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The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Volume 2 Number 6

 
  

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Bastard Shit Man
13:11 / 12.09.03
A separate thread for #6, then.

In memory of the noble and patriotic Mr. Hyde.

He’s kind of like Jesus, really, when you think about it.

>cholmpf! cholmpf!<
 
 
_Boboss
13:41 / 12.09.03
welcome to england

i'm getting lots of political references from moore at the moment, more than at any time since V really, but subtly bound in with the greater fabric of his storywear. the martian's an asylum seeker being introduced to british gentry, and nemo who takes the principled stand against wmd. my rupert the bear knowledge fails me though - did he ever meet up with a gypsy woman in any of his adventures? i'd rather not know, if he did.

but frankenstein's happy retirement and santa's pitiful state were the highlights for me.
 
 
Catjerome
14:37 / 12.09.03
Hyde: "I'll eat you!" ... and he did!

Not so sure if I like the very end ... it was a bit abrupt. But I can't think of a better way to end it. In Vol.1 it was easier because they could set up the cliffhanger.
 
 
Mr Tricks
15:34 / 12.09.03
I can't help but feel that the "stout" Gypsy woman who was also a grandmother is a reference to something . . .
 
 
Hieronymus
16:24 / 12.09.03
Paging Mr. Nevins. Mr Nevins to the white courtesy phone.
 
 
Spaniel
16:52 / 12.09.03
I can't help but feel that the "stout" Gypsy woman who was also a grandmother is a reference to something . . .

But of course.

For anyone who didn't hear me the first time, Hyde dancing off to his doom. Fucking, fucking fantastic.

Also, Look at how effortlessly Kev turns the Martians from uberthreat to terrified, cute ,"wuh wa?" aliens when faced with the sheer scale of Hyde's evil.

Hyde really has been the superstar of this volume.
 
 
FinderWolf
18:22 / 12.09.03
Um, Frankenstein and Santa? Did I miss something here? (I probably did)

And also, Bobossboy, you know who the gypsy grandmother is? Do tell!
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
18:48 / 12.09.03
density.

swat you need.

swat o'neill has. those panels are sooooooooo informartion rich man!!!

O'neils work on this volume is amoungnst the best comic book art I have ever seen.

Unlike anything else.

Lost for words actually.

Yeah k23, Moore's politicised once more. Promeathea Iraq stuff and the things you pointed out in this one.

Also, he wrote some essay recently which attempted to untangle all the nefarious shit around the war on terror. canny mind wherr i saw it but.

ending was abrupt.

but that reminded me of the war of worlds film.

Hyde sequence was fuckin amazing. Felt Moore channelling Euro 2000 wiv all that shit. Yes - Hyde's performance in this series and in this issue in particular is down as a comic book clssic.

Didn't Quatermain seem especially pathetic today? He hardly said a word. so utterly the unequal of Mina.

Wasn't Bond cool?

And the lovely twist with the flu - it always DID seem far fetched.

YOSSS!!! Good Comic. YOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
 
 
Tryphena Absent
22:39 / 12.09.03
*snigger* that was Peter Rabbit on the first page being all eaten up, wasn't it?
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:04 / 12.09.03
*snigger* that was Peter Rabbit on the first page being all eaten up, wasn't it?

By foxes no less... might it have been the white rabbit? I don't recall a clock.

So anyone have any thought on who the gypsy might have been?
 
 
Ganesh
23:17 / 12.09.03
It was definitely Peter Rabbit being scoffed. The gypsy? Erm... Old Mother Hubbard? Red Riding Hood's grandmother?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:45 / 12.09.03
Oh, you young people.

The schoolkids issue of Oz featured a drawing of a priapic Rupert the Bear attempting to copulate with Gypsy Granny. There was quite a famous trial about it. Moore is being a nostalgic old hippy.
 
 
moriarty
02:15 / 13.09.03
Anyway, this issue, it turns out that Allan Quartermain has actually been Count Dracula all along! There were lots of clues, you know.

No, I didn't know. In fact, I was going to wait until the collected edition to find out. Normally I avoid League threads to avoid spoilers, but seeing as this one is in the topic abstract, I guess it was kind of unavoidable.

