say a safe word “mercy”, if it all gets a bit much.

Anyway, ass-slapping proceeds, then riding crops and things. I occasionally go “ow” in a camp, nonchalant way, as I can’t take the whole thing seriously and I feel like I need to keep up some kind of act – I can see people looking at me (this all probably sounds quite nightmare-ish and Eyes Wide Shut but I’m seeing the funny side of things, for some reason – well, an obvious reason). It’s not too sore. Then the Kate Moss girl comes round the front and starts talking to me and tweaking my nipples, causing me to squirm as it’s really painful (and not in a good way, it doesn’t seem at the time). This all goes on a bit longer and my arse is getting whacked from all sides. Oh yeah and a guy comes round the front and starts talking to me at one point, who’s dressed like catman or something- heheh.

After a while I think it’s all getting a bit on the painful side so give my safe word. One of the girls uncuffs my wrists but then they decide to leave the stage, with my feet still all strapped in. I can see them looking up at me from the crowd and laughing – I kind of jump up and down impatiently and fumble around- it’s all potentially quite embarrassing but I try to keep an air of someone who’s finding it funny, or like it’s all an ingenious practical joke. Almost the entire club is breaking into applause at this point as I try to leap off the stage and pull up trousers in one motion. But I’m just desparate to get to the bar…

Everyone else I spoke to for the rest of night was like “yeah man, I enjoyed your show”
Anyway- that’s pretty much it. Just thought I’d share my flogging anecdote
 
 
VonKobra,Scuttling&Slithering
10:32 / 18.06.04
You like my Katsuit, ja?
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
10:33 / 18.06.04
I've got nothing that will top that.
 
 
Psi-L is working in hell
10:38 / 18.06.04
So when are you taking the show on tour?
 
 
sleazenation
10:43 / 18.06.04
I just read this at work and looked down to the book that was lying open in front of me and was faced with this

Bishop Bonner scourging Thomas Hinshaw in Fulham. Apparently the Bishop was very keen on punishing heretics himself... Flogging is in the air it seems...
 
 
illmatic
10:45 / 18.06.04
Did you have that velvet top on Meme? And what did the protagonists say to you afterward?
 
 
sleazenation
10:45 / 18.06.04
And is it an experience you'd wish to repeat?
 
 
trixr4kids
10:48 / 18.06.04
do it at the edinburgh festival .....your show sounds more entertaining than about 70% of the crap thats usually on offer..

are you going to go back for more?
 
 
illmatic
10:50 / 18.06.04
Actually re-reading it and it sounds a bit manipulative actually, especially the way they left you up on stage. Be interested to hear what others who've more experience of that scene thought of it.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:33 / 18.06.04
Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha - that is my favourite post ever.
 
 
Sax
11:45 / 18.06.04
The fact that they left you up on stage with your ankles tied up is appalling, I think.

It's put me off volunteering for an arse-slapping from a Kate Moss lookalike for life.

Although...
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:12 / 18.06.04
Yeeesh. So, they badger you into it, and then they leave you tied up, despite you having just established that you didn't want the scene to carry on any further...

These people suck.
 
 
alas
14:13 / 18.06.04
Yes, Meme, do tell us if you think this is a try anything only once or do you find yourself with secret longings to go back?
 
 
Sax
14:28 / 18.06.04
Imagine if two men had done that to a woman...
 
 
Char Aina
14:31 / 18.06.04
man, next time you do stand up you'll have so much material...


where did you go?
 
 
Cheap. Easy. Cruel.
15:42 / 18.06.04
Leaving you tied after the utterance of the safe word is incredibly bad form. I would have been a bit miffed about that. You seem to be taking the whole thing as more of a joke than anything, which is good.

I have several friends in the BDSM lifestyle. I have been flogged a time or four, and have done some flogging when it was requested. I find I am more dom than sub; but every once in a while, a sound flogging is rather nice. I don't derive any sexual pleasure from it; it is more of a stress relief thing for me. I just focus on the lash falling on my shoulders and find it relaxing. It is pretty standard to be nude, or pretty nearly so, when being flogged. I always stipulate that the flogger concentrate on my shoulders, my ass is just too sensitive.

