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Modern-day League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

 
  

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Aertho
13:44 / 05.11.03
I'm thinking that if we're talking modern-day League, it'd be an agency run by an illuminatus society with connnections in the highest levels of American intelligence.

In which case, they'd probably draft expendable American weapons of war. I'm going with a team consisting of Jack Ryan, Buffy Summers, a reconstructed Terminator, an middle-aged Carrie White, and Hannibal Lector. Freddy Krueger would be their secret weapon.

Enemies would be the Picard-era Enterprise, come back to change the present to preserve the future -we never learn their agenda. But the future learned through the Terminator records has made the illuminatus particularly wary of time-travellers with that intent. They've already eliminated the Quantum Leap dude, and the alternate history's Rachel Summers. Their leaders are an elderly Indiana Jones, Billy Pilgrim, and Madonna.

When things get tough for strikeforce USA to handle the situation alone, they draft James Bond, Albus Dumbledore, and Akira.

Time gets fucked and several time-displaced Enterprises show up split seconds away from each other. Billy Pilgrim's head explodes. Terminator and Data fight to the death. Hannibal feasts on Klingon brains. The Lord Jesus Christ shows up at the end to set things right.
 
 
Warewullf
15:05 / 05.11.03
I thought the point of the post involved the evaluation of popular fiction as a cohesive whole, deciding which character identities become exemplars of particular recurring character type, and inventing a fictional unifying scenario where these elements could manifest.


Actually, it was fluff thread whereby we would suggest well-known characters FROM BOOKS that could make up a new League. For fun.

However, in typical Barbelith style, the original premise was ignored when someone presented a far easy alternative. Ie, suggest any fucking name that comes to mind, and then get bogged down in pointless details.


*****Here endeth the thread.*****
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:14 / 05.11.03
Chesed... I love your line-up and premis...

However I think HIGHLANDER should certainly be a member of the illuminatus society along with Lestat.

The rebuilt Terminator could contain the brain of Col. Steve Austen

The Ancient SHAOLIN TEMPLE should send Mr Lee to observe these activities (they've been in China at least as long as the Illuminatus have been in Eurpoe/America) and act accordingly. Highlander may well be a double agent in the tradition of Hagbard Seline.

You also forgot to mention how Carrie eviscerates Counseller Troy.

Also, Freddy Krueger should be contained with-in either the consciousness of the Scanner Cammeron Vail or Alex from Dreamscape.
 
 
grant
21:31 / 05.11.03
However, in typical Barbelith style, the original premise was ignored when someone presented a far easy alternative. Ie, suggest any fucking name that comes to mind, and then get bogged down in pointless details.


Well, details, yes, but pointless? Never!

I have to say I find Chesed's time-travel set-up really, really appealing. If you prefer keeping it all literary, replace the Terminator with Winston Niles Rumfoord from Sirens of Titan, who's stuck in the chronosynclastic infundibulum, and Buffy Summers with... hmm... Anne Welles from Valley of the Dolls? Doesn't fit quite as nicely, although she'd been a fun Mina type.

I know there are Heinlein heroines who'd fit, but that'd be kind of cheating, since they're already in the future.
 
 
grant
22:15 / 05.11.03
Bah! Forget Anne Welles... Perdita Durango. I know her from David Lynch's Wild At Heart and an eponymous graphic novel, but she was in Barry Gifford's novels first.
She has the voodoo, she knows how crime works. Perfect.

By the way, this discussion has made me realize how much Clarice (from Silence of the Lambs) has in common with Mina Harker. They're totally cut from the same cloth.

I'd love to see Perdita converse with Rumfoord... the Latina con angel and the spaced-out upper-crusty New Englander.
 
 
bullet
04:41 / 04.03.04
I am no expert on modern day literature but I think you should stick to both novels of famous characters, and perhaps some graphic novels. I also think that the league, at least from the Alan Moore graphic novel all were from either pulp or horror. Any league I could see would have to have these elements as well. I went searching through Frank Miller's Sin City, and while I am sure that he has some characters there, I ran across other graphic novels that probably has the best bad boy and thats Cal McDonald (Criminal Macabre) also there is a movie deal going on with this guy.

I am very intrigued by Roland from Dark Tower, I think not only does he come from a good genre but he also can manipulate time itself, so therefore you could bring in some or at least one character from an alternate time period, because I think he brings in a couple.

Hanibal Lector also is a good example, like Nemo or Jekyl and Hyde, this guy could be going through a bit of repentence to do the job.

I think Carrie could be an excellent addition.

Between Jack Ryan and Bond, I think the mystique behind Bond and perhaps that he is a little bit more of a man of action than Ryan, besides there will probably be a larger "head man" because unless Ryan was promoted to some sort of Extra-Terrestial US dept. there would be no reason to have him, though he could make for an interesting character on the grounds of debriefing people.

Peronally I find Arthur Dent a little too cartoony for this kind of thing. Ms Marple, basically an Angela Lansbury kind of sleuth, perhaps as a minor character, met in passing or reffered to in the story as someone who can rival Holmes himself, or perhaps met Holmes.

Louis is by far the better character than Lestat, but once again thats my opinion, but even in the Tale of the Body Theif, Louis offers advice to Lestat who in turn acts upon it, Louis is a thinker while Lestat is clearly a reactor, plus I find Louis struggle much more appealing than Lestat's almost pure embrace of it.

