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Censorship Among Occult Practicioners

 
  

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ONLY NICE THINGS
18:09 / 07.10.07
I do rather wish people would not use lynching as metaphor for, for example, "being criticised" or "being excluded from an Internet message board".

cusm:
What we will tolerate here will have different lines, and I am happy to support them.

I think the issue here is that you don't seem to entirely "get" or agree with those lines - so, are you undertaking to attempt to think yourself into the mindset of somebody who is oversensitive about anti-Semitism, and then behave accordingly, or only ever to vote with the majority on any discussion about banning somebody for what is perceived as anti-Semitism or other hate speech? I'm not concerned particularly about your views as a person, at least here, but rather your fitness, along with others in this thread, to be a moderator, and specifically a moderator with the power to veto bans, either in the Temple or across the board, if and when that bug gets fixed. Likewise charrelz and life critic, and _ _ _, if he has not in fact burned his suit.

Arguably, of course, we could just agree that the banning system as it stands is a bit broken anyway, so we should just carry on flagging concerns to Tom - in practical terms, it looks like that is likely to happen a fair bit, unless we can find a contribution from somebody on a well-modded forum, in particular with the Temple, and possibly in particular in particular with anti-Semites in the Temple, since there are not very many moderators and those who are may not be very good at detecting hateful speech against races or religions, say, or may not find it cause for banning.

As it stands, I think we have a broad agreement that the duties and expectations of a web host or ISP are different from those of an online community, and the lessons learned from applying those of one should not be taken to another. So, yes, the pair.com definition of hate speech is not really applicable here. We could consider it, but it's not applied and never has been.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:16 / 07.10.07
I do rather wish people would not use lynching as metaphor for, for example, "being criticised" or "being excluded from an Internet message board".

(I'm also starting to wish I'd never brought up the "puppy training" metaphor. Calls to kill the puppy upset me, even if what they represent is something I agree with).
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
21:34 / 07.10.07
Lynching is when people abduct you, assault you physically, and put you to death in a horrific manner, without trial and often without your having committed any crime. Banning is when you can't write words in one bit of the internet any more and have to go and find other bits of internet to write on. The difference is subtle, I know, but it can be discerned with a sufficiently close inspection.

The Fetch wasn't lynched. He's still out there. He's still posting his crap in spaces that are more accepting of his IJC bollocks. He's even got a blog (I recommend not Googling it, it'll make your eyes bleed). I fail to see how being excluded from a space where you're automatically going to piss off most of the other posters is such a huge hardship. Most people voluntarily avoid spaces where they're likely to be at odds with everyone else.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:39 / 07.10.07
(Not sure if you thought I was disagreeing with Haus there, Auntie- I wasn't).
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
21:41 / 07.10.07
No dude, just a generalised rant.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:44 / 07.10.07
'scool. I reread my post and thought it might have looked like I was doing a reductio ad absurdam (or whatever) thing, which I wasn't intending to.
 
  

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