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X-Book Renovations

 
  

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doyoufeelloved
04:17 / 11.12.03
Warren Ellis just sent a message to his mailing list called "X-Thing," in which he completely and thoroughly denied that he's the NEW X-MEN replacement, which should surprise nobody. He called his time on EXCALIBUR, working for the X-Office, one of the worst experiences he's ever had working in comics.

Much to my surprise, however, he then went on to prove that he might actually have done lovely things with the book -- or at the VERY least, that he would've continued following Grant's concepts (though he says he "only read a few issues" of Grant's run) -- by including a fragment of an introductory speech he would've written for Emma Frost. I dunno what the legality/morality of reprinting the whole thing here would be, but if people who aren't on his list are actually interested then I'll bang some up; it is, at the least, intriguing -- it's packed full of his pet obsessions (body modification, clipped phrasing, etc.) but does suit the character and the book.

And having watched a few episodes of BUFFY I'd never seen before on DVD tonight, I say hell, bring on the Whedon. If he fucks it up I'll just stop reading; it was painful to do so the first time but then again, I was seventeen and everything's painful then.
 
 
diz
06:32 / 11.12.03
I think this is a great plan, actually. You get Classic X-Men, and New X-Men, and no awkward third title and no Claremont. Essentially, they seem to be ditching what has been Uncanny X-Men, which hasn't made sense for three or four years now. Thank god.

well, i was with you up until Chris Claremont told me and a few other people we were wrong over at comixfan today. he claims he is writing three X-books total, including keeping both XXM and UXM at the same time.

i think he's either pathetically out of the loop or totally full of shit, personally, but hey. my guess is that his "three books" will be UXM and two limited series or something. but we'll see.
 
 
biollante
20:43 / 11.12.03
I bet those 3 books will be Uncanny, X-Treme (I guess), and X-Men the End. Claremont will be doing X-Men The End as a supposedly 16 issue mini. Artist Sean Chen- I think it was- talked about the project a little while ago on Comics Coninuum. He said it was 16 issues and then joked that it may become an ongoing.
 
 
superdonkey
13:45 / 28.12.03
ADD apparently has the scoop that several here suspected already: Joss Whedon is the guy set to write New X-Men. With John Cassaday on art.

Which I would probably actually pick up, at least long enough to see if it was worth reading. But since he also says that if the news gets out before marvel's ready to release it, the project is likely to be scrapped, who knows if we'll actually be able to read it?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
18:11 / 28.12.03
Since I was already set in with Joss Whedon being the most likely writer, I can now be happy about John Cassaday. That's a good pick. This should be pretty good. I'm just hoping that Joss adds Nightcrawler and Kitty to his cast, and keeps Henry, Scott, Emma, and Beak in New X-Men.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
18:23 / 28.12.03
Also, Marvel and Whedon are totally fucking insane:

What I've learned is that neither Marvel nor Joss Whedon want this news to become public knowledge outside the industry. I'm told that Whedon's existing TV contracts forbid him to sign the type of deal with Marvel that he's apparently agreed to, and the fear within Marvel is that if Whedon's deal goes public, his New X-Men run will be aborted before it begins.

This isn't going to happen. As soon as this comes out, it'll be in Entertainment Weekly and then it'll be a big legal mess. They can't possibly keep it that quiet. I can't believe they are gambling this. I hope Whedon has a good lawyer, because he's so going to be sued for breach-of-contract.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
18:24 / 28.12.03
The story says that Marvel is expecting the New X-Men to sell 300,000 copies a month.

Which was the funniest thing I have read all month. Jim Lee's Batman sold around 150,000 a month until the last 3 cover issue, which sold about 50% more.

300K? With comics shops doing things? I'm thinking....no. NO way.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
19:21 / 28.12.03
Well, in addition to that projected sales figure being absurdly high given the current comics market, how on earth were they planning to keep what would be the #1 comic in the traditional comics market a secret from an entertainment industry which has been cherry-picking the comics industry for its own projects for the past several years? I mean, The Losers has all kinds of Hollywood buzz, and that doesn't sell one tenth the numbers that they are projecting for Whedon NXM.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
20:18 / 28.12.03
I suspect the "Whedon is trying to keep this a secret from his corporate masters" angle has as much veracity to it as my going home to make savage love to George Clooney. It sounds exactly like the sort of muddled thinking that would come from any number of non-thinking internet rumor mongers or fanboys.
 
