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Sax
05:54 / 22.04.04
Okay, from the "Hoots mon, Ariadne's going to Scotland" thread I know I'm not alone in loving this programme. Young people with strangely huge amounts of money are helped by the wonderful Kirsty Allsop and Phil Spencer to buy new properties somewhere else in the country.

Kirsty's a lovely, be-pearled, rather school-marmish woman with a big phone while Phil is a tall, bald, suit-but-no-tie HOTTIE.

I love them both, and want to buy a big house with a cellar so I can keep them in there.

Also, there's this exquisite little debate going on elsewhere on the internet, comparing the relative delights of our Kirsty and the tightly-bloused Sarah Beeny, who helps people sell houses rather than buy them - the Anti-Kirsty, if you will.

So. Last night's programme. A repeat, but a good one - why did that couple go to all the trouble and expense of having Kirsty and Phil troll round villages looking for a house for them when they ultimately went off on their own and bought something that perfectly fit the bill of what they expressly said they DIDN'T want, plus was 30 grand over budget?
 
 
Slow Monday
07:32 / 22.04.04
Fall back kirstie lovers.

Beeny rules the world of property totty.

Has anyoe thought that Phil looks like an ageing Will Young?
 
 
Ganesh
08:16 / 22.04.04
Bollocks. Beeny's far too whiny: it's impossible to watch her programme without getting increasingly irritated by her distinctly 'me-me-meeee' cataloguing of the many subsidiary mistakes the hapless house-sellers have made - all stemming, naturally, from the fundamental error of Not Paying Enough Attention To Sarah Beeny's Wise Words (Mate). And then, when - wonder of wonders! - the durr-brained developers actually do manage to make a reasonable profit (as they nearly always do), being extreeemely grudging with the credit (They Were Lucky; If They'd Listened To Me, They'd Have Made Seven Hundred Billion More).

Kirsty, on the other hand, is a vision of dumpy, be-pearled, cocktail-frocked loveliness - beautifully offsetting the oddly-reticent Phil. In Heat interviews (yes, what of it?), Kirsty frequently teases Phil by claiming he's a 'gay icon' - which is probably going a little far. I quite liked the suit-and-no-tie thing in the first series, though, and, in the second, he's relaxed into Dress-Down Friday smart-casual - which hints at the gym-pumped physique that doubtless throbs beneath... The Will Young-esque jaw bothers me slightly, but is only really a problem from certain angles.

The programme itself, with its annoyingly wealthy thirty (and even twenty)somethings, tends to pluck my envy strings - particularly when the wannabe pot-glazers (or whatever leisurely 'occupation' they've set themselves) are asked if they can stretch "a little" over budget, and somehow find thirty, forty extra grand down the back of the settee. Their concept of 'budget' is clearly different from mine.

Mind you, I may be bitter and twisted because I am currently languishing in the deeper circles of the English property market (which is markedly crappier than its relatively sensible Scottish counterpart)...
 
 
Sax
08:41 / 22.04.04
I agree. Beeny just pushes her breasts (enveloped in too-small blouses) against big brickies and says: "Yes, they have made £40,000 profit, but to be honest that's due to the improving market rather than the fact they've worked their fingers to the blood-smeared bone for ten hours a day as well as holding down full-time jobs."
 
 
Ganesh
10:04 / 22.04.04
I quite like Kirsty's schadenfreude-tinged Property Chain solo effort, but she cuts a rather lonely figure without her simian-jawed besuited baldie sidekick.
 
 
Sax
10:40 / 22.04.04
Yeah, that didn't last very long, did it? And she wore the same outfit in every one - black A-line pleated skirt, black short-sleeved blouse, red shoes, string of pearls. There was a finer grade of idiot in that show than in Location, as well.
 
