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I wanna make contact with aliens

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18:04 / 26.08.03

There you go, I suppose now you wanna contact teenage mutant ninja turtles.

So, Varis08, did your interest drop or what?

18:31 / 26.08.03

all i asked was a simple question, and i got no answer. just, mainly, people on about X-File abductions. all i wanted was a pointer to the works of Crowley and Wilson in reference to 'alien' contact.
i have begun to cry.
maybe 'cause i can't get mi hands on any DMT.

18:32 / 26.08.03

MAo wrote:

There're people who reckon that the Holy Guardian Angel, rather than being a product of your own kia, is an external being. In which case, I'd count that as an alien.

Yeah, Crowley himself waffled between the two and never really seemed to settle on one or the other. Kenneth Grant took the HGA to be an external entity and attributes it to the Sirius star system, as many others have done with seemingly benevolent "alien" entitites.

Varis, read Cosmic Trigger 1 by RAW, then check out The Starseed Transmissions. If you can find any books by Kenneth Grant, read those as well. And Crowley's stuff, if followed with disclipline, will certainly put you into contact with "entities" but, as has been mentioned, it's difficult to determine just where these entities are from...

C23

00:05 / 27.08.03

in some thread I have already said similar things regarding the "real" existence of extraterrestrials, the holy guardiuan angel, in short all entities out there..... in context with "entitiy contact" via unconventional means...(conventional means : seeing a ufo somehwere and getting on board and chatting with aliens, everything in this 3 dimensional realm. this experience would defiinitely classify as external entities in my book...)

should we start a thread just dealing with that??? internal / external entities?

once again, my advice is to check out Harold Garfinkel and what he coined as "breaching experiments". which brings us to this "conclusion":
first one has to BELIEVE that there are external entities in order to contact them. once contact is established, the realization that those are in actuality INTERNAL entities might arise... once that is accepted as fact, the lines may very well become even more blurry.... and these internal "consciousness-compartments" which one can communicate with might after all be completely seperate from ego and have their own agendas and isolated existence from the "host".
I have heard that the golden dawn used this model to teach students. whenever the disciple enters a new stage of realization, the rules are changed in order for her/him to grow and learn faster and further.

and yes varis, i also have enjoyed this thread quite a bit, and still do, so thnx for putting it up. if anyone seconds my suggestion, I will start a new thread to continue whatever has spawned here, so yours can die a lonely but peaceful death. STILL think you need to change your name to VALIS.....

Shanghai Quasar

10:52 / 27.08.03

You cannot destroy the monster that you have created, Varis. There is no escape from the UFO thread.

Anyway, yes. If h3r wanted to start a thread on internal / external entities, that would be a good thing.

19:06 / 27.08.03

This may be a little on the fuzzy, new age side for you but you could log on to Whitley Stieber's website (http://www.unknowncountry.com/) and in the subscribers' section there's a series of meditation lectures he gives that are intended to do just that. I haven't done it so I can't say if it works or not.

11:04 / 05.09.03

You only have to follow the work of Kenneth Grant and Alesteir Crowley, and by applying AOS sigil work - you may get there. All servitors and thought forms are alien since they defy physical shells. Drugs are dangerous - toxic burnout, not nice!!!! Tis a lot cheaper than searching for over-priced DMT!!!!!! Try lucid-dreamworkings as well - unless you want to be at a shit hot Liminal Zone screaming "TALA MATRA" hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

18:34 / 24.02.04

you could always try shrooms if you're having trouble getting hold of dmt. i had some the other weekend and had my brain scanned by (at least what i perceived as being) some kind of alien technology. strassman calls shrooms orally active dmt anyway. nature is the best dealer around. i only just skimmed through this thread so forgive me if this has been already covered.

19:41 / 24.02.04

This is a spectacularly amusing thread. Read it from the beginning if you don't believe me.

Aliens? Go and sit on Cley Hill in Warminster. It's the home of ley lines, UFO's, crop circles and all things spooky so you're bound to see one sooner or later.

00:23 / 25.02.04

Come on, drugs are dangerous, but Crowley's rituals aren't ? He left this trail of destruction right across Europe, back in the day. You know, turmoil, insanity, horror and death, seemed to follow him round like his faithful old pets - are you totally sure he's the healthy option ?

Anyway, contact. As I understand it, isn't it more like waiting for a bus than calling a taxi ? You just get yourself onto the right kind of route, and then hope for the best ? Didn't Grant Morrison say something similar ? That you don't look for the aliens, they come looking for you ?

00:38 / 25.02.04

anyone read 'flatland'? certainly seems to me to provide some sort of mathematical validation for the existence of aliens/higher entities etc.

Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown

17:15 / 25.02.04

Just as a bemusing sidenote to the idea of abducting aliens, there's a short animation that plays on Space (the Canadian version of "Sci-Fi") once and a while. It's an alien at a bar, talking about how Earthmen made him (her? Androngyonous looking little bugger) strip, and then probed him/her/it, and then took pictures. And then they stole its soul and put it on something called "telly-vizon".

An experiment in non-Crowley, non-drug induced alien vistations may simply be in the creation of the proper ritual to make contact. If you get into a sufficient trance state with the proper sort of "guidance", you should be able to make contact. I mean, people speak with their "spirit guides" and other-dimensional beings/friends without the aid of drugs or the like.

18:31 / 25.02.04

Having been abducted/contacted by interdimensional beings,I just wanted to say be careful what you wish for.That said good luck,and make sure you have a strong mind in order to deal with sub-ethreal trip-tonic reality.Seeing things coming from angles that do not exist in this reality can be a bit much at first.It made my good friend "crazy" for a couple of months.I myself was very scared for a while after and retained an unusual amount of paranoia afterwards.By that I mean more than the usual levels of paranoia that I already have.

18:44 / 25.02.04

re: drug or non-drug contact

dmt & other related compounds are endogenous chemicals anyway. so maybe a ritual/ceremonial approach is ultimately only helping to release these chemicals in the brain anyway. hence there may ultimately be no 'non-drug' encounters. although a ritualistic approach may help prepare the practioner's mind to be more able to deal with said encounters. i would be combining drug use in a ritualistic context to up the odds though. why limit yourself to any one method?

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