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Spaniel
11:17 / 11.06.04
Whorecard

Nice
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
11:21 / 11.06.04
Hot Brunette Accountant
Anal
Unrushed
Parties Catered To
No Double Entries
Call Gordon
0800 Brown
 
 
Spaniel
11:42 / 11.06.04
Yes, now I see - whorecard really is the best possible description.
 
 
ephemerat
11:42 / 11.06.04
Two things spring to mind: why did he need to take speed at work, and what kind of workforce turns a blind eye to physical violence in the workplace?

I assume you've never worked in a nightclub either, then?
 
 
Spaniel
12:04 / 11.06.04
I'm being a little disingenuous. I understand why he took speed at work:

A. He was young
B. He liked drugs - lots of drugs
C. His work-culture subscribed to the "work hard, play hard" ethos.
D. He worked horrific shifts.

I suppose I was trying articulate my inability to empathise with the culture of the kitchen. Sounds like the kind of job I'd absolutely hate, hate, hate.

Also, on the matter of workplace violence. I wasn't suggesting that violence towards colleagues/subordinates is exclusive to the catering trade. Nasty and unforgivable where ever.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
13:06 / 11.06.04
current job is journalist: assistant editor on a architecture/design/construction B2B mag - really good fun:

Get to write monthly editorial with a pic of me in a suit next to all my chat.
Get to cover conferences where lots of talented famous architects and designers gather Get to research and write original news stories (front page this month: 'Architects fight back against critical school report: Teachers are told: 'PPP not the issue')
Get to visit massive steel yards like the one Arnie melted in at end of T2
Get to go down the docks and stand on top of a ship's bridge and look down into the cargo hold and watch as steel sections (made in the T2 yard) are lowered in so they can be shippped to Dubai and erected into a Formula One stand in order to attract grand Prix investors to the place.
Get to visit sandstone quarries and see strata of rock millions of years old, be 'civilised' into cubic blocks for use in the construction of buildings and bridges.
Get to hold a medal given by Saddam in my own left paw - it belonged to a Scottish contractor who'd recently set up shop in Kabul and Baghdad.
Get to shoot the bull with architects and designers in the course of interviwing them - it's cool talking about things you are interested in and actually realise its your job.
Don't have to sit in a drawing office anymore and draw hardline pics of toilets, drains and lifts.
Get to travel all over Scotland by train - I enjoy this too, Boboss.
Get to wank in hotels occasionally.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
13:56 / 11.06.04
dude, I'm not meme buggerer.

but I know the cunt.

nah, I work for a title with a name more suited to a caledonian eugenic programme:

It's called:

PROJECT SCOTLAND

ye can only score it if you're a pro in architecture, civils, qs or if you are a contractor.
 
 
Spaniel
14:39 / 11.06.04
Get to wank in hotels occasionally.

So Ballardian it makes me want to cry.

Met Meme Buggerer at last weekend - went out for a few jars. Good chap. Hope to see him soon.
 
 
No star here laces
14:47 / 11.06.04
Best is if you can order up some porn and then charge it on expenses. I do like doing that...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:55 / 11.06.04
I've got to get out of here before the pure testosterone in the atmosphere gives me an instant sex change.
 
 
VonKobra,Scuttling&Slithering
16:07 / 11.06.04
I've had steel pans thrown at my head. I've threatened to take my superior out to the carpark and beat the life out of him. I've used in the work toilet, sold in the walk-in fridge.

It's awful, and no-one should have to put up with what we do. Honestly. You say it sounds like a fucked job, mate? You're right.

But I knew this going in. It just seemed a bit more glamorous back then. If I caught an Apprentice snorting in the Kitchen, I'd sack him on the spot. Of course it's incredibly hypocritical, but that's my job. If there are any other Hospitality workers in here, they'll understand what I'm saying when I say we're all Actors in this business. We basically take the line of "if it doesn't affect your work, and you keep it out of my sight, you can do whatever the fuck you want." It's all about being discreet. Cross that line, and you're fucked.

But yeah, when I'm getting high so I can actually DO my job, there's something Very Wrong.

And I would dissuade any youngsters from taking up the Knife. Honestly. Unless you have a Personality Disorder.
 
 
grant
16:45 / 11.06.04
I used to be a dishwasher.