 
Ganesh
10:51 / 22.04.04
Didn't like her hair in Property Chain, though.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:43 / 22.04.04
Yes! I have become hooked. You're so right about so many things, but especially re: that other woman on that other show who always says "They ignored my advice and still did really well, BUT..." (I will kill her, with my fists, although only after I kill the guy who helps people make their houses sellable by patronising them horribly: I've seen this just once, but he told a woman that her daughter's room "looks like a teenager's bedroom, which won't attract young urban professionals" - Anna de L and I agree that almost every young urban professional we know has a bedroom which looks EXACTLY like that of a teenager.)

Oh, and the envy. The horrible envy. Although whenever Phil & Kirsty do that "we all love the bustle of city life, but also kinda hate it - there is another way!" bit at the beginning (ie, pretty much every episode), I usually find myself thinking "but I don't hate it at all... aren't people who don't like London weirdies."

There is something oddly attractive about Kirsty - I think I only really noticed it when she was on Have I Got News For You - last night it really came across because she was contrasted with the awful, awful female half of the couple, who resembled an awful cross between Joely Richardson, my father's current wife and the unlovely Debbie McGee... an unholy trilogy. You could tell that she was constantly thinking "hmm, Kirsty really should lose some wait" - EVIL. And the fact that they were clearly never going to take a house somebody else had found for them: I loved it at the end when you could tell Phil & Kirsty were going "mmmmm... MOKAY, loserz!" It's better when the people really love all the houses shown to them and it's all heartwarming and shit.

Am I the only one who keeps expecting Phil's speech impediment to overpower him in the middle of sentences so that he loses the ability to form words completely? Cruel but true. I also love the way it's usually Phil who sods off back to London half-way through the programme - "right, that's enough time in the country, I'm off down the Dog & Cockney in Brixton!" - no seriously, I reckon he spends 10am-11am flat-hunting and the rest of the day in the pub when he does that. He always looks so pleased to be back inside the M25.
 
 
Sax
13:03 / 22.04.04


"Well, if we want three bedrooms, a big enough garden for your Aberdeen Angus and a dungeon with enough room for Miriam to strap Dirk to the wall and flagellate him with her favourite full-length whip, we're not looking at much change back from two hundred grand."
 
 
Ganesh
13:18 / 22.04.04
See, Phil looks okay from that angle - but in his eyes you can see the self-esteem-gnawing awareness that, if he smiles with his mouth open - particularly in three-quarter profile - his mandible appears as if it could detach, snake-like, to allow him to swallow whole objects the size of his head.
 
 
Sax
13:36 / 22.04.04
Yes. He runs his mouth as a separate house removals business.
 
 
Ganesh
13:43 / 22.04.04
Canvassing my own office (which, being a community-based dual mental health and social work centre, is lesbigay-heavy) reveals an almost overwhelmingly Kirsty-centric vote - on the grounds that she looks (and this is a big winner with the dykes) "really dirty".
 
 
Sax
13:46 / 22.04.04
God, if I'd said that we'd never have heard the last of it.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:16 / 22.04.04
The mental-health lesbigays are in no sense mistaken, it has to be said.

Sax, are the words you've put into Phil's mouth a deliberate reflection of the fact that in the couples they deal with, wifey normally has the whip-hand?
 
 
Spaniel
14:50 / 22.04.04
On Sarah Beeny's sneering: So they make a profit, so what? Perhaps they could make more money if they'd pay attention to the millionnaire property developer offering free advice. Let's bear in mind that she's actually trying to help the ungrateful twats.

Fuck 'em, I say.
 
 
Slow Monday
15:40 / 22.04.04
All Hail Beeny
 
 
Ganesh
15:54 / 22.04.04
On Sarah Beeny's sneering

It's not sneering, exactly. It's more akin to me telling someone "well, if you don't start taking an antidepressant, you'll become suicidal and kill yourself" then, when they eschew antidepressants yet nonetheless become the happiest hapsters in Hapsburg, insisting "yeah, but if you'd listened to me, you'd have been even happier".

Beenie's a meenie, whatever she does to your weenie.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
18:31 / 22.04.04
Kirstie is my idol, she wears solid colours, clearly eats food and has the best voice ever.

I couldn't believe that flat in Oval they turned down on last nights show, it was scrumptious and had good windows. That couple were strangulatable.

