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Jack Fear
18:56 / 08.01.05
Initial images from the film at Ain't It Cool News. Be interesting to see the visual techniques of Waking Life applied to a more strictly narrative film.

Trailer will be attached to Constantine, apparently.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
19:35 / 08.01.05
Now I'm just oddly dissapointed we don't get Keanu in fully photographed beardy mode. Other than that all I can think is "hmmm, interesting...." and stare blankly at nothing.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
22:38 / 08.01.05
I think it looks very nice indeed. This could potentially be great, and I would dearly love to see a PKD film that really suggested the brilliance of his writing.
 
 
Boy Racer
06:51 / 11.01.05
Reeves fearers should chill. This film is in the hands of Richard Linklater, the great unsung hero of contemporary American cinema, it will not suck.
 
 
_Boboss
08:10 / 11.01.05
'unsung'

or

'overhyped from day one'

?

I'LL decide.

looking forward to this a lot. really hope he backgrounds the sf bits as much as the book and goes for the full bad-drug seventies bit, it could be the perfect answer to dazed&confused's rosey hedonism.
 
 
Boy Racer
09:01 / 11.01.05
Lol. In comparison to the likes of say, Tarantino or Kaufman/Jonze, I'd say that Linklater has been pretty unsung.
But I'm absolutely with you on the hopes for a grimey seventies counterpoint to D & C.
 
 
Hieronymus
23:29 / 20.02.05
Trailer's out.

Why do I still loathe Keanu, even in cartoon form?
 
 
PatrickMM
00:20 / 21.02.05
I think Keanu works perfectly there, he definitely sounds like someone who's had far too many drugs. And, the trailer as a whole is great, it looks good, and seems to really capture the gritty, rundown feel of most of PKD's books, something that most recent adaptations completely miss.

As for Linklater being unsung, I would largely agree. If you talk to people who aren't big film fans, they're definitely going to know who Tarantino is, and probably Kevin Smith, but I seriously doubt they'd know Linklater, and they probably haven't seen many of his movies. He's getting more recognition now, with Before Sunset, but in the real world at least, he's still largely unknown.
 
 
The Strobe
09:39 / 24.02.05
I too think it looks very good. In particular, I loved the interpretation of the scramble-suit; looked perfect, to my miind.
 
 
Spaniel
10:19 / 24.02.05
Well, after seeing the trailer I'm pretty curious. That Waking Life visual effect was always going to have more legs than the actual film and I'm glad to see Linklater's ressurected it. As for Linklater himself, well, he's a little hit and miss as far as I'm concerned, but I think he could pull this one off, or at least give it a good go.

Looks like it's gonna be a pretty low budget affair, so hopefully there isn't too much pressure on to produce a conventional sci-fi movie.
 
 
_Boboss
10:38 / 24.02.05
not really possible - it's a massively unconventional sf story. the main character is an undercover cop and when he meets with other cops they are all wearing invisible suits so no-one knows who each other is. that's in about three scenes. the rest of it is just sheer seventies bad-drug paranoia, breakdowns, dissolution and sadness. seen the trailer, mad looking forward to this.
 
 
Spaniel
10:48 / 24.02.05
In this context, by conventional I mean a film that resembles the book in name only. Like most PKD "adaptations".
 
 
charrellz
22:30 / 26.02.05
I haven't read the book yet, so I don't know how it looks as far as an adaptation, but that trailer has gotten me very excited about this movie. Can't wait.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
10:09 / 27.02.05
What the trailer, and maybe the film, seems to be missing is the sheer laugh-out-loud humour of the book. ASD is damn funny, and that doesn't come across in the trailer. Charlie Kaufman's rejected screenplay struck a good balance between the drama and the humour, I don't see this happenning in a Keanu movie. Boyo can't do funny unless he's paired with Bill S. Preston Esquire.

And as for Linklater not being 'well known': wasn't School of Rock kinda, you know, absolutely huge?
 
 
fluid_state
19:11 / 14.03.05
If ever there was an actor to convince me that his brain was at war with itself, it's Keanu. Just saw the trailer... if you're worried about this not being funny, well, it does have Woody Harrelson in it.
 
 
matsya
23:19 / 14.03.05
and winona ryder and robert downey jr. ooh mama. could be very strange indeed.

m.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
09:43 / 19.02.06
New trailer.

Looks niiice...
 
 
Sniv
11:51 / 19.02.06
Niiiice. Since I heard about this film, I've been indignant, worried, relieved and now I'm pant-wettingly excited. I read the book quite recently, and loved it more than I thought I would. It's easily PKD's most human work that I've read. Almost all the characters (bar Barris) are sympathetic, rounded people, and the plot is typical PKD head-spinny horribleness.

From what we've seen in the new trailer, this film is incredibly faithful to the text, I couldn't believe it. Whole bits, lifted straight from the book. Barris' silencer, Jerry Fabin's bugs and suicide attempt (with Ayn Rand!), the scramble suits and Bob's speech about the scanner... fuck yes. The only troublesome elements were the text saying that "Everyone will be watched" (which is not really true, as Bob and co were under surveillance becuase they were heads, not just as a matter of course), and the insinuation from the trailer that Bob and Fred could be seperate from the start of the film, which would ruin a lot of the "oh shit" points in the story. But that could just be from the way the trailer was edited, and to get across a feeling of the movie in just a couple of minutes.