I like doing what I do now better.
 
 
Spaniel
16:59 / 11.06.04
taking up the Knife

Lol.
 
 
Busigoth
17:02 / 11.06.04
Editorial consultant at a med school in the Big Easy. Theoretically, I'm supposed to support the physicians in their research & writing; however, no one is doing much of that at the moment, so I'm improving my Minesweeping skills. Perks: nice, intelligent people; occasional free lunches (only had to buy lunch once this week); & free medication. The last two are helpful as the pay isn't that good.
 
 
■
18:20 / 11.06.04
Almost ex-bookseller. Corporate whoredom was beckoning, so I had to leave. Decided to do a journalism course, which I have finished aside from the Comics Journalism dissertation.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
18:40 / 11.06.04
I've used in the work toilet, sold in the walk-in fridge.

Hah ha! Holy shit, it does happen in every restaraunt, just like my boss said! Sweet.

Seriously, though, the physical damage from being a chef doesn't sound like much compared with the damage done to one's very soul whilst serving, on or off whatever drugs are around that day.
 
 
No star here laces
18:54 / 11.06.04
The Gandy Dancers take up the knife on the permanent way
 
 
Sax
19:36 / 11.06.04
I pretty much like my job. No, actually, I love my job. I hate getting bogged down in management stuff sometimes, but the actual job of journalism is pretty cool.

Besides, I can't actually do anything else.

**As the post-apocalyptic fog clears and humanity starts to rebuild itself, people are asked what they can contribute. The builders and chefs and doctors step forward. Sax says: "Well, I could write about what you're all doing..."**
 
 
spake
21:43 / 11.06.04
I hate my job. I work for the local city council as a research librarian. Which basically means i provide research and information to lazy councilors and staff, but also to the general public. Its dead boring, but only because over the past few years we've been losing our local community to the internet and tv. The statistics reflecting this shit are depressing. This country is pretty much breeding a slave-race for factory work.

The upside is, that without customers i've had more time to surf the net on our broadband hookup. Yesterday i managed to surf the net for close to 7 hours, and only spent 1/2 an hour doing actual work. This is pretty cool when you consider some of the databases we subscribe to.

For kicks me and another staff member go through the council fleet of vehicles tuning the radios to heavy metal rock stations, and turn the volume up high. At last count there were 74 vehicles. I suspect that we wont be working there for much longer.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
22:57 / 11.06.04
I lurve my current job, which is working in the Press & Marketing department of the Science Museum. Not only is the Science Museum basically the coolest place in London, all the people in the office are pretty much young and funky, I can dress down a bit if I like, and once I've finished the (admittedly boring) task of updating a list of five hundred press contacts I'm hoping to copy and use it for my own nefarious purposes. Ahem.

ALSO I get a fantastic thingy called a cryptag which lets me go anywhere I want in the Museum, and lets me in free to any major museum or gallery in London. My cultural life just got both richer and cheaper.

They have unpoliced broadband, which means I can check my email without having to walk 20 mins to the nearest internet cafe, and the local area (South Kensington) is posh enough to be nice, but not prohibitively expensive (cf Green Park, Knightsbridge.

Other cool jobs I've had: working as a waitress in a cocktail bar (we used to do tequila shots behind the bar on really busy nights), working for Tiffany's, working for the Knights of Malta, a few fun acting jobs.

Shit jobs I've had: working for a psychotic fashion PR called Phyllis Walters, churning out puff features about servers, electronic tills and "middleware", data entry for Rover. I used to sleep under my desk for several hours at a time when working for Rover, mind, so I suppose the lack of supervision made up for the mind-numbing tedium of the actual work.
 
 
Mike Modular
00:38 / 12.06.04
Freelance sound engineer/designer in theatre. It's pretty good. Get to travel abroad sometimes and otherwise work in London, mostly at the Royal Court.

Yes, I do see famous people all the time, but it's more exciting when I get to work with the minor stars that actually impress me (like Ed Bishop off UFO and Porkins from Star Wars...)

The money's shit but, hey, I make noises and get to lie-in most days so I can't really complain too much...
 
 
bio k9
02:43 / 12.06.04
I'm shocked by the whole slapping in the kitchen thing. How the hell do you let someone slap you in a room full of cutlery? Chefs are fucking tough!
 
