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Is Anyone Here A Literary Agent (Or Do You Know One Personally)

 
  

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Alex's Grandma
09:32 / 28.04.04
So, y'know, stay pos.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
10:43 / 28.04.04
Oooh!

What do you write, Alex, and where can we read it?
 
 
Sax
10:54 / 28.04.04
Yeah! Published?

And who's your agent, and do they want oral sex?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
12:52 / 28.04.04
Well yes, yes they do.

Still, we've all got to eat little bit of dirt before we die. Is what I was thinking in that small-ish office over coffee and so on, the last time I was there.

I don't mean to be a bore, but the convo seemed to go as such:

" Well, what drugs are you taking ? "

" ... "

" Because I wasn't too sure if I shouldn't finish the book or just kill myself, really. Is that what you intended ? "
 
 
Whisky Priestess
14:29 / 28.04.04
It's all about supportiveness, ain't it?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
17:15 / 28.04.04
Indeed it is, WP, indeed it is.

It's a fairly bloody Darwinian process, trying to get your stuff in print. That said, it seems to me ( failed guy though I am, ) that as long as you've got a fairly stylish turn of phrase and an interesting story, you're going to be fine.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
07:10 / 30.04.04
I have another question. A guy I know in SF told me the next big thing is The New Weird -- China Mieville supposedly epitomises this trend. Anyone heard of it? I wouldn't want to pitch my stuff under some label that's only going to baffle people.
 
 
Sax
07:49 / 30.04.04
Sounds like something I'd want to pitch my stuff under exactly. I'll have a poke around.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
12:42 / 30.04.04
I found one page of half-dead links about the New Weird. It sounded fine -- blurring boundaries between SF, fantasy and mainstream -- but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try to hook an agent by

i) placing your work within a genre they might never have heard of

ii) placing your work within a genre that sounds kooky and obscure

iii) saying your work cannot easily be categorised (which is fine artistically but not so much comercially).
 
 
Sax
12:46 / 30.04.04
I'd agree on point three - however, if you approach some of the smaller publishing companies like Dedalus they positively relish that kind of thing.

Another good genre descriptor I like the sound of is "slipstream".
 
 
Alex's Grandma
14:45 / 30.04.04
I dunno. I'm by no means an expert here, but I think it's probably best to avoid categorising your work unless you're sending it off to a niche publisher, eg Dedalus. If you're dealing with an agent, I'd be inclined to leave the whole genre thing as open-ended as possible, so as not to potentially alienate someone who might otherwise quite like your material. Also, while I haven't checked it out, The New Weird sounds like something that people have been doing for a quite a while now anyway, so I'm not sure how much use it is as a term in any case, to be honest. So I'd tend to avoid it, myself.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
16:05 / 30.04.04
But Alex, you are avoiding the question - where can we read your stuff, you agented-up young Lit Idol?

Before we worship you, you see, we must first JUDGE you.
 
 
Loomis
09:27 / 05.12.04
Ok, so I'm about to do the rounds with novel no. 2, via the process discussed in this thread. Basic covering letter, 1-2 page synopsis (written in a kind of blurby style but outlining the main plot points and ending), plus the first chapter (I would have sent two, but my chapters average about 8000w in length so I thought one would do).

Here's a quick question for everyone. Which font type and size do you use?
 
 
Mark Parsons
04:56 / 06.12.04
You don't necessarily need an agent to submit to a publisher. Slush files do get looked at: if your work fails to grab within a paragraph, you'll get binned. An agent won't go near you unless you are referred (as brilliant by another writer) or you have published quality work elsewhere (short stories).

For everything you need to know about publishing, getting published go here:

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight

Theresa Nielsen Hayden is an editor at TOR books (a division of Tom Doherty) here in the US. Tor publishes Gene Wolfe, an amazing writer. Her blog deals with lots of stuff, but it offers clear eyed advice on the writing and publishing game. You'll need to search about for these bits, but trust me, it will be well worth it. She has a low tolerance for BS. I found out about her via Neil Gaiman's website. he also has interesting things to say about writing, but I gather he's not too popular on these boards. So fuck alla those people anyway!
 