If you ever desire a repeat, you might see if they have a shock paddle. It is a table tennis paddle looking affair, with a wire mesh stretched across the flat bit. There is a button on the handle that, when depressed, delivers a mild electric shock that some find quite stimulating.
 
 
VonKobra,Scuttling&Slithering
15:56 / 18.06.04
* behind Potted Fern taking notes *
 
 
Spaniel
16:42 / 18.06.04
Meme, I have to agree with Haus, they sound like right fucking arseholes. If it were me in your shoes (which, I hasten to add, would never happen), I'd have been tempted to twart the wankers.

Twarting the wanker - Ooh er!
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
16:44 / 18.06.04
Don't touch these people with a bargepole. Or allow them to get near you with one, ever again.

What other people have said.

I'm a BDSM'er (what a huge revelation that is, eh?) and that's dreadful behaviour.

You *do not*:
1)Pressure someone into doing something they've stated they're not up for. Being a dom is not about hassling people, it's about dominating within scene - in the time before *and* after, you're as equal as you normally would be. Unfortunately, it's not that uncommon for people on a power trip to get this wrong. Doesn't excuse it, mind.
2)Leave someone at all restrained once they've safe-worded. You get them out, and then you look after them/make sure they're ok/do what they need to be got out of subspace.
3)When someone has told you that they've not done much BDSM stuff, you tell them *exactly* what you're going to do, what it's going to involve, eg nakedness. You check things out with them. Yes, it's pretty standard, but how the hell were you supposed to know that?

IMO, People who said 'enjoyed yr show' almost certainly assumed that you knew them/had prearranged how it would go beforehand.

Because that's what any normal(hah!) dom would do, especially in a club/public situation.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
16:47 / 18.06.04
Oh, and in case I hadn't made it clear, these people are utter wankers.
 
 
40%
16:55 / 18.06.04
I think you're showing a lot of character by the way you've handled the whole thing. I'd be pretty bitter, I reckon. Not that I would agree to it, or probably even go there in the first place. I admire your try anything once attitude. And it's a good story to tell. Perhaps not to your grandkids, mind.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
17:54 / 18.06.04
Okay, I've got to say something here because everyone's talking about these girls like they're the spawn of satan and well, I do agree that they behaved unacceptably but you just got up on to a stage for a public flogging. There was no coercion, I am interested in what possessed you to put yourself in the hands of strange ladies (and while we're at it I should explain that all tales of fetish gone wrong minus blood make me scream with uncontrollable laughter hence earlier post. I suspect my sense of humour is just utterly twisted).
 
 
Tryphena Absent
17:57 / 18.06.04
And it sounds like they were on a performance high- still evil though.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:51 / 18.06.04
I'm going to have to add my voice to the chorus of "wankers!" here. You do NOT play with a novice without running them through what you plan to do, what they are comfortable with, ect, and you definately definately definately do NOT bloody leave someone tied up after they've safeworded. BDSM can be a rich and rewarding part of one's life, but it can also be psychological and emotional dynamite.
 
 
captain piss
18:54 / 18.06.04
The bizarre truth is that i probably would go back for a bit more, but maybe not from them, as they were a bit scary. Hmm- probably stepping on the sensibilities of seasoned BDSM-ers here but it probably is the kind of thing that works best with a bit of fear and uncertainty thrown into the mix. Or maybe i'm just quite a strange fucker - i don't suppose it matters, as long as you don't
get into a situation where something genuinely bad could happen. The only thing that still worries me slightly is that the whole thing was being filmed, apparently by some girl who's quite a well-known film maker, according to a guy i spoke to in the bog. So hopefully my mum won't be seeing me on Eurotrash or some Channel 5 dodginess

Yeah, lots of people seemed surprised that it wasn't some prearranged thing. The girls in question were just really kind of dom-ish and weird with me, and i don't really know how to respond to that.