 
Sax
20:44 / 12.06.04
Oh my God, Whisky, you used to work for Phyllis Walters? I have to deal with that agency all the time (don't know if you had to do this, but they put their fashion pix on a website called PR shots, and every time you want one you have to contact them for the password. Really annoying).
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
21:56 / 12.06.04
You're a big liar.

As Olulabelle, in her guise as "the man" cruelly and brutally points out, I'm not actually a professional wrestler, although it feels like it sometimes.

I work as a production editor for a B2B mag. Page layout, sub-editing, headlines, captions, standfirsts, picture research, commissioning illustrators, that sort of thing. It's alright. It earns reasonable money and utilises my writing and visual skills to some extent, without leaving me feeling too crushed and unwilling to engage with my own creative stuff when I'm done. Which is what I want.

I sometimes question if I'm in the right section of the industry when I see all the journalists and editorial staff get taken to best restaurants in London, enjoy ridiculously long lunch breaks, eat fine food and drink terrifyingly expensive wine... but I console myself in the belief that if I took that road and used the writing skills as the dayjob, I would never be bothered to spend my evenings working on my own stuff. And ultimately, that's where my heart is.
 
 
My Mom Thinks I'm Cool
13:24 / 13.06.04
Just moved to New York and the only job I've been able to get is a courier. Like a bike messenger only I don't have a bike. I make about $4 an hour and I'm going to starve to death in approximately 2 months if I don't get something better. Who knew that a degree in computer engineering would make me unemployable?

Still, in the short time I've been here, my job has forced me to learn the subway better than most natives, I've lost about 20 pounds, and seen most of the city. Unfortunately I've seen it during the day when it's all sidewalks and traffic and jerks in business suits. I'm still waiting for a really weird job to come up, like delivering something to somebody's rock in central park, or having to pick up a komodo dragon from the airport. Most packages seem to be photos of models, or clothes for models.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
09:02 / 14.06.04
hmm. Suspect I'm in a pretty different situation to most people.

'Job' no.1: being too sick to work. That's what puts a roof over my head and money in my pocket.

good: I seem to be a natural at it and I don't have any of the stresses of working that almost everyone else does, I have a very easy life in many ways. I get to pretty much do as I please.

bad: the money's pitiful, can be isolating, the effect on the self-esteem isn't great, and it's going to scary and weird getting back into the working world. Being constantly skint is *exhausting*

Job no.2: cleaning.
good: it nets me some cash, is extremely flexible, the people I work for are lovely.

bad: it's cleaning. boring, brainless and the thought: 'I can only just about hold down a cleaning job' is not a cheering one.

'Job' no.3: work in mental health as a drop-in worker.
good: I love it. It's fascinating, rewarding, caters to my low boredom threshold by always keeping me on my toes, as a volunteer I pretty much choose when I work, colleagues are ace, I'm really valued and I know I'm damn good at it.
bad: it doesn't pay anything. But I suspect I won't enjoy it as much when it's my proper job!

'job' no.4: review art shows for a website.
Good: has got me seeing and thinking critically about vis.art again, enjoy the writing process and am discovering(as an ex-proto-art hack) I really enjoy writing about art for a generalist audience, pays expenses so gives me opportunity to see friends in other cities. Oh, and (see happy thread) I'm getting my writing-to-deadline skills back and I think I'm improving loads, which is really satisfying. It's useful experience and might even be something I follow up semi-professionally.
bad: hmmm, nothing really right now. Can't be paid for work so it's ideal really.

'Job' no 5: doing occasional research for revise365, a group campaigning for BDSM to be removed from DSMV mental health diagnoses.
good: it's interesting, am in contact with new and interesting, I enjoy the research process, feel I'm contributing to something significant.
bad: hmm, not much, again.

Conclusion: I seem to be incapable of enjoying any job I'm paid to do but am doing lots of interesting stuff.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
09:42 / 14.06.04
oh, and I've done silver service waitressing in poshy hotels, so have seen all of kitchen life I ever want to see.

I *hated* it. Stressful, boring, getting yelled at constantly, turned me from an occasional to chainsmoker after one shift, went home crying at least once, went home wanting to kill several times. Bollocks macho working culture. Saw a chef throw an iron frying pan at an underling and knock him out cold. People dragged him to the smoking room and threw water in his face.