 
Bed Head
21:10 / 28.12.03
Yeah! Those idiots!
 
 
FinderWolf
01:24 / 29.12.03
Weird. How could Marvel or Joss (if this is true) possibly think the story wouldn't get out? This sounds fishy to me, as anyone with a brain would know that the story WOULD get out.
 
 
Ethan Van Sciver
02:04 / 29.12.03
The Joss Whedon rumor isn't true. I started it on Millarworld to be a dick, and for that, I'm sorry.
 
 
diz
03:34 / 29.12.03
The Joss Whedon rumor isn't true. I started it on Millarworld to be a dick, and for that, I'm sorry.

if this is true, you're a fucking genius, Ethan.
 
 
Mike-O
07:37 / 29.12.03
Or you cuold be shitting us now, too, Eth. But hey man, if that were true and you were willing to take a bullet for the integrity of NXM... you're a standup guy, moreso than you are already an that's sayin something. Personally I say who gives a shit who the writer is right now... take it as it comes, and let the ball roll at its own pace. I'm sure JQ knows his shit enough to make a good decision.

Ethan it would be super-cool if you ever came back to New X-Men. You're part of what made that book so outstanding to begin with man, so it'd be awesome if you made it back for the new direction.
 
 
doctorbeck
07:39 / 29.12.03
especially if as a result of your rumour *it becomes true*

you may have just developed a super power
anyway i'm thinking buffy ended on bbc THE SAME WEEK that planet x ended, coincidence? i don't think so


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Rawk'n'Roll
08:19 / 29.12.03
Ethan that is either brilliant or stupid. Probably a bit of both.
I don't believe you for a minute though.
Millar started the rumour on Millarworld anyway.
 
 
Ethan Van Sciver
16:48 / 29.12.03
It isn't genius, but it is stupid. And no, Mark Millar did NOT start the rumor. The rumor, which I was helping to spread, was that it was Gaiman. When Gaiman did his press release about 'no way, no how was he writing X-men", on the very same thread, I said that Neil could be lying...or it could be Joss Whedon. Perhaps I even used a winky face.

The whole myth started at that point. People thought I was still connected, and that I was spilling the beans. None of that was true. I was just being a dope.

T'would be funny however, if the rumor caused the idea to go after Whedon, which led to his becoming the new writer.

It would be a quiet kind of funny though, because this book is over without Grant Morrison. He was the battery.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
16:54 / 29.12.03
I'm sure JQ knows his shit enough to make a good decision.

Dude, they've had Chuck Austen on Uncanny for over a year now. I don't trust these people at all re: making the right decisions about who is writing the stories.

If what Ethan says is true, I'm starting to wonder if Marvel has actually hired anyone at all for this job.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:00 / 29.12.03
That is....unless...





they've hired Chuck Palahniuk!
 
 
Mike-O
17:16 / 29.12.03
Good point, man. I almost was blissfully gifted enough to forget about "The Chuck" - Marvel's new writing "entity" it-boy for 2003. Bagh.
 
 
Bed Head
17:18 / 29.12.03
they've hired Chuck Palahniuk!

Fuck. That's bloody brilliant. If only.

I'm going to start a rumour they've hired Flux already. I mean, just think about it, it'd make perfect sense...

Matthew, just don't turn out to be the new Rachel Pollock.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
17:54 / 29.12.03
they've hired Chuck Palahniuk!

"I know this because Xorn knows this."
 
 
FinderWolf
18:04 / 29.12.03
When will they just announce it already and clear all this nonsense up??? Grant only has 4 more issues, then 2 Chuck Austen fill-in issues. Isn't it time yet??
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
19:57 / 29.12.03
Well, in X-Book Renovations news that is actually real, the writing schedule for Ultimate X-Men has been announced. Brian K. Vaugn will write a few issues after Bendis' interim run is complete, and then David Mack will be the new full-time writer for the forseeable future. I know next to nothing about Mack aside from the whole "water color Native American plotless Daredevil" thing. Sounds like they made....well, a horrible choice. But hey, who really gives a fuck about Ultimate X-Men anyway?
 
