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09:31 / 05.03.04

Yeah, because your initial post was so fucking practical it hurt (see, I can swear too!).

It isn't about swearing and you know that. I just swear when i'm angry. I'm not perfect, read between the lines.

Jack, you're far from being the first person to turn up on Barbelith and tell us we're not being revolutionary enough, but that rather than engaging in political activism or discussion or anything boring like that, we need to follow your vague instructions (saying "wake up!" over and over again does not make it any more meaningful).

Yeah and i hope i'm not the last! And come on, as if i'm trying to dissuade you from activism so you can read my shit! I just figure that seeing as your here a reminder might be handy? Look, i know i'm not perfect. I'm a mess. Don't for GODS SAKE follow me, just try and work out how you would go about waking up if you really had to. Check out Gnosticism, Chan Buddhism, Shamanism, Crowley, Meditation techniques, go through the Magic forum and have a good look. Spend an hour here, and click on whatever draws your attention. Don't forget about it just because you've maybe spent a few hours there in the past, if you have been there, you won't need me to tell you that it could take MONTHS to get through that lot. That site is brilliant because it's so interconnected, you end up all over the place and then you get interested in things you've never even heard of before. Look up Douglass Rushkoff, Timothy Leary, Robert Anton Wilson, Jake Horsley, Jason Wynd, Terence Mckenna, whoever you want. Don't and i repeat DONT think i have the answers though, you can only do it yourself. I'm just trying to wind you people up so maybe one or two of you search around for some cool stuff that just might be life changing, then you can tell us about it when you get back.

I don't know.

Nor are you the first person outraged by the fact that the board ceased long ago to revolve solely around The Invisibles. I'm sure you won't be the last, either.

I hope i'm not Flyboy, i really hope i'm not. Thanks, that was constructive.

09:52 / 05.03.04

In what way is the whole GM/Invisibles thing practical in any sense? Inspirational, maybe - but practical, how? I don't think that's its purpose. I think it's got a lot of great ideas out into the ether. That was it's purpose as far as I'm concerned.

To me, and this is just my own opinion, it was massively practical because it physically, mentally and spiritually effected change in my being, and i've only read series three. I don't have to read and memorize everything GM's done to get a good idea of the intent of that work, it was jumping off the pages and initiating me. It was a hypersigil, and the only things that have hit me like that as far as i can remember are The Zelator by Mark Hedsel and David Ovason, Jake Horsely's Matrix Warrior and Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger. The Disinformation book by Richard Metzger also did it but at the moment i can't find it to give you the title of it. It's the one that has RAW, GM, G.P.Orridge etc in it, and was the book that i first heard of GM in.

If you want to change the world, y'know, go and do some voluntary work. Start a study group or begin a magickal practice. I can't see what just going off on one on the 'net achieves.

Yes i agree. But it has achieved something, it's got you thinking about it.

For some reason i've woke up yesterday morning and this morning in revolution mode. I'm done now, i'm sick of making a scene of myself and my'self' wasn't the intent.

Geez read my Incoming this is Jack Frost thread somewhere in the Magic forum, this is nothing. If you do though, don't come back questioning me about it, i'm not mr answers. Ahh, just checked who i'm replying to, sorry Illmatic i think you've already been exposed to that madness, sorry for reminding you of it.

09:57 / 05.03.04

But while admirable, preaching to the converted isn't really revolutionary. Tomorrow afternoon, go down to the roughest pub you can find, turn off the football and read out all your posts in a loud voice. Then you might achieve something.

09:57 / 05.03.04

*checks watch*

Isn't it about time someone made sneerily genius reference to sheep, sleeping or 'the masses'?

Regrettable Juvenilia

10:03 / 05.03.04

Okay, so you're not claiming to have all the answers - but your tone definitely assumes that you're the person who's required to show people the way. We are slacking sleepers, we need your direction to (re)gain our true purpose and make some (unspecified) changes, yada yada yada. You're presenting yourself as a John The Baptist figure, if you like. And only now are you suggesting some specific sites or authors to read. Can you not see how that might piss some people off? Or if it's your intention to piss people off, since you talk about wanting to "wind people up", why all the "you fuck you assholes" stuff when people express their bafflement or annoyance?

10:22 / 05.03.04

Oh fucking hell, this is gonna be a long day. Now i know why Grant Morrison didn't post here so much, he wanted to avoid getting into this type of thing!

