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Watchmen

 
  

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Benny the Ball
18:44 / 28.11.04
Not Martian Manhunter, but to give you all an idea of the quality of that JLA TV movie;

 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
19:35 / 28.11.04
Well you stay home and snuggle your comic, I'd be more than happy with that.
 
 
Billuccho!
22:05 / 28.11.04
David Ogden Stiers is a bit too old and paunchy for Manhattan. The voice is pretty good, though.

I could see Turquoise Lantern up there as the guy who gets his face caved in by Veidt, though.
 
 
PatrickMM
01:09 / 29.11.04
On V For Vendetta, I don't think it's dated at all, or at least no more dated than 1984 or Brazil. While it may have been about a specific time in Britain, the themes under discussion are as relevant now, what with the government using terrorism as an excuse to increase its power. I think V is more likely to be a great film than Watchmen. First, it's got a really strong main character, rather than the ensemble Watchmen, and it's not as caught up in comics mythology. It's more of a universal story.
 
 
Bed Head
01:32 / 29.11.04
I’d rather see V For Vendetta as a stage musical. Why do the comic fans always want movies when doing this pointless speculation stuff? They usually turn out to be completely rubbish. But V could be brilliant onstage. It would fit the theatricality of the source material, you could be adventurous! and uncompromising! with the terrorism angle in all sorts of ways that a $200 million investment might just hamper, and you’d probably get better actors involved. Or a least *one* who wouldn’t mind too much if he never got to take his mask off.



...God, yes. It’s so clear to me now. Mark Rylance for Judge Dredd.
 
 
eye landed
22:06 / 02.12.04
it should be ~4 hours long and hand animated. ralph bashki style.

somebody needs to make a comic book movie that looks like a comic book. even better if the animation is ultralow quality like an 80s saturday cartoon. but with trippy holographic effects and cheap scene-transitions like nah nah nah nah batman.
 
 
gridley
01:33 / 04.12.04
somebody needs to make a comic book movie that looks like a comic book. even better if the animation is ultralow quality like an 80s saturday cartoon.

When Nickelodeon first started and didn't have much original programming, they used to have this show where a guy would read old silver age DC comic books while the camera zoomed in and out on the panels dramatically. It must have cost them like $50 per episodes. Needless to say, I loved it.
 
 
Benny the Ball
05:21 / 04.12.04
Like the old Marvel animated series (Hulk and Cap) where they would just cut out pictures and have them jump about on bits of card not moving at all, except for the eyes, great!

Sidenote in this months Total Film they tell us that Aranofsky is off the Watchmen project, but they list it as Frank Miller's Watchmen... lazy bastards, just look on Amazon or anywhere.
 
 
Brigade du jour
09:49 / 04.12.04
Dicks. Bet their favourite book is Tess Of The D'Urbervilles by Charles Dickens.
 
 
CameronStewart
02:09 / 10.02.05
I have to admit...I never in my life thought I would actually see this.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
02:49 / 10.02.05
whoa. that's kind of nutso. they seem to be serious. let's hope they have their heads screwed on right...

except...wait...is that a PARAMOUNT logo? Oh, crap.
 
 
Benny the Ball
03:10 / 10.02.05
They have started the prep design work at Pinewood - still very early stage stuff, but people are definately working on it now.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
06:55 / 10.02.05
Like that JLA movie. That was great.

Not a fucking patch on Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD, though.
 
 
Brigade du jour
23:15 / 11.02.05
Can't go wrong with a cigar-chompin' Hasselhoff, defendin' the free worl'.
 
 
Hieronymus
18:51 / 16.03.05
Great interview with Paul Greengrass

Personally I think this is in very good hands.
 
 
_Boboss
08:20 / 17.03.05
he wrote spycatcher? that's odd, and rather reassuring.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
11:14 / 17.03.05
Never thought I'd say this, but from the interview it sounds as though this film could turn out decently. Very unusual to have a director so apparently sensitive to the needs and expectations of the original comic's fan community.
 
 
Hieronymus
02:03 / 30.03.05
Wow. Can it be true? Hayter's script tries to capture everything?
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
17:13 / 31.03.05
I feel what'll be most interesting is how - if at all - the obvious 9/11 factor is considered in the movie.

Watchmen is basically a meditation on the Cold War absurdity and lunacy of the behind-the-scenes players who now hold high office in the USA - the Wolfowitzes, Cheneys and Rumsfelds etc. - and Ozymandias' ploy to resolve matters is a distilled version of the very doctrine they all rabidly adhere to - the political philosophy of Leo Strauss

9/11 conspiracy theory typically portrays the present Administration as a sort of parochial Ozymandias, galvanising the US (rather than the whole world) against a common enemy, which requires complete co-operation and support of 'each other' to defeat...Rambling post, but I'm intrigued as to how, if at all, the 9/11 issue is approached within the film (coming many years after the book - in the interview, the subject of Nixon remaiing as President is addressed, and it is made clear that the political dimension of the movie will *probably* have to be updated).