 
Ethan Van Sciver
20:17 / 29.12.03
I give a fuck about Ultima---oh, wait. No I don't.

Chuck Pal on X-MEN would be fine, but I'd rather see him do something like Spiderman instead. He's great with single desperate 'hero' types. I don't think he'd have fun with the ensemble cast, nor do I think he'd have anything very interesting to say about bigotry, as is necessary with X-MEN. But by all means, PLEASE get this fellow into comics!

Seriously, the new NEW X-MEN writer is David Mamet. See how big this has become? Announcing Mark Waid just doesn't do it anymore.
 
 
Bed Head
20:31 / 29.12.03
Okay, I'm still not entirely convinced it’s not going to be Matthew, but while we're on American literary heavyweight-types, how’s about Gore Vidal writing New X-Men? Can't you just see it?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
21:09 / 29.12.03
Ha, it SHOULD be Waid! He should be forever fated to follow-up Grant's superhero series.

Some of the people on the X-Fan site are speculating that Brian K Vaughn is going to write NXM, and that his four issue thing on Ultimate is a warm-up. I don't think so, though. I get the feeling that they want a Big Name Writer, and Vaughn is best known for Y The Last Man, which isn't exactly huge.

Oh fuck it. They should just give it to Rachel Pollock and let it be totally incomprehensible mush about the Phoenix being a manifestation of Jean's menstrual cycle.
 
 
Rawk'n'Roll
21:42 / 29.12.03
Vaughn was rumoured for ages aswell but mostly as someone people would like to see do it, not someone that was likely.
I think he'll stop at Ult X, its more his style.

Even tho Ethan is sure (I'm not mentioning how long ago I mentioned that Joss was the only writer who'd possibly get me to carry on reading X-men, oh no, not me)its all down to him (which is quite possible considering) I still think he's the most viable. Big name, can write an ensemble cast very well, will bring in new readers, can create a media buzz. All these things are desired by Marvel... but can they get him to ship on time?
Between him and the proposed artist I think we may be seeing an issue a year. The hell with it why not just make the book super sized and call it an annual?
Oh how old school!
 
 
Ethan Van Sciver
21:44 / 29.12.03
Joseph Smith was visited by God and he told him to go dig up some golden tablets and translate them. They contain the next NEW X-MEN story arc, which was written by Jesus Christ himself. Almost as good as Grant Morrison, but much better than Alan Moore.
 
 
bio k9
22:45 / 29.12.03
Maybe they should just leave all the caption boxes and word bubbles blank so we can write it ourselves.
 
 
diz
23:58 / 29.12.03
Maybe they should just leave all the caption boxes and word bubbles blank so we can write it ourselves.

no, it would end up like Mad Libs always end up. you know:

"Professor POOP, I think that we should call this new mutant BOOGERSNOT, since he has very DIRTY powers which are also very PURPLE VAGINAS."
 
 
Bed Head
00:16 / 30.12.03
Jack Kirby, writing his scripts via a ouija board. Frank Miller’s going to draw it. It’s going to be fucking great. In fact, it’s positively the only team that would make me consider retaining this title once Grant’s run is over and done with.

Unless...

Ethan, you’re, er, ‘down’ with those Marvel editorial bigwigs, aren’t you? You could put in a good word for Matthew. He’d be a natural. It’d be a beautiful solution to this problem, those Bullpen fools just don’t know it yet.
 
 
moriarty
01:00 / 30.12.03
I saw a joke prediction that said it was going to be Danielle Steel.

And for just a second I thought I would be picking up a Marvel title again.
 
 
A
01:04 / 30.12.03
My sources tell me it's being written by Ayn Rand. Seriously. Freddy Prinze Jr. on pencils, too.
 
 
moriarty
02:38 / 30.12.03
Forget about Prinze. Get Ditko.
 
  

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