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Why did you get into magic?

 
  

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KnofC
19:49 / 02.09.03
i agree with ev, and LVX23. It added more colour, made things more interesting, and gave me some value in my life which sorely lacked a focal point.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
03:56 / 08.07.05
Came across this thread whilst doing a little housekeeping and thought it bore resurrecting.

Why did I get into magic personally? I don't recall. It's always been with me. I remember trying to get my Mum to buy me sweets in the supermarket by thinking about it really hard aged four or five; attempting to have an OOBE at eight (I didn't even know what it was called, I'd just theorised that if people had bodies and souls then the latter should be detachable from the former); my first forays into dowsing and fluff-wicca at ten, my first deck of Tarot cards at twelve, earnestly home-made cardboard runes at fourteen... much of what I did as a kid was a washout, as you'd expect, but I had enough odd little successes to keep me interested.

In my teens, magic became a way of coping with a world that seemed extremely inimical and threatening, a way of protecting and empowering myself. I also experienced a deep need for a spiritual aspect in my life, and magic helped with that, too. My spells worked about as well as you'd imagine from someone who'd garnered her knowledge from recycled book-club crap, but I did manage to make some progress.

As I grew older, the need for a little bit of leverage in the world did not diminish, but I began to look outward more--How could I use magic to help the people around me? Could it help me to be a better person, make my interactions with others more positive?

I can't pretend that I've always worked as hard as I could at my practice. Sometimes it's life that's got in the way, sometimes it's other people, sometimes it's laziness, sometimes it's fear. I regret that I haven't achieved more by now, and I'm acutely aware of how much more I need to do and to learn. This past year has brought some radical changes in my outlook and my way of working, and I hope that in time I can bring something useful out of all this.
 
 
eye landed
06:07 / 08.07.05
it was the word wild web. it gave me some tools and, more importantly, a label.

ive always been interested in fantasy as well as doing crazy shit in reality, but i was mostly into initiatory paths to power-- like science or money. it was molecular gurus and the internet that cured me of that.

id also like to thank d&d and many other rpgs, for a good grounding in mythology, metarealities, and method acting. and music and movies and science fiction and cartoons and everything else ive seen or done.

if theres a specific incident, my psyche is not deeming it healthy to fixate upon it right now.
 
 
power vacuums & pure moments
09:28 / 08.07.05
Blunt and to the point, I wanted power. I wanted to fuck people up with my mind like in scanners! Other motivations have developed over the years and its certainly not what directs my actions now, but its what motivated my early experiments. Some 2nd rate occult fiction, the 'Kundalini Equation' and Arthur Avalon's The Serpent Power aided my disastrous-but-necessary failed attempt to shortcut my way to becoming a master Siddhin. Needless to say i got a crash course in the value of right intent.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
18:36 / 08.07.05
curiosity, and an innate distrust of most of the "elders" who took it upon themselves to oversee my education.

much later, I was looking for a structure with which to animate some fictitious characters in hope of creating a novel manuscript (still in the works fwiw). Something echoed up from the deep well of my brain... "tree of life tree of life tree of life"

heard of it, didn't have the foggiest, so I looked into it. And discovered the kabbala, its relation to the tarot, astrology and the hebrew alphabet... there's also Yggdrasil (sp?). an the scientific tree of life, branches and branches of categories of all living things. and the Mayan creation myth involves a great tree from which all plants have grown.

and in the Pacific, many cultures see the trees with roots in the underworld, a trunk on our earthly plane, and leafy branches spreading across the heavens...

it took me a while of getting into all this before it occurred to me that this might wasn't what was referred to as magic - this was magic! (sfx: boing!)

and I enjoy messing with people's minds. not for kicks. not to upset anyone. just to shake them up a little.

what can I do? I had been worshipping Bugs Bunny, the 20th Century trickster figure since I was but a wee lad... only a matter of time before it all caught up to me again. and again. and again.

hugs
>pablo
 
 
Laughing
22:18 / 08.07.05
A lot of things encouraged my getting into magic - the Invisibles, the Principia, the Book of the SubGenius, various drug experiences, Mage: The Ascension, a complete distaste for the mundanity of everyday life, a desire for a deeper spirituality - but the true first cause for me, the core reason for my interest in magic was (and here's another one-liner):

I WANTED SUPER POWERS.
 
 
macha in pigtails
07:48 / 09.07.05
I was born into magick.