Unless, of course, it is filmed as a 'period' piece, which would make sense in some ways, but be less interesting and challenging in others.
 
 
PatrickMM
02:01 / 01.04.05
This article mentions the fact that they have "reference photos of 9/11" at the preproduction office, which means they probably won't be shying away from parallels. The more I read about this project, the more excited I am. It's impossible to match the book's structural genius, but approaching it from a political standpoint looks like the best way to make a film that is relevant to the world today. If they're filming in July, we should start hearing about casting pretty soon, I can't wait.
 
 
PatrickMM
02:14 / 01.04.05
"Most importantly, Hayter cuts out most of the incidental characters, or whittles their roles to the bare minimum. Rorschach’s prisoner psychiatrist is in the film, but his wife and home life problems are not. We get a glimpse of the newsstand and the comic reading kid (no real pirate comic content, though), but they’re more cameos than anything."

Ah! The two Bernards and the whole streetlife business is essential to making the ending work. Hopefully this is the case of where it'll be a developed visual motif that isn't written, because if you don't care about those characters who die, the whole moral question at the end is so much simpler. As Stalin said, "One death is a tragedy, a thousand deaths is a statistic," and if you don't know the people who die, it's much tougher to understand Rorshach's point. I was really conflicted at the end of the book because in theory Manhattan is right, but so many characters I knew died, that can't stand.

But, the fact that the rest seems to be intact is a good sign. Without the pirate comic, it would be tough to fit in scenes with the Bernards, and they wouldn't have any sort of direct purpose, and when you're trying to adapt a work this dense, scenes with no direct purpose probably have to go.
 
 
Benny the Ball
12:15 / 04.04.05
Word on the street is that this has hit a snag, finding itself £10m short on the projected budget...

watch this space.
 
 
■
09:32 / 07.06.05
It's dead! Huzzah!
 
 
■
09:36 / 07.06.05
Actually, I'd better explain that. I realise that some of you were getting excited and interested, and it could have turned out fairly well, but if Terry Gilliam decided it was a bad idea to film Watchmen, then I go along with that. Watchmen uses the comic form so well that I just don't see why it needs to be cheapened with a film. Just leave it alone.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
11:35 / 07.06.05
Which would be fine if that was the reason for pulling the plug, but as the article points out, it isn't. So it may still grow legs.

Huzzooh.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
10:07 / 09.06.05
I want to see Watchmen cheapened. I like milking sacred cows.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
14:27 / 27.03.06
The next chapter in the Watchmen movie: some guy you've never heard of.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
14:41 / 27.03.06
I’ve heard there are some revisions underway to really fine-tune the various Hayter drafts and make sure that what ends up onscreen is the most perfect realization of Moore’s book possible. I’m hoping I can work something out where I can track down the new writer and talk with him about the work he’s doing, because I know how important this book is to so many of you. Zack Snyder said the same thing about it to me, talking about the responsibility of bringing something like WATCHMEN to life. “If I screw up 300, that would be heartbreaking, but ultimately, it’s not as well known a property. If you get WATCHMEN wrong... well...”
He didn’t have to finish the sentence...


If you get Watchmen 'wrong', the proportion of people who are going to care about it is tiny, powerless and insignificant compared to the number of people who will go to see it because they heard it was a superhero movie adapted from a 'cult graphic novel' and somehow related to V For Vendetta. This idea that the person who directs Watchmen is going to be carrying a golden egg on a precarious platter is nonsense, in anything apart from minority, fan terms. Comic book fans do not matter to film producers.
 
 
sleazenation
14:55 / 27.03.06
But there are so many things that don't matter to film producers... most often, it seems, films...
 
 
eddie thirteen
00:53 / 28.03.06
The glowing Pollyanna-ish positivity from the man who, if I'm not mistaken, raved about Daredevil for months before its release, is not necessarily heartening. Nor is the uncharacteristically snarky dismissal of the notion that the adaptation would work better as a miniseries, which frankly is an idea that makes perfect sense: the comic is about four hundred pages long and features dozens of characters and around the same number of subplots. I can see, though, how the taste-challenged might prefer a popcorn movie to an HBO dramatic series. Anyway, I want to type something like "it's not like the director of Dawn of the Dead is a worst-case scenario," because I kinda liked the Dawn of the Dead remake, but...you know, actually, when I put it down in cold print, that does sound like a worst-case scenario. But it's hard to get worked up over it when it seems no force on earth can get this movie made anyhow; it's kinda comical at this point.
 
  

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