Okay, so you're not claiming to have all the answers - but your tone definitely assumes that you're the person who's required to show people the way.

Haha, read the thread summary. I wanted ALL of us to collectively inspire each other.

We are slacking sleepers, we need your direction to (re)gain our true purpose and make some (unspecified) changes, yada yada yada.

I don't know what the hell we need flyboy, but it's not my direction, the aim was to get loads of us to try and form a collective direction. No one person can do that.

You're presenting yourself as a John The Baptist figure, if you like.

*starts shaking and panicking*

And only now are you suggesting some specific sites or authors to read. Can you not see how that might piss some people off?

Again, read the thread summary : Inspiration, good thoughts, feelings and ideas. It wasn't the intent to have just a link or suggestion thread.

Or if it's your intention to piss people off, since you talk about wanting to "wind people up", why all the "you fuck you assholes" stuff when people express their bafflement or annoyance?

The YOU FUCK YOU was for the threadrotters, and you are certainly not rotting the thread. Please, no more John the Baptist!

But while admirable, preaching to the converted isn't really revolutionary. Tomorrow afternoon, go down to the roughest pub you can find, turn off the football and read out all your posts in a loud voice. Then you might achieve something.

Yep. A smack in the face!

*checks watch*

Isn't it about time someone made sneerily genius reference to sheep, sleeping or 'the masses'?

*also checks watch and then looks around*

Old brown-eye is back

10:31 / 05.03.04

"Tomorrow afternoon, go down to the roughest pub you can find, turn off the football and read out all your posts in a loud voice. Then you might achieve something."

Yes - getting someone's foot stuck up your ass. And if it's the Portsmouth/Arsenal game you're messing with, it might very well be me.

10:32 / 05.03.04

i'm saving all your posts jack, and i'm going to send them to you in about three years' time.

i'd get charging the anti-terminal embarrassment sigil now if i were you.

baaaaaaaaaa

10:33 / 05.03.04

Not sure why sheep get such a bad rep anyway, their quite independant when left on their own. You'd probably run into a pen if a dog the same size as you was running at you....

I think everyone can see what your trying to say Jack it's just that your coming across a little preachy.

Pretty sure everyone on here fucks shit up in their own little way.

10:40 / 05.03.04

I don't. I reckon shit's not for fucking.

10:42 / 05.03.04

Jack, out of interest, do you have a personal magickal practice or discipline that you follow? By that I mean, a programme of exercises/meditation or study that you do on a regular basis, not just a vague "yeah, I'm into it". You don't have to post the details, yes or no will do. You're obviously inspired by the authors and texts you've mentioned and want people to share in their enthusiam. I wondered if a personal practice might be a better focus for you?

People do tend to object to these big collective projects. Most people are pursuing their own interests anyway, as well as working etc so they don't have much time for it.

10:46 / 05.03.04

Oh fucking hell, this is gonna be a long day.

People's failure to recognise one's revolutionary genius is a pain in the arse, eh? Almost as if one's shit were being fucked.

*sigh*

If only the sheep would learn to think for themselves and collectively flock into my pen...

11:25 / 05.03.04

Yeah yeah i hear ya.

Illmatic i meditate nearly everyday and do a few spells a week, guidance, healing and sigils just to get me into this again. I've also started going to Kung Fu classes.

As for coming across as preachy i'll locate that problem and get rid of it ASAP as and when it rears it's ugly head if that's a problem of mine.

This thread is rotten and wants to drift off and die.

12:29 / 05.03.04

I think you are all being rotten. The wilful blindness of slaves. Today, I've charged at least ten sigils, with a picture of Trinity in wet look PVC as my focus. Viva la revolucciòn! What have you done to make the world a better place? eh? eh?

Tryphena Absent

13:53 / 05.03.04

It isn't about swearing and you know that. I just swear when i'm angry. I'm not perfect, read between the lines.

Really? I could have sworn you were.

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Have you considered burning your Robert Anton Wilson?

13:56 / 05.03.04

Dude don't start on RAW!

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

13:57 / 05.03.04

Ooh. I burned my Robert Anton Wilson myself once, you know. Carelessness with an under-the-duvet spliff. Don't recommend it.

14:53 / 05.03.04

This thread wants to die, leave it alone!

I have no connection to any posts in this chaos!

PROVE IT!!!

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