For my entire life it seemed like I had a second person crouching in the shadows of the back of my mind. or not.

No that isn't how to explain it.

I had this imaginary friend. He taught me things. He played with me and helped me learn things. He told me that WILL was a force that could be used to do things.

I can't talk about this, I feel like I sound totally insane.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:10 / 09.07.05
I think we all feel like that sometimes, macha. Personally I never let go of the awareness that this could still all be some kind of psychotic episode; sometimes that thought obsesses me to an alarming degree, but holding onto the doubt is actually healthy. Doubt is your ally in this.
 
 
Unconditional Love
14:38 / 09.07.05
well,

i started roleplaying when i was 8,9 or ten, before that i loved to sit in tree tops talking to trees and generally talked to everything, like most kids do i assume. i loved ninjas and making throwing stars and praying to chinese moon gods i must of been about 12 by then sitting with other kids on top of a local building with tea shirts wrapped around our heads leading a prayer to the chinese moon god from deities and demi gods to bless us before we went of to fight with another bunch of similar t shirt clad kids, we were carrying home made nunchuks and tin snipped ninja stars and lenghts of chain stolen from peoples gardens. thats kinda where my love of martial arts came from i guess.

as i got into heavy metal i discovered i could be really naughty by talking about stan alot and generally acting like a wee dark angst ridden teenager by about 15, so during r.e lessons id play up alot, they never let me do my exam on stanism, id discovered richard cavendishes black arts at that point.

introduce a friend who got me into goth at about 17 and hallucinogenic drugs, then role in the fields of the nephilim, shamanism, thelema, psychic t.v , crusty culture, lots and lots of acid, hash etc etc

a blur of a twenty something period, that was basically a never ending trip. dont recommend it by the way.

28, off into the darkness, serpent, being remade, panic ,terror. near death experience. totally empty, pieceing a self back together, grief at the loss of self id previously been.

seeing psychiatrists, and realising the medical model of mental health is absolute bullshit and all its institutions should be scraped entirely. finding kung fu and tai chi and finding these actually work, they actually allow me to cope with this new awareness, the atheist material medical model just says i am sick and hallucinated, fucking bollocking control freak wankers.

well since 28 all things spiritual have been shall we say, a reality, a constant companion. instructions to do this, to do that, to go here, to meet these people, a direct communication with spirits, attempts to pigeon hole the experience into one tradition or another seem to variously fail, and i am guessing what i am is best left naked rather than costumed.

where i find myself now is very magical, helping others to move on from dependecy on institutions, giving them power back, and encouraging them to fight against anything that disempowers them.
 
 
gravitybitch
19:29 / 09.07.05
Wanting to peek behind the curtain... It took me a while to figure out that not everybody knew there was a curtain, though.

"Superpowers" made me grin and nod a bit - I do want to fiddle with the buttons and knobs and levers behind that curtain, but it's not a necessity... (although, I have to admit that it's really nice to be relatively certain of getting a decent parking space when I trundle home in the wee hours!)

Yeah. I grew up knowing that there was more to it than plain old physical reality with its direct causality clauses, life was bigger than what my engineer dad thought it was; I was bigger than this. And the rest has been exercises in how to fit into that bigger life and how to keep getting bigger/deeper/brighter myself.
 
 
Seth
23:44 / 09.07.05
I grew up in a Charismatic Evangelical church and so have been practising most of my life, with some awesome teachers. My Dad's a prophet so most of this stuff has been pretty normal for me.