But yeah...really appreciate the friendly advice and concern. Hmm, maybe i ought to have a word with one or two of the wiser souls here before embarking on any other such shenanigans in future
 
 
the cat's iao
18:56 / 18.06.04
"There was no coercion..."

Um, meme said, "They eventually say 'hey- why don’t you come up on stage and we’ll tie you up on that big cross'. I’m like 'noooo way', try to tell her that I’m still feeling a bit shy and awkward- and I’ve never really tried any of that kind of thing so I’m not about to try it now, in front of a crowded club on a stage- I’m not that much of an exhibitionist. But they keep on and eventually I think 'fuck it'"

Sounds somewhat like coercion to me.

As some people have already said, it sorta' sounds like you were taken advantage of here meme. I mean, I sorta' see the scene as these two likely being regulars in the club, and they think, "Hey, who's the new guy?" And then one thing leads to another and they "get off" on giving you a bit of public humiliation (I think the part of leaving your ankles tied neatly demonstrates the intent). The beauty of it is that you've taken this with a remarkable sense of humour. But still, I add my vote for these two girls being manipulative & out of line.
 
 
the cat's iao
18:59 / 18.06.04
It was filmed!?!?!?

Um, this only gets worse & worse, IMO.

(sorry for the double post, missed the last two posts when composing mine)
 
 
Cheap. Easy. Cruel.
19:06 / 18.06.04
Oh god. It was filmed. Well, scratch running for public office.

If you go back to the same club, you might hang back and talk with some of the regulars and get a feel for the whole thing a little more. Find someone you trust to be your dom. It makes the experience much more enjoyable.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
19:17 / 18.06.04
Meme mate, I take my hat off to you for yr response to this, I really do. But I want to respond to something y've said, not taking issue with yr own preferences but perhaps because this is a public discussion on BDSM and I think some stuff needs maknig a bit clearer:


Hmm- probably stepping on the sensibilities of seasoned BDSM-ers here but it probably is the kind of thing that works best with a bit of fear and uncertainty thrown into the mix.

Indeed it may. If I know *exactly* what someone's going to do, second-by-second, then perhaps alot of the anticipatory energy is lost. I say perhaps because there are plenty of people/situations where/for whom knowing this adds to it. Takes all sorts.

Buuuuuut, even if you want to know as little as possible, you are putting yourself in the hands of someone else. So they and you need to look after yourselves and each other. There's a middle ground.

You can let me know roughly what yr gonna do to me without giving away too much of the specifics.

And if you know I'm a novice, and yr (presumably) more experienced, you err on the side of caution. Always.

As: erring on the side of caution and overdoing it= worst that can happen is I don't have quite as edgy and exciting time as I'd hope for. I can always have another go, having learnt something about my limits/desires.

erring on the other side=worst=me being hurt/abused/terrified/put in a situation i can't get out of.

As Mordant says, this stuff is powerful and can be dangerous. That's half the appeal.

But you wouldn't go rock climbing for the first(or second or fifth) time without a harness, would you, just because it's more thrilling that way?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
19:23 / 18.06.04
Oh, and on a more 'personal advice' point: be careful of yrself in future adventures as you could
get into a situation where something genuinely bad could happen
without realising it.

Which is not to say that people don't take risks, or I'm talking from a position of perfection here.

I'm not, I'm just talking as someone who's done alot of this stuff. Made mistakes, learnt from 'em etc etc...
 
 
The Natural Way
20:35 / 18.06.04
That's one of the funniest fucking stories I've ever heard.

Meme, you are fucking cool.

But, yes: TWARTS.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:16 / 18.06.04
What pretty much everyone else has said, really.
 
 
Lurid Archive
21:21 / 18.06.04
meme, I totally get your response in enjoying the fear and uncertainty. Your response was about as positive as it possibly could have been, and I have a lot of respect for you keeping it together. The point is, they had no way of knowing that and I can well imagine that a novice would freak. Thats where they fucked up and the fact that it turned out ok was down to you, not them.
 
 
The Natural Way
21:53 / 18.06.04
Bengali, you should just change yr name to The Romance".
 
 
The Natural Way
21:54 / 18.06.04
Or The Romanche
 
  

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