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Silvestri on New X-men... (Spoilage)

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10:42 / 13.10.03

As I've said above, portable Cerebras are a fairly obvious extension of the concept. Just the sort of thing I expect to see from Grant.

I am still bugged by that sentinel, however.

07:29 / 14.10.03

The more I think about it, though, the more it makes sense. Why else would this beat-up, outdated, ol' sentinel be hanging around unless it was one of the good guys' trademarks? And every time the guy with the helmet appears in the promo illo's it's with the sentinel. And if you're gonna have such a character why not make him the same as the protaganist in the Sentinel series? I'm sure his creator wouldn't mind; it's a new series and could use all the publicity it could get and what better publicity could one hope for than someone like Grant Morrison using your creation? And beyond the mere technical shit, the beautiful poetic irony of one of the last hopes for the mutant race being someone whose only "superpower" is his control of a machine originally invented to capture and kill mutants makes me all warm and giggly inside.

Ohhh. Never mind.

I guess I just love it when Mr. Morrison plays with other people's toys. It's like how you used your StarWars toys to make Boba Fett beat the shit out of Darth Vader, only with better dialogue . . .

09:43 / 14.10.03

I know what you're saying mate. Bearing in mind the issue of future analogues, it just, well, makes sense.

Q: What's that sentinel doing there, hanging out with the mutants?

A: What do you think? He's the sentinel from the comic. A bit more beaten up, maybe, but the sentinel just the same. I mean, c'mon, we've got all these other x-analogues running around - future versions of the x-men - surely it's the obvious answer.

Anyway, that's the thinking I can't get out of my head.

12:39 / 14.10.03

It's been reiterated many times here, but I'll say it again: that kid is NOT the kid from Sentinel. Morrison, as stated on his website, finished the scripts up to #152 over a year ago, long before the kid (Juston) and his robot debuted in Sentinel.

And if Morrison did create him as far back as then, then it would've been credited in each issue of Sentinel in the last few months.

Regards,

Petar

17:45 / 14.10.03

In other interviews Morrisson also contradicted that statement, and he's been known to tweak scripts at the last minute (the scene with Wolverine at the beginning of Ethan Van's last issue comes to mind, although that was a post-art script tweak...).

I doubt the kid from Sentinel would live 180+ years, but it certainly seems analagous. It's also possible that Gm just coincidentally liked the idea of A Boy And His Sentinel and used it without ever knowing about the other series.

I wouldn't mind a Sentinel of my own, now that I think about it...

20:59 / 14.10.03

Look, Petar, sorry mate, I'd really appreciate it if you wouldn't speak to me like I'm an idiot.

LDones important point regarding contradiction aside.

Have you read through this thread? I've already argued that a work isn't complete until it is published. Changes can and do take place every bloody day of the week, even on, gasp, Grant Morrison's work. These changes can emanate from a number of sources, the author himself, the editor, interaction with the artist, etc bloody etc...
If some Marvel big wig gets it into his head that Sentinel could do with a boost, Morrison might be asked to incorporate the concept into his final arc? What a cerrazzy idea! Good God, I can imagine a zillion billion scenarios that could get Sentinel into the pages of NXM.

And, I repeat for the umpteenth fucking time, I'm not saying the kid is the boy from Sentinel, just that he may, just may, perhaps, be analogous.

See how I qualified that last sentence?

03:50 / 15.10.03

I think I'm the only guy who read that last volume of "What If" comics, but Sentinel and the boy master was actually done in a "What If" comic years before the new Sentinel/Boy series came out. Cannonball's younger long haired grunge rock brother found a Sentinel and somehow programmed him to do what he wanted. So maybe he's borrowing from that story.

I tried to do a search on Google for the cover of this old issue but had no luck.

gotham island fae

04:41 / 15.10.03

Holy Bat-crap, yes.

I remember that. When I was working at the comic store.

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So, is it silly to recognize the eye-blast portion of the Cy-Nigh-Gel-Beasts to be of Summers gene origin? And the Dark Beast's 'Crawler tail?

And positing that Apocalypse is a part of tomorrow's coming? Through Scott's now immortal body? [Last is absolute conjecture.]

06:38 / 15.10.03

Boboss, no-one here thinks you're an idiot, just because someone like myself offers you alternative information to what you had in your head. Good to hear you see the boy and his sentinel as simply a possible analogue. I won't say anymore til #151 comes out

Regards,

Petar

08:42 / 15.10.03

Sorry. I did come on a bit strong.
It's just that you weren't offering me alternative info. I'd already dealt with the rewriting question upthread. Whilst I appreciate that Morrison could have completed his run on NXM aeons ago, I find it very hard to believe (although I suppose it remains within the boundaries of possibility) that the work has remained sacrosanct over the last twelve months. Now, as to the degree of rewriting required, well, it could have been as little as a few pages, or it could have been more significant. Who knows? I sure as buggery don't.

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