I hope you were joking. And whether you were or weren't, could a moderator get rid of it, please?
 
 
moriarty
03:21 / 13.09.03
Ha fucking ha.
 
 
the Fool
07:55 / 13.09.03
I thought the arrival of the masonic train and secret army was interesting. They were more sinister than the martian invaders, methinks.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:04 / 13.09.03
No, there is no Quartermain/Dracula thing, it was totally a joke, and no, the moderator doesn't need to remove it. you're safe, moriarity, except this is clearly a spoiler-ridden thread.
 
 
_Boboss
09:13 / 14.09.03
the bits at the end? there's fewer pictures but well worth a read. HOL-idays are comin, HOL-idays are comin
 
 
Porn Star Justice
16:18 / 14.09.03

> Um, Frankenstein and Santa? Did I miss something here? (I probably did)

It's in the text bits at the end of the issue. It usually takes me a while to get around to reading it, too.

The Coca Cola Polar Bears make an appearance as well.
 
 
DaveBCooper
09:20 / 15.09.03
Am I the first to spot that the speech bubble where Hyde’s talking to the Martian, which we see from the Martian’s point of view (as it were), is just mirror-writing in a rather stylised script ? I’m not gonna tell you what it says, it’d spoil the fun.
Do I win a Know-Prize ?
 
 
Spaniel
10:33 / 15.09.03
Do I win a Know-Prize

Ooh, well done. It's in the mail.

By the by, and really not asking out of pedantry, isn't it a "no-prize"? I can't remember.
 
 
DaveBCooper
11:08 / 15.09.03
Yep, it would be, but as it's not a Marvel book, I kinda thought...
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
11:20 / 15.09.03
Why doesn't Allan Quatermain have any legs in the final panel?
 
 
sleazenation
11:27 / 15.09.03
dave b- you might win a prize if that hadn't been worked out when that lettering first appeared in issue 1...
 
 
Spaniel
12:20 / 15.09.03
Mirror writing: I may be a twunce, but I've never noticed. Good, good, we revisit the volume afresh.

Yep, the no legs thing. Very odd.

Perhaps that's why Allan is so sad?
 
 
DaveBCooper
12:49 / 15.09.03
Sleaze : Consider me suitably ashamed and amashed.
I guess the problem was that I wasn’t reading the first issue on the bog with the bathroom mirror close by, only the latest. Damn my bowels, as irregular as the LOEG series itself.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:55 / 15.09.03
Ok, where is the mirror writing in the first volume? and thanks for mentioning this, I'd never heard about it. I hope it's the alien going "Holy shit" or something appropo like that.

And I read the back section and found the santa bit, but I seriously didn't find the Frankenstein reference. I do remember that in the novel, ol' Frank ends up in the arctic. Help!
 
 
Ganesh
23:21 / 15.09.03
Frankenstein's monster is Queen Olympia's consort.
 
 
Spaniel
09:47 / 16.09.03
Dave, you like to watch yourself take a dunny?

Back on topic people...
 
 
DaveBCooper
11:25 / 16.09.03
Oh, I don't like it - I mean, I'm not PROUD of it, but it's just one of my many vices (like topic derailing, so)...

On topic : I liked the issue, though it might have slightly suffered from a sense of us knowing what was coming : 'Allan and the Sundered Veil' in LOEG Vol 1 gave us the image of Hyde battling the tripod, and the original end of 'War of the Worlds' itself gave us more than a hint of what Moreau might have been working on (love the Wells connections - Griffin sells them out to the invaders, Moreau's creation wipes the invaders out).

Thinking about what Haus said about Moore's Oz reference, I think he also pointed to this in Big Numbers, where I seem to recall some line of dialogue about 'Rupert Bear with his thingy out'...
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:18 / 16.09.03
So anyone have any thought on who the gypsy might have been?

It certainly wasn't me.
 
 
gridley
14:51 / 16.09.03
Mr. Nevins says the gypsy woman is the mother of the werewolf that bites Larry Talbot in the Wolfman movie.
 
 
Ganesh
15:17 / 16.09.03
Hasn't Haus already explained Gypsy Granny?
 
 
FinderWolf
16:36 / 16.09.03
Anyone have a link to Jess Nevins' site/annotations for this issue?
 
 
Chill
19:26 / 16.09.03
Gypsy Granny may have been explained but she hasn't yet been shown. (censored, but still possibly not "Work Safe")
 
 
gridley
13:36 / 17.09.03
Nevins has now updated the gypsy woman reference.

issue 6 here
 
  

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