 
Whisky Priestess
14:39 / 25.09.06
OK, I KNOW that some of you talented bastards are agented up by now. What are yours like and would you recommend them? If so why? And so forth.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
14:54 / 27.09.06
... I guess not then ...
 
 
miss wonderstarr
06:28 / 28.09.06
Gosh, this was a blast from the past. Bear in mind that I don't feel I authored the original posts at all.

However, I have a non-fiction agent (who is apparently selling my project verrry slowwly) and met up with an agent re. a novel quite recently ~ she told me to consider myself very lucky and very talented because she was giving me facetime, and that she would be keen to see my next (currently halfway through) novel when it was done.

The most fun part was discussing it as the first in a franchise ~ that you'd have a flashback novel as #3, and with #4 you could take the protagonist to an entirely different environment... really building the brand. I felt my writing was being treated as a major commercial project, albeit in potential (and sort of hypothetically).

I've not had the inclination to push on recently as, through unfortunate coincidence, the novel is based around South London crime and I've been directly involved in South London crime, so it feels a little close to home. In time, I think traumatic real life experience can help your fiction, but not immediately after.
 
 
--
15:36 / 29.09.06
Well, if worse comes to worse, you can always self-publish, which I read is becoming a big trend these days. The good thing about self-publishing is that it gives the writer much more control, and you don't have to worry about the publisher losing money on the book, as they only print new ones whenever someone orders it (the drawback to this, of course, is that you won't get as much exposure: YOU end up having to do most of the marketing yourself). I'm actually self-publishing a book through iUniverse right now and they've been great (I hear that Lulu.com is pretty good also). Part of my plan is to self-publish my first book, see if it does well (hopefully), so when I approach a major publisher I can show them how my first book did to prove there's a market for my writing style (wishful thinking, I know). Might be something to think about if you can't break in anywhere else. It's helpful to keep in mind how many books are written each year, how few of those books are published, and how even less of those published books are even purchased or read (I should know... I work at a bookstore, and so many new books just don't sell at all. It's very sad).
 
 
Spaniel
19:36 / 02.10.06
MW, that's really cool. I hope you find the will to reengage with your novel soon.

You are still in contact with agent, yes?
 
 
will
07:38 / 31.10.06
I'm new here. Very new.

So forgive me if I stumble a bit. But the literary game is a classic case of massive over-supply. If you go the conventional route you're at the back of a very very very long queue. You can find ways to queuejump.

The last thing agents want is another writer. There are too many of them. They want someone who is well-connected, resourceful, and will ensure that you will not make them a laughing stock and therefore bust their credibility as an agent.

I suggested to a "friend" who had written a historical novel that instead of sending it to agents, he should chose three published writers he admired and send them a few chapters.

He did so. One didn't reply. The second, a minor thriller writer, said it was very nice but needed more work. The third, a highly respected writer loved it and asked permission to show it to her agent. My "friend" got a bidding war, a substantial three book deal and is now on his fifth novel. AND GOD HOW I HATE HIM.

That said, my own agent (I think he's my agent still: he hated my novel draft so much he asked me never, ever to send him another one) warns against anything remotely gimmicky. He is the agent for a successful brutal Brit thriller writer, and thus gets millions of would be Cockney thug-a-likes. Hoping for verite one would-be writer sent him a different threatening letter each week for a month before finally sending the manuscript. Which, naturally, went unread into the bin.

Anyway. Hello.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
21:12 / 01.11.06
It's kind of on a par with putting a "sexy" picture of oneself in with the three chapters, or doing a bookbinding course and sending your hopeful novel off in a calfskin, gold-tooled cover, innit?
 
  

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