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Hunterwolf and Impulsivelad. In these threads I try to wear my Reader-Hat, not my Editor-Hat. Even when I wear my Editor-Hat, my personal preferences have very little to do with what is acceptable for a Jenny story. I believe I've established that even if there are aspects of a story that I do not like, so long as it has some merit I will put it on the site. As I said previously, I appreciate more than you know the hard work that goes into even the sloppiest of stories (not that this story is one of those). I am not trying to enforce a singular vision upon anyone else. I'm simply making criticisms in the hope that better work will be produced. If anyone feels that my criticisms on these threads are invalid, then they are free to ignore them. In fact, I may just go back into my self-imposed exile after this.
Hunterwolf, I understood what you meant about male/female body image. I just don't see the relevance to Jenny. If Jenny were Johnny I'd say the same thing. Jenny's proportions were created that way as just one more tool to be used in making vibrant, exciting, different comics. As you yourself proved by your comments on the sketch I provided, this is not a body type normally seen in comics or other forms of entertainment, and this can seem shocking and abnormal because of that. I don't mean to attack you by saying this. It took me a long time and a great deal of effort to get out of the rut of conceiving and drawing "idealized" men and women. I sympathize with anyone who might have a hard time breaking out of that mold. However, I dislike the excuses. That's just my version. Men are misrepresented, too. Hey, she's public domain. This seems lazy to me. When all the other aspects of a story are so well thought out, but this one aspect isn't even considered or is shrugged off, yes, it bothers me.
You said that Jenny's size may not be the point of the character, which suggests that there is some other sort of objective point. To me, Jenny's appearance is of far more interest than the more overt high concepts of dimension-hopping or multiple selves, but it is one that is sadly neglected. This is one of the main points of the character for me, though I realize that it would not be for others.
I admit full responsibility for having very vague guidelines as to what Jenny should look like, even going so far as saying that her "costume" isn't even a necessity. What it all boils down to is that I'd like my friends to be represented in comics. I'd like people to read a Jenny comic and be weirded out, and wonder just why they feel that way. I have nothing but respect for those people who have drawn Jenny stories, but I would hope that if they didn't catch the implication that Jenny should be less cliche in proportion the first time, that they would at least consider it when it's brought to their attention.
And, yes, I appreciate that you are one of those people who have given this some thought. Sorry for jumping down your throat.
Impulsivelad and Cliffsteele, I'd like to reiterate my thanks for taking the time out on a Jenny story. I hope that any criticisms you receive don't deter you from further stories, but rather encourage you to re-examine your work and see where you can improve where you deem necessary, even if that is at odds with your critics. After all, you have quite a few people who enjoyed the story with little or no reservation, so there must be something cooking.
And to be completely honest, I didn't mind Jenny's proportions in this story so much as the whole "boob sock" thing she had going.
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