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Not Spalliance. Boboss.
God, I really am getting a little carried away with this thread.
Well, I don't know, people seem to be suggesting a variety of different types of clones...
Hmm, not sure about this, but to save time wasting I am going to define terms. I was specifically responding to the sf clone, or, in layman's terms, someone utterly identical to oneself.
Why was I responding to that definition of clone specifically? Well, firstly, because a number of people expousing the "I'd like to fuck my clone" line made it quite clear that this was the kind of clone they were talking about. Secondly, because many other posters had expressed the notion that having sex with your clone would be like masturbation. Now, whilst I disagree strongly with that description, the only way I know to make sense of it is to assume that people are talking about making it with someone identical to themselves - in every sense. Why? Because masturbation is, by definition, to gratify oneself sexually.
Lastly, intuitively I feel that this is the most sexually appealing (or at least intruiging) proposition. What would it be like to have sex with me? Not me ten years ago. Not me in the future. Not a genetically identical clone possessing none of my desires, experiences etc... Not my twin. No, I'm talking about having it off with myself. Surely that's what all the fuss is about?
I have to say, however, your time travel example does spice up the argument.
I don't see why a clone that had been created for just the purpose of sex wouldn't necessarily 'possess identical desires, passions, kinks, and know exactly what turns you on'.
I didn't argue that they wouldn't. I was merely responding to "I guess it depends if the clone has a life independent of you or not..." in the paragraph quoted. To reiterate, it they don't possess "life independent of you" then I would ask how it is possible for them to possess their own desires etc...? Unless, as I have stated, we are talking about some kind of simulcrum.
And then we get into all kinds of debates about androids and robots and identity theory and... let's not go there.
I think the self loathing that would ensue (for ME at any rate) would be much worse than any physical mismatching.
Yep, I said it was crude example, but the principle has much subtler applications.
I have also argued elsewhere, that your desires may exclude another you. See my posts regarding S&M and homosexuality.
But, just like with ordinary people, how would you know if you matched up with an identical person or not, any more than your 16 year old girl friend knew before she slept with you?
I never said you would. In fact you have simply rephrased my original point. I have only ever argued that doin' your clone might be a little more complicated than some have allowed for.
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