There are a lot of characters from other media, and I wil admit Cal McDonald is not that prominent (yet) but neither is Jack Burton from Big Trouble in Little China, I give kudos to the faithful of Remo Williams, he at least has the power and can fit the genre (pulp) but I contest that the characters should also have a victorian quality or at least ultra-modern punk in them.

Harry Potter I dunno if I like him either, I don't think a child is good enough, and certainly not hardened enough, Tom Sawyer was not a great fit, but I liked him because he does have something, Sawyer was always lucky and you wrap that around the revenge of a childhood friend and I think he was good enough.

I love HP Lovecraft, but can you name one character that anybody knows thats not a Lovecraft fan? If we were taking it from movies I would take Lovecraft himself, from Cast a Deadly Spell. Which is why I would have to throw Randolph Carter and Charles Dexter Ward out the window unless by chance they gain popularity.

So I have no spellcaster right now, its what I would like to add, any suggestions aside from Hary Potter would be appreciative.

Since I added Graphic Novels, I suppose that opens the door to some comic characters and the only one worth of mention aside from Cal McDonald, and in lieu of him, John "Hellblazer" Constatine, would be Frank Castle aka The Punisher.

My league for the modern era as it stands

Cal McDonald (Criminal Macabre)- Occult Expert
Roland (Dark Tower Series) - Gunman (can pull characters from other periods)
Hannibla Lector (Silence of the Lambs and others) - genius
Carrie (Carrie) - Psionicist
James Bond (many books) - Spy
Louis (Interview with a Vampire) - Vampire


I would also like to ask if there was a league around the 1920's what would you suggest

Young Indiana Jones
Tarzan
Roland (again which pulls in a sort of my out of time character Ichabob Crane bound to the horseman)
I still need that elsive magician
perhaps Dick Tracy


regards all
 
 
Jack Fear
13:10 / 04.03.04
I still need that elsive magician

Look towards stage magicians, who still loomed large in the public consciousness and were boffo box office on the theatre circuit.

Best known fictional magician from the pop culture of the day would be Lee Falk's comic strip Mandrake--although he may have been early 1930s. And he was only one of many...
 
 
pachinko droog
18:30 / 04.03.04
The Phantom has been around for a while. Straight-up pulp hero transitioning to comics...And The Shadow from radio serials, of course.
 
 
quinine92001
22:12 / 04.03.04
Walter B Gibson- Pulp Fiction writer and stage magician and also the Shadow, possible chaos magician
Golden Child-From the Golden Child guest appearance by Eddie Murphy
John McClaine- Die Hard Fans shoot em up or David Dunne Unbreakable
Catherine Tremell-Basic Instinct
Danny Torrance -The Shining or kid from The Sixth Sense
Hannibal Lector controlling Memento Hero and imagining what everyone's livers will taste like with favva beans-great conflict between him and catherine
 
 
lukabeast
23:58 / 04.03.04
How about as villan "The Man Who fell To Earth", and James Bond as a secondary villan, and have Q as part of the League.

Other League members - Cabal (Clive barker), Lolita (grown up as a reluctant assassin such as "La Femme Nikita")Bob Arctor / Fred (A Scanner Darkly - PKD). The scientist from "Frankenstein Unbound", and "Firestarter" - Stephen King.
 
 
Ganesh
08:27 / 05.03.04
I reckon Tom Ripley would be a more capable team player than Patrick Bateman.
 
 
Jestocost
10:33 / 05.03.04
Titus Crow, but before he went and saved the whole damn Universe.
George Smiley, for sure.
Hannibal Lecter, another for sure.
Philip Marlowe, really old, on a wheelchair, and permanently cursing the rest like a drunk sailor. Or just permanently drunk.
Smilla Jaspersen, she's probably even a tougher cookie than Mina was.
 
 
bullet
00:18 / 06.03.04
I forgot about Tom Ripley, he'd be excellent too, course having a whole lead of evil geniuses might grow tiresome.
 
 
Ganesh
01:09 / 06.03.04
Ripley's not evil; just amoral...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:58 / 06.03.04
You'd have to juggle the dates here, but I think it'd be worth it.

And these are strictly from post-war literature - I've never thought about this before, but it's a bit thin on the ground in terms of strong characters, innit ? I mean the good stuff, you know, not fecking Anne Rice, Agatha " bollocks " Christie, or Douglas " for every one of these you read, it'll take you six extra months to lose yer virginity " Adams, etc.

Anyway

Patrick Bateman ( Of course ) - In the Captain Nemo role, the, well, somewhat distracted, moral centre of the group.

Holly Golightly ( Breakfast At Tiffany's ) - Still young somehow, as, among other things, the love interest for...

Dr Benway ( Naked Lunch ) - The Alan Quatermain figure

One of those rabbits from Watership Down - Doing Mr Hyde's job, possibly under the influence of one of Dr B's special treats.
" Goddamnit, I simply cannot operate unner these conditions. Here kid, roll up your sleeve... "

Inspector Morse ( all those terrible novels ) - In the Invisible Man role, he'd let everyone down, then get sliced up real tasty

God only knows what this lot would get up to, or even talk about really, but I'd buy it for sure.

And the villain would have to be Harry Potter, grown up, gone sick, and now just a shill for a large multinational media corp.
 
  

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