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Arabic Scholars Needed; Sufi specialists preferred

 
  

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EvskiG
19:25 / 26.09.07
For those who might be interested: Jews With Tattoos.

That's my old pal Todd with the "emet" (truth) tattoo on the third photo page.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
19:48 / 26.09.07
Phex has come across an image he likes and is planning to have it tattooed on him - he would like to know what it means, but this is not a factor in his decision to get the image tattooed

Not exactly. Were the phrase to read, for instance, 'God is Great' I would a) not agree with that statement, being an atheist, and wouldn't want it on my body and b) realize that this is an expression that is massively important to a culture that is not my own and therefore I have no place getting it tatooed on my body just so my right tricep looks snazzy (in the same way that I wouldn't get Maori or other tribal tatoos). On the other hand, it may mean 'I like cookies' and, since I enjoy flavorsome crunchyness in all its forms I would have no problem being stabbed thousands upon thousands of times to show my love, even if the statement is in a alphabet that isn't the one I use.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:51 / 26.09.07
Partly it's because the tradition of "Westerners" getting dreadlocks, Maori tattoos, African masks and so on tends to be about using those things from colonised cultures as signifiers of "rawness", violence, brute strength, mindless sexuality, and so on - which is a totally unfair way of boxing up entire cultures.

Not sure why dreadlocks are included here- I had dreads for about ten years, and believe you me, it was nothing to do with violence, brute strength, mindless sexuality OR Africa. None of these things even occurred to me- it's just in my case it was what happens when you have very long hair which you don't wash. After a while you start actually cultivating it- partly for aesthetic reasons, partly for practical ones; and I swear, it was the most practical hairdo I've ever had.
 
 
kamals
16:25 / 27.09.07
Wow, this thread exploded.

As for the Arabic calligraphy tattoo art example, I can honestly make out the letters but the combination is rather artistic :-) e.g. illegible (Imagine taking the words "read me" and separate the letters artistically, and changing their order.) I bounced it over to a friend who is a calligrapher though. I'll post his interpretation.

Appropriation is a sensitive issue in many circles, the emphasis on consciousness - being conscious to these issues - is important to me. At the same time I realise that in spite of political correctness all cultures appropriate aspects of other cultures and are derivative. An Armani suit and an Arab's djellaba both descend from the same Roman tunic which was picked up in Byzantium, bounced over to Russia as a priestly vestment, evolved into a type of short coat worn by Poles, copied in France while the Arab version became the qamis and the djellaba, was copied in Moorish Spain, and became a surcoat worn by knights, was shortened and eventually re-merged with its cousin in Parisian fashion, etc., etc..

High velocity cultural appropriation takes place along vectors determined by flows of power often, one group emulating a group more, or less, privileged than they are. I like being conscious but I dislike making moral judgements. If 21 year old bougi co-eds want to paint each other with Henna, their desire is a form of admiration of the culture they appropriate this from - "the most sincere complement is flattery."
 
  

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