Can't wait though.
 
 
Char Aina
12:11 / 19.02.06
looks good.
should i get the book and start reading, then?
before this ruins it for me?
 
 
Sniv
12:23 / 19.02.06
yesyesyesyes. The book is fantastic. I'm not sure what you're into reading usually, but it's not hyper-sf like some of Dick's other work, it's just a story of paranoid heads going mental. But it's great.

It reminded me of a lot of other 'druggy' authors from around the same period. Like a more restrained Burroughs or Thompson, especially the Barris character, who reminded me a lot of HST. I can't recommend the book highly enough, especially if you have a chemical personality, or are familiar with that vein of novel.
 
 
THX-1138
13:13 / 19.02.06
I'll second that. You have got to read the book before you see the movie.
 
 
sleazenation
13:18 / 19.02.06
You certainly have to have read the book to appreciate much of the trailer. Otherwise I can see the main response being 'why did they make a cartoon of real actors'...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:58 / 19.02.06
It was the first PKD I read, back when I was about thirteen or something, and it's the one I go back to most often. It gets funnier and sadder every time I read it.
 
 
iamus
19:21 / 19.02.06
The trailer sounds great at least, but I'll have to check that Link Later.



Sorry.

As you were.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
21:24 / 19.02.06
Anyone read the Wired cover story on this? Apparently they locked out all the Waking Life guys halfway through and replaced them, made up style sheets, etcetera. Kind of seems like they sucked all the life out of what made WL so cool and what would've made this so hallucinatory. Disheartening to say the least. PKD's stuff practically screams for that kind stylistic scattershot approach that Waking Life had. Oh well.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:26 / 27.02.06
That trailer shows off one of the main benefits of the visual style really well - the ability to provide Reeves' face with the sort of expressiveness the man himself seems incapable of.
 
 
Jack Fear
01:12 / 28.02.06
Apparently they locked out all the Waking Life guys halfway through and replaced them...

...apparently with the people who are doing those Charles Schwab ads.
 
 
Feverfew
20:56 / 02.03.06
The second trailer for this is up now at link and, well, it makes me happier about the film. I think the first trailer didn't really sell the "freaky comedy" (which is a disservice to the PkD novel, yes) aspect.

Granted, there is some dodgy quasi-electronic music from about halfway through, but, dammit, I want this movie to be good. Really good. Am I waiting in vain?
 
 
Jack Fear
22:08 / 02.03.06
Feverfew: Here's a handy HTML primer that will help you turn those URLs into actual, functional links.

Also, I'm pretty sure that's the same trailer that was linked a couple of posts above.

Other than that, your points are well taken. Robert Downey's patented quirky drawl does reinforce the comedy angle of the film. It's still going to be a tough sell, though: paranoia and absurdity aren't an intuitively appealing combination. Dick pulls it off, of course, and Linklater might—but it's a hard thing to convey in a two-minute trailer.
 
 
Sniv
13:14 / 03.03.06
I've got a small feeling that the 2nd trailer was put out specifically to satiate the PKD fanboys (of which I am probably a card carrying member now). I mean, the homemade silencer, the suicide scene, everything Woody Harrelson says and does, even the design of the scramble suit (which is pretty much perfect) - it's trying to prove to us that it is the book we know and love. I'll bet we get some more 'mainstreamy' trailers towards the release, perhaps focusing on the madness/surveillance aspect a bit more so your average audience can tell what kind of film it'll be.

But this is an odd story, so they better make the film twisted, or it won't work. I'm still scared that they're going to bring the surveillance and brain-split into the story too early (or heaven forbid, from the very start), or ram a bloody car chase in there - although, if there is one, the engine better be covered in fecal matter when they finish, or I will be getting angry... Damn them for playing with my geeky emotions!
 
 
Feverfew
15:32 / 03.03.06
Jack, thank you for the primer - my html-fu is not good at the moment, but I will endeavour to learn.

I also apologise for double-posting the trailer link. I will restrain myself in future from such silliness (hopefully).

John - that's exactly the feeling I get about the second trailer, that it appeals to the much much smaller target demographic of PkD fans more than anything else. Time will tell regarding the mainstream trailers, also.

Lastly - the reason I think I posted in such excitement is that there's a two-second flash of the trailer that just gets me by the throat when I watch it - it's just after "Winona Ryder" pops up on the screen, and ignore the voice-over - for me it's just that look on her face (while driving) that just gets me. Because, if this comes at the part of the film that I think it must come at, then, well, it's very, very sad.

Sorry, I'm not explaining myself well - but that two-second shot of Donna, looking over while driving with such concern on her face - that was one of the most tragic shots I think I've seen recently.

There is always the possibility, however, that I'm talking complete hogwash.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
19:27 / 03.03.06
I like Woody's Illuminati shirt in the cafe scene.
 
 
Sniv
21:29 / 03.03.06
as long as Donna's ramming a coke truck, I'll be happy. I really loved that odd, quixotic nature to her character.
 
 
Feverfew
18:45 / 16.03.06
The poster for the film seems to be up, and can be seen here tinily - I can't seem to find a larger link.

I'm not sure why, but the poster brings me woe.
 
 
Hieronymus
19:13 / 16.03.06
Because it looks like the cast of Three's Company on a meth bender?
 
  

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