But has taught me to treat waiting staff well, as a - it's a bloody hard job and I respect those who can do it and b- I don't want to eat 'fresh-off-the-floor fillet steak'
 
 
Lea-side
21:58 / 14.06.04
my first job out of college was processing, inputing and sending to the judge divorce petitions. i was 17. i have no idea how i managed to land that job. i suspect it was my new blue/silver tonic mod-suit that swung it...between then and now, i worked for a small independant record label; was a DJ in a shite indie club (got me laid, didnt pay for shit); was a hospital porter, carrying limbs and bloody clothes to the incenerator; was a fly posterer; done loads of bad, soul destroying telesales; worked in bad pubs, good pubs, lots of pubs; did the old silver service at various hotels; worked in a seaside gift shop; a 1 hour photo lab; and now i work as a cinema usher. so yeah, surprisingly enough, i am also a struggling musician, funding his bands with a succesion of shit jobs. ha! oh well.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
22:59 / 14.06.04
Hey catering people, want to come work for my shiny new concept restaurant:

'relaxed silver service'

Where the service is slow but the s`taff aren't maniacs....
 
 
moriarty
04:46 / 15.06.04
I used to be a dishwasher.

Dishpigs rule.

I'm an animator for a children's show. A local studio was hiring in my last semester of college, and I applied just for the experience of being interviewed. My footage was atrocious and I had very little computer experience, so I didn't think I would be hired. Happily, they recognized that my timing and acting were good.

It's the best job I've ever had. Like most anybody, I have a few gripes. The pay is the lowest you can get in animation. The reason they hired a bunch of students was because most of their experienced animators jumped ship for better-paying work. Now that the budget has increased for the second season, those animators might be coming back leaving a few of us without jobs. I'm a very slow, meticulous animator, and though they appreciate the quality I put in, my numbers were very low so I may not be back. I had to work 70+ hour weeks for the last while to keep up. Also, they threw a lot of very difficult scenes my way, which didn't help. I'm paid by the amount of footage I do, so being known as a quality guy isn't necessarily to my benefit. If I make it to the second sesason, I'll finally be able to make a livable wage (and then some) without having a breakdown.

As for advantages, I can wear what I want to work, take breaks whenever I like, and watch all the bootlegged anime I can handle. I get to make drawings come to life, which still amuses me. We're one of the only television animation studios in North America that doesn't outsource to other countries, so all the animation in my scenes is by me alone, good or bad. I've animated basketball games, monsters rampaging through cities, characters smacking their faces into solid objects, and all sorts of fun stuff. I once animated a character nearly puking, then swallowing the puke. It wasn't in the storyboards, but I added a minor pre-pre-puke, which earned my scene the title "The Citizen Kane of Near-Puke Scenes".

So, yeah, fun stuff.
 
 
Ganesh
10:29 / 15.06.04
[wankshaft] It's not a job; it's a profession. [/wankshaft]

I'm feeling pretty sanguine about my job these days. Barbeloids with truly lo-o-ong memories (and I'm talking six, seven years ago) may recall the majorly angsty career crisis of my mid-to-late 20s: I'm someone who drifted into Medicine, passed the exams (eventually) almost despite myself, got my postgraduate membership of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and suddenly thought, "wooah, this is all going too fast; dunno if I like this". I took two years out in a 'career lay-by' post, before deciding the positives outweighed the negatives, getting back on the ladder and moving to London.

I'm glad I did. Admittedly it's partly to do with my being at a level where I enjoy autonomy without too much responsibility, and almost no drudgery, but I enjoy being a psychiatrist in London much more than I enjoyed being a psychiatrist in Scotland. Which is weird, considering the mental health services are better funded Oop North, and Edinburgh was awash with apocalyptic tales of suicidal junior doctors running themselves ragged looking after claustrophobic, Bedlamesque hospital wards crammed to the gills with scarily violent, knife-wielding West Indian crackheads, all held against their will under the Mental Health Act. While it'd be wrong to say there's no truth to the stereotype, it certainly ain't the whole story. Or perhaps it's just that I'm no longer a junior doctor...

