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Clone Wars: better than Lucas?

 
  

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:39 / 18.04.05
Someone's just burned Season Three for me... not watched it yet but I'm really rather excited...
 
 
FinderWolf
16:41 / 18.04.05
huh? I thought they were only just midway through Season 2 of the Clone Wars cartoons now (airing them on Cartoon Network). I saw the 1st season DVD, I thought they were only up to season 2 on TV currently.
 
 
Spaniel
17:30 / 18.04.05
Well you want to get with programme, Wolfmaster.
Season three's ace.
 
 
Foust is SO authentic
18:40 / 18.04.05
Season three? What chapter numbers? I have copies of 21-25, and they end with the lead up to the movie.
 
 
diz
01:38 / 19.04.05
If Grievous hadn't been taken into Episode III, I would strongly dispute the cartoon's place in canon. The Ewok animation followed on from Episode VI; The Holiday Special followed on from Episode IV. Continuity from a canon source to some spin-off doesn't make the spin-off canon. Continuity from the spin-off back to the official source is a much better bet.

Even so, this is arguable. (I'm trying to recall old TheForce.Net debates here...)


basically, there's Movie-Level Canon, EU Canon, and "Infinities."

- The films, film adaptations, and radio dramas are Movie-Level Canon.

- The novels, all the in-continuity comics (which does, in fact, include the Marvel series with Jaxxon the space rabbit), the videogames, the Ewok made-for-TV movies, and the cartoons (Droids, Ewoks, and Clone Wars) are all considered equally valid EU Canon and are all understood to be in continuity with each other and the movies.

- Certain comics series (parodies and alternate-universe stories, mostly) and the Holiday Special are considered "Infinities," which is a cute marketing buzzword for "not canon"

Lucasfilm has been drawing the prequels, the Special Editions, and the EU into tighter orbits with each other as time goes on. elements from the EU pop up in the movies, and characters like Grievous who are designed to be in the movies are seeded in the EU first.

The Clone Wars storylines, especially, have been really tightly integrated. the idea was that the EU would pick up the ball at the end of AOTC, cover the entire conflict in a variety of media in "real time" for the three years between movies, and then drop things off at the big space battle at the beginning of ROTS, so that the whole thing is seamless.
 
 
Triplets
11:39 / 19.04.05
Does it matter if it's canon as long as you like it?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
13:03 / 19.04.05
I've only seen the first twenty episodes but I'm not greatly impressed. The only good work seems to be done by the sound effects guys. Elsewise the art design looks like it was half-completed by the design team that did the early days of the Batman Animated Adventures and then finished by people who did every cheap and nasty cartoon in the seventies. Why not do it in house or semi-in house? We could have had state of the art CGI and have the actors voice their parts (which would have taken, what, ten minutes for the twenty episodes?) It's not like Lucasfilm need to save money...
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
16:07 / 28.05.07
Um...yummy:

Star Wars: The Clone Wars CGI sneak peak

Looks like they took Tartakovsky's character designs and CGI-ed them... makes them look a little odd, but it still looks like a fairly wicked time.

It's kind of odd to be retreading this time period, though. Half of these characters are dead, bad guys especially. It would be cooler if they had picked a different time period, but what am I saying I'll still watch it.

Still really looking forward to the live action Rebellion show whenever that happens.
 
 
Spaniel
16:33 / 28.05.07
Has Tartakovsky got anything to do with this? I like the look of it regardless, but I likes me some Tartakovsky
 
 
Hieronymus
16:53 / 28.05.07
Star Wars has always had the best CGI space battles and there's no denying the animation looks hot hot hot in that trailer... but this just seems like tired regurgitation at this point. They're not really adding anything at all. Certainly not in story.

I'd rather they move on to the Expanded U at this point. A CGI portrayal of Han and Leia's children and the Yuuzhan Vong would be killer.
 
 
Hieronymus
16:57 / 28.05.07
And if Wiki is any indicator, Tartakovsy won't have a hand in any of it
 
 
miss wonderstarr
17:31 / 28.05.07
I don't know... even with that three minute clip, I fast-forwarded it and then closed it down before the end. I can't help feeling that the new Star Wars projects aren't likely to retain anything I still like about the saga ~ the human relationships, the character interaction, the humour. With hindsight, I feel most of what made the original trilogy work ~ when it did ~ wasn't the cold slickness you get with CGI, but the sense of a real universe, scuffed and grubby, full of real people who sparked off each other, argued and flirted. That was mostly absent in the prequel trilogy (replaced, occasionally, with a sense of epic grandeur and dramatic inevitability by Episode III) but I can't see why I'd care at all about a CGI version of a cartoon Ewan McGregor, fighting a CGI version of a cartoon version of General Grievous, a CGI robot.

The new PS3 game might be interesting ~ effectively episode 3.5, it does at least feature Vader heavily (I'm finding him one of the most interesting characters as I get older) and apparently has cameos from Leia, though I imagine she's about 5 years old.
 
  

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