I started learning about shamanism from Lothar Tuppan on this site after some dream experiences a few years back. I'd had some vivid directional dreams since my late teenage years and did a lot of dreamwork and shamanic work, which was really a continuation of things I'd done naturally in my Christian practise (ecstatic drumming in church) and found the theoretical basis for much later.

Over the last few years my interest in dreaming became an interest in psychology, and so I did Practitioner and Master Practitioner courses through ITS in London on the recommendation of a practioner who does a lot of work with my Dad. I'm now extending this by learning as many other psychological models as I find interesting.

I tend to work on the basis of having experiences and needing to research to find out what has happened to me. I never really sought this stuff out in the main, it's just been present my entire life in one form or another. I'm mainly concerned with finding useful techniques to help myself and other people these days.
 
 
kiafi
23:34 / 15.05.08
I was raised hardcore Episcopalian, very WASP father, imprinted on me solidarity and non compromise in regard to worship. "Unless you have the PLAGUE you are going to church!" In retrospect I feel that this has made me rigid and armored in a lot of ways, but I also kind of dig it. Having to sit in an uncomfortable pew, kneeling on granite, the boring hymns, the elitist churchgoers; overall it strengthened my willpower(and spite,) both essential for magical initiation in such a circumstance.

I dug on the gnostic experience of it all, as well as the dark, powerful authority of the church. Communion was fucking awesome, what with the eating flesh and drinking port, I could feel the gnosis and I became an addict to it. Even though I was in an Episcopalian mindset I didn't seem to fixate on the same restrictions that other peoples of that kind seem to have. I was obsessed with the idea of magic as a concept, as an aesthetic, and the fact that I just knew it worked, I just knew from having gnosis and the spark that told me there was something more.

I explored around on my own from middle school or so, and all I could really find was crappy public library books on witchcraft, occasional deals involving quartz crystals and broomsticks, it was cool but not powerful or interesting to me, and I felt pretty unfulfilled up until I was 14, when I went on a trip to Hollywood to catch up with my estranged brother.

He, at it had turned out, been very involved with the IOT, OTO, TOPY, etc. and basically had every experience that I wished I had endured during my early years. He showed me pictures of him with Tim Leary and america Hoffman, told tales of him befriending El Duce from The Mentors and all sorts of crazy shit. During these 2 weeks I absorbed, prominent among many other things; 'Liber Null & Psychonaut', 'A Clockwork Orange', EXIT Magazine, Crowley, Austin Osman Spare, and more.

That started things off nicely, planted seeds, got the wheels moving, I did so many sigils that it hurts to think about, started reading Robert Anton Wilson and Chris Hyatt, got into -some- Crowley and lots of Regardie. And then the music, god, I could go on, Coil, Death in June, Aphex Twin, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, PTV, Nurse With Wound, and more and more and more.

So I just sucked in media and symbolism and pumped out magic and tried to effect change in my life, which at the time was very depressing. Around 15-16 I had my first psychedelic experience with mushrooms, which I had grown myself, and it was everything I wanted it to be. Months later, I ate over 8 grams of Ecuadorian strain in tea that I had grown in my closet living with my parents(hah,) and thats when I had what I consider to be my first huge, initiatory experience. My bunk bed turned into a sarcophagus and I had a very intense, 'solar' experience where I honestly don't remember much besides melting into nothingness and coming back in pieces, being very aware that I had merged with -something-, I 'knew' that it was Ra when it happened, I can in retrospect also interpret this as a sort of HGA/VALIS/Cosmic Placenta dealie, but whatever the fuck it was it steered me right on the path and I've been doing justice to that work and that goal as much as I can ever since.
 
 
EmberLeo
07:11 / 16.05.08
Huh... is thread merging appropriate here? We seem to have two of these active now...

--Ember--
 
 
illmatic
08:28 / 16.05.08
Like most thiings on Barbelith, it may be appropriate but it isn't technically possible.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:54 / 16.05.08
We can lock and link. I'll get on it.

Link to older topic
 
  

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