So... although I'm a lot less ambivalent, there are still days when I wonder why I didn't go to Art School instead (and then I remember: a) lack of ability to self-motivate, and b) money) and there are days when I feel completely fucked off with the 'research culture' (the majority of clinicians have little or no genuine interest in pushing back the boundaries of medical science - just being a half-decent doctor - but there's enormous peer-pressure to produce crappy research solely to enhance one's CV). On a good day, however, it's like Xoc said: you really feel like you've made a meaningful connection, helped someone out. It doesn't happen as often as I'd like, but I guess it happens just about enough.

Apart from that, there're all the fringe benefits: the poisoned chalice of drug company freebies (I've enjoyed all-expenses trips to conferences in Moscow and Antwerp, and have just been offered Atlanta - but accept too many and your credibility suffers); the variety, in London, of possible career paths (I could go on to specialise in all manner of weird and wonderful minority areas, within or without the NHS); the interesting people (colleagues, patients, relatives); being treated very marginally more courteously because you've got 'Dr' on all your paperwork.

On the downside: my mother expecting me to entertain her friends with "funny stories" about amusingly mad people; occasionally being cornered by earnest-but-boring individuals who decide I am, by virtue of my job, a Good Listener (hint: I'm not); being unable to watch ER without wanting to scream 'FUCKING FUCKING ARSEFUCKERY!' when they wheel out their stock two psychiatric tropes: Dangerous Psychotic and Comedy Psychotic. And, in HMV, wanting to open the DVD cases for Me, Myself and Irene and replace the discs with one's own gently-steaming turds.

*breathe... breathe... breathe...*

Oh yeah, and shagging nurses. Worked for me.
 
 
VonKobra,Scuttling&Slithering
11:52 / 15.06.04
Bengali: Absolutely.

My front of house staff are vital. If they're experienced, I treat them as equals. If a part timer also with experience, I usually treat them as my little buddies. And the schoolkids? Ah well, someone has to teach them how to be insane and get a thick skin.

I was taught by fucking assholes. It's the Chef tradition. That whole macho bullshit scene. Work yourself to death and fume angrily at everyone with one hand up a Waitresses skirt and another on a bottle of Claret.

Some of those guys are Master Foodies, and Artistes.

The majority should be shot.

In my time as a Chef, my one abiding tenet has been NOT TO END UP LIKE THE FUCKERS THAT TAUGHT ME.

You don't need to bully people into submission. Being an arrogant Ogre does not a Great Chef make. I always saw my Brigade and the FOH as a Team. And we cannot function without each other. If I was to be remembered for anything by my apprentices it would be that I was a fucking insane Junkie Punk weirdo who could be approached by ANYONE with a problem. And I love my kids... I love teaching them that there are hard decisions and attitudes you simply must cultivate. But that they have to retain their Humanity and try and treat each other and the other staff as People, not Subhumans.

I do not get angry in front of the other Staff. I walk outside if I'm about to blow, and do it where no-one can see me. Sorry, I wouldn't be a Chef if I didn't drop a Double-Entendre in there.

The Old School Ways make for the best food.

But they make for the worst people.

I would like to hope that some of us are trying a little harder to change the face of our profession.

Oh - the most valuable member of my Team is Alex, the Dishpig. She is my backbone, the woman is a fucking Brick. A good Kitchenhand is worth her weight in Gold.
 
 
Smoothly
11:59 / 15.06.04
Johnny, you are Anthony Bourdain and I claim my Saturday Special.
 
 
illmatic
12:39 / 15.06.04
Johnny, so you'll be looking for work with Gordon Ramsey then?
 
 
VonKobra,Scuttling&Slithering
13:10 / 15.06.04
Yeah I heard something about Vic Reeves asking Ramsay for Fried Eggs??

FNAAAR FNAAARRR

SNAAARRKK SNNAAARRKK

Ramsay's a talented bugger though, there's no denying. But it's a cycle of abuse. And the guy just propagates the seeds of EvilGravy. We have to remember he's just as much a product of his environment.

Bourdain, of course, is my Hero.

I do hate cooking. I really do.

But sometimes I wonder how I'll cope NOT being in a Kitchen.

And you know that I'm travelling to London soon?

I'm fucking WETTING myself just thinking of seeing places like the River Cafe. Places I've only ever seen in Cookbooks.

The eternal dilemma.

*sharpens knife*
 
  

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