Now here's a bad picture of my idol and the lovely Phil...

 
 
Spaniel
10:09 / 23.04.04
Beeny does nothing to my weeny.

But she could help them make more money, so they should bloody lissen. Bunch of pillocks. Anyway, most of them only made money because the housing market went up, or some such.

Besides, her head-shaking and sombre judgementalism adds drama.

In our house we believe Kirsty and Phil to be secret lovers. It is very erotic.
 
 
Sax
10:12 / 23.04.04
It would be lovely if Kirstie and Phil got together. Not for Phil's wife, obviously, but if it's what the viewers want...
 
 
Sax
10:14 / 23.04.04


That blouse is far too tight.
 
 
Sax
10:17 / 23.04.04


Hmmm. What kind of secret conversation is going on here? And where's Phil's phone? Has his detachable mandible swallowed it?
 
 
Sax
10:20 / 23.04.04
Although, if we're talking really posh property totty (propertotty?), what about Naomi Cleaver?



And any minute now Ganesh is going to post a picture of that City Gardener bloke.
 
 
Spaniel
10:53 / 23.04.04
Kirsty is on the phone to Phil's wife "explaining" matters, and Phil is touching her in a sexy place.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:00 / 23.04.04
I was going to mention the City Gardener in this thread! Tell me, was the episode I saw an anomaly or (as I suspect) does he always do up the gardens of slightly posh women in their late twenties / early thirties who are not especially ugly? Can you always cut the sexual tension with a trowel?
 
 
Sax
11:46 / 23.04.04
Yes, it's like that every episode. He goes and transforms a paved garden (which used to be called a "yard" when I was a lad), flirts with the twentysomething owner who always works in PR, then they get a load of her fit mates round to move bits of twig, then he finishes and they have a party outside with lots of candles, wine, and frottage from the laughing City Gardener.

It's brilliant.
 
 
Spaniel
13:12 / 23.04.04
Is the show still inter-cut with sunny images of gardner-oliver leaning against walls laughing?

I really loved that, I did. It didn't make me want to smash him.
 
 
Ganesh
22:30 / 23.04.04
And any minute now Ganesh is going to post a picture of that City Gardener bloke.

Pfft. The City (Uphill) Gardener may be superficially shaggable in a lying-there-inertly kinda way, but his voice lets him down: it has a whinily (is that an adverb) ingratiating tone which renders him contemptible. Which is not to say I couldn't get off on forcing him to worship my John Innes No.1-caked green wellies. And perhaps adding to his 'outdoors' complexion...
 
 
Sax
10:01 / 29.04.04
There was no Kirstie & Phil last night. Bastards.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
09:13 / 30.04.04
Kirsty=Hot

Sarah=Not
 
 
Spatula Clarke
11:54 / 30.04.04
Naomi Cleaver makes me feel funny.

That is all.
 
 
The Natural Way
16:11 / 30.04.04
There is something very sexy about Kirsty, isn't there?

Don't know what it is. A certain....neatness.

Aaah, there I go again, getting all hot over anal women.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
11:42 / 05.05.04
Canvassing my own office (which, being a community-based dual mental health and social work centre, is lesbigay-heavy) reveals an almost overwhelmingly Kirsty-centric vote - on the grounds that she looks (and this is a big winner with the dykes) "really dirty".

Similar constituency-'work' conversation, same we love Kirrrrrsty response. Although we think she's "filthy".

 
 
Ganesh
11:52 / 05.05.04
Indeed. I found online photos for the 'don't know's; to a woman, they plumped for Kirsty because "she looks like she'd be well up for it" ("it" apparently being miscellaneous Sapphistry What Man Was Not Meant To Know...).
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:40 / 05.05.04
Did anyone see City Gardener last night? Now, you know how he usually gardens for a single woman who works in publishing, but this time it was for a couple... And you know how they were into grrrrroovey retro 60s style, and wanted some 'privacy' added to their garden?

They were swingers, right? That's why the City Gardener looked so nervous at the party at the